Mike Currie, MLA for Georgetown-St. Peters, points out, to many people’s surprise, that Wood Islands is not in Kings County. The port community, which is home to Northumberland Ferries, is in Queens County. Currie charged Thursday the Olympic torch relay is snubbing Kings County on the Island tour. Guardian photo by Wayne Thibodeau
Kings County residents are extremely disappointed that they have been left out of this weekend’s Olympic torch relay, says Mike Currie.
The Kings County MLA is calling on the P.E.I. government to consider changing the route so that at least some of the eastern county is able to take part in the torch relay in their own region.
The torch relay comes to the province via Northumberland Ferries at Wood Islands, but that is in Queens County.
Wood Islands is about eight kilometres from the Kings County border.
“I see that Kings County and rural Prince Edward Island has been left out again by your government,” Currie said during question period.
“I’m just wondering why you wouldn’t have went through Murray Harbour, where Brad Richards comes from, Murray River, where Brandon Gormley comes from, through Montague where the member built a new wellness centre and on into Charlottetown.
“Why couldn’t you capture some of Kings County? Why did you pick the route you did?”
But Kings County is not the only region of the province being snubbed for the Vancouver 2010 torch run.
It’s also not going into West Prince.
The furthest west the torch is going is Lennox Island, which is still in the East Prince region.
The Olympic torch arrives in P.E.I. on Saturday.
British Columbia Premier Gordon Campbell will be on the Island with the torch.
A celebration of the torch’s arrival is planned for the Charlottetown waterfront Saturday evening.
Cultural Affairs Minister Carolyn Bertram chastised Currie’s criticism of the torch relay and called on the Conservative MLA to get on board with the celebrations.
“Obviously, if you look at the map of Canada it can’t go through every region of every province,” said Bertram.
“Get on board folks. This is a great event for our province. Get excited. Get involved.”
Bertram said the torch is travelling through rural P.E.I. There will be three planned stops in Charlottetown, Summerside and Cavendish.
“It comes off the boat in Wood Islands,” she said.
“I have the list of communities — Summerside, Wellington, Abrams Village, Lennox Island, Kensington, Margate, Clinton, New London, Stanley Bridge, Cavendish, North Rustico, Rusticoville, New Glasgow, Hunter River, Winsloe, Cornwall, Charlottetown, Stratford, Pownal, Cherry Valley, Vernon Bridge, Belfast, Wood Islands, Bedeque, Kinkora, Borden.”
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Jeff Docherty from Montague, PEI writes: Thank you, Mr. Currie for standing up for Kings County on this topic.
It is an absolute shame that the committee in charge did not see fit to bring the Torch Relay through parts of Kings County, such as those Mr. Currie has mentioned in the above story.
Montague, for example, is Kings County's largest town. You saw no point in having it pass through the County's largest town?
I have absolutely no objection whatsoever to the communities that will get to host the torch relay..in fact I am happy for them..but do you not think that if small communities such as Margate, Clinton, and Stanley Bridge deserve to have a visit from the torch (and they DO!) should places like Murray River, Murray Harbour, and Montague not deserve such a privilege, as well?
Ms. Bertram says that the torch can't go through every region in every province, however, Prince Edward Island is not like every other province. We are a very small province, and it would have been no more difficult for the torch relay to have been routed down through Murray River, Murray Harbour, through to Montague, out to Poole's Corner and into Charlottetown. This would have afforded many more Islanders the opportunity to see the Olympic Torch. Sadly, you have snubbed Kings County altogether and you have concentrated on your beloved Charlottetown.
Another story in today's Guardian states Olympic flame will be carried for 90 minutes through Charlottetown . Well, isn't that nice! Charlottetown gets the torch for 90 minutes..while Kings County, as a whole, doesn't get the torch for 1 second!
Ms. Bertram, I am sorry to say it but your closed minded view on the Torch Relay route has deprived the residents of Kings County from being a part of this once-in-a-lifetime event.
The slogan for Prince Edward Island is Come Play on MY Island...well, I guess YOUR Island does NOT include Kings County! Charlottetown is the center of your universe and Kings County gets the cold shoulder, as usual.
Mr. Currie, you have gained my respect for the way you have stood up for the residents of Kings County in this issue. I thank you and I only wish you had more time to try to get them to change the route. It appears their route is set in stone as cold as their hearts.
Enjoy the torch, Charlottetown..we won't see it down east.
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Give me a break from PEI writes: This is ridiculous!! Complaining the torch didn't go to Kings county!! Do you think the people in every community in Canada should expect the torch to go there??
What about Southern Nova Scotia? And Western New Brunswick, not to mention different remote regions in Newfoundland!
Mike Currie, you are an embarrassment to small communities complaining about something like this!
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get over it Klohn from Charlottetown, PEI writes: Wow, islanders crab about anything! Get over it! Go to one of the other three places to see a bloody torch. I'm travelling to see it, why can't you?
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sTRAWMAN from PEI writes: There is the appearance of a disproportianate number of stops in certain regions but I guess they have to draw the line somewheres.
I love the idea of using the half a million dollars towards the development of Island athletes. I believe it would send a great message to the rest of Canada showing we really care about our youth.
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How about from PE writes: How about we have the route go through every street and road on PEI so nobody feels left out?
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Geography 521 from pei writes: I think it would be hard for Robbie to understand what Mike is showing us in the Picture here..could someone please give Robbie a little Geography lesson and explain to him that PEI doesn't end at the Hillsboro Bridge.
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RLS from PEI writes: Jeez Mike, stop your pathetic whining and do your job for once, bring forward some real issues for a change instead of more lame trivial complaints!!!! What a poor excuse for an opposition, get with it or get out, this kind of work is not worth a penny of our taxpayer dollars.
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JL from ''rural'' PEI writes: @ Mike Currie
Only politicians give any credence to the silly artificial lines you have drawn all over our landscape.
I don't give a cr@p about:
* county lines
* fire district boundary lines
* municipal boundary lines
and especially
* political riding boundary lines
The only line I care about is the SHORE LINE - the one that defines us as an island.
You sir, are a disgrace to eastern PEI by complaining about something so trite and trivial. Do you honestly believe that any islander gives a HOOT about lines defined by a British Army surveyor in the 1700's?
The only 2 things that are still relevant about Samuel Holland's brief tenure on PEI are 1. the community college named after him, and 2. the idiots on this island who work themselves into a frenzy because of perceived slights to their little postage stamp of geography that he measured THREE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
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Wayne MacKinnon from Marshfield, P.E.I. writes: Hey Mike, thats is an old government trick from the Third World, it is designed to make people fearful.
If the people in Kings County want their roads paved and any new development, or their children to be treated equitably,they must vote you and Bagnall out to get on the gravy train.
By the way Mike, I think the route you designed is better and gives everyone an equal opportunity to participate in this historic event.
In a place like P.E.I., this type of treatment has a tremendous effect on the way people vote here.
In Jamaica, they pay the gov't supporters to trim the grass on both sides of the road near their tin shacks at Christmas time so they have some money to spend.
And no I do not hate Liberals or Conservatives or anyone anywhere, I would just like to live in a Province with equal opportunities for all its citizens.
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Are you Serious? from PEI writes: Really Mike? Really?
Come on.
You can't honestly expect the torch to touch every square inch of ground across this country, can you?
There are much bigger venues then Murray Harbour PEI being missed by a stick on fire.
So Souris and Montague residents drive for 5 minutes to take a look-see. And the rest tune into Compass and get a warmer closer look.
Is it really bothering you that much?
Come on now. Some people would complain about being hung with a new rope.
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first last from NS writes: As I understand it it's the olympic committee that sets the route, local governments have absolutely no say.
Perhaps if the Guardian would care to add some facts to this story about who chooses the route and how?
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Get involved! from city, PE writes: I think the MLA Campbell should have got involved. At least Currie is sticking up for the east. Kudos to Mike.
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Charles from PEI writes: Please people, are there not more important things to cry about. There are thousands of communities across the country that will not have the opportunity to participate in this great event. Please look at the big picture, and quit looking for a reason to condemn everything that is done by this government. AS much as they do wrong, there are certain things that they have either no control over, or actual might have made a sound decision.
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bruce from pei writes: I live in Rocky Point and the torch is not going down my way . I do hope that the people who made this route will consider making a special trip out my way too. Mike it would be nice to see you run with the torch for any distance say 50 feet or so seeing that you did that lenght in the spring to have your talk with Robby at the legislature last spring
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Let's Be Real from pei writes: We often lose sight of the fact that PEI is a very small province. Hence, the concept of distances is lost. I think there is some guideline to the effect that the torch will pass within 100km (?) of each community in the country. It looks to me like it will do that and more in PEI.
Is the torch going to pass through every single county and district in Ontario, Nova Scotia, B.C., etc? If it did, it would never make it to Vancouver in time for this set of games.
Let's be real. Just because it won't be passing through K.C., which is a small county by comparison with others across Canada, doesn't mean it is being overlooked.
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Mark from PE writes: I can understand Curries disappointment of feeling left out, but this issue should have been addressed several months ago.
The touch relay course was planned long ago. The torchbearers chosen to be part of the relay have been notified at least 6 weeks ago.
Mike Currie could not expect that the course could be changed with a couple of days notice.
The Olympic Games are a major international event of summer and winter sports, in which thousands of athletes compete. This should not be about politics.
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Of Course from Kings County writes: Would you really expect anything different from this government. If the torch could have just came into Peakes Quay than it would have suited Ghiz even more, then he could have paraded it down every street in Charlottetown. When will Ghiz realize that there is life outside the city limits.
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To Give me a Break from pei writes: Mike Currie is the best MLA Cardigan has seen! Keep up the good work Mike-this just ads more fuel to the fire with Kings County Vs Charlottetown!
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DL from PE writes: Humm....it seems Mr Currie does not think any part of rural PEI is in Queen's county....
Mr Currie, since every sentence you say ends in ...rural PEI , how about you define what you mean by the term since we seem to have a different opinion as to what it is.
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What a whiner you are from PEI writes: Mike Currie quit your complaining about EVERYTHING!!! Are you only happy when your name is in the news whining and moaning about every thing possible.
Maybe you can put a lawnchair on your front lawn and the torch can personally pass your house.
Do something constructive for ONCE. Complain to Stephen Harper how any child or adult in this rich country of ours can go hungry at night or cold in the winter. Then people may listen to your constant complaints. Otherwise please stifle it for at least a day.
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Hold On a Minute ! SG from PEI writes: Personally, I beleive Minister Mike Currie has a Very Valid Point! And I'm from Queens County!
This List of Communties on the route clearly make it very plain that Kings County was Ignored!
S'Side N Kensington areas, Western PEI, Cavendish, Rustico, Hunter River, New Glasgow, Stanley Bridge, Ch'town, Stratford, Cornwall, Cherry Valley, Vernon Bridge, Belfast, Wood Islands, Bedeque, Kinkora, Borden!
YES KINGS COUNTY was Completely Left Out on the Route!! Why? I believe that is a question that should be answered! This is an event that will only happen once in a VERY LONG TIME!
I also think Minister Bertram's comments to Minister Currie were extremely Flippant at Best! get on board with the celebrations.
How are you supposed to Get On Board when your Completely By Passed?
When Abrams Village, Cherry Valley and Stanley Bridge is on the Route why wouldn't Montague be included? Poor Planning in my view!
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Den from PEI writes: Maybe Rob MacEachern had some pull with the Olympic Committee.
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Kathleen from PEI writes: Would you all stop complaining about the PEI Government and how they're ignoring areas for the torch run.
It isn't their choice! The Vancouver Organizing Committee chose the torch route. As was already stated, the mandate was for the torch to be a 1 hour drive away from 99% of the population of the *entire* country. That is a huge thing to ask, and the route is already the longest in history I believe.
On the other hand, we should be happy the torch is coming at all since some people think PEI shouldn't participate in the Olympics at all which would mean no torch either.
Maybe this province would be better off as a county of another province.
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Kings County Resident from Morell, PEI writes: Mr. Currie is sticking up for the people and communities who elected him to do so, he has every right as a representative of Kings County to ask the question Why were we not included perhaps it is because we are not in Ms. Bertrum's riding or because we are east of Charlottetown.
Can anyone answer why we were left out? In a logical non judgemental answer.
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D from PE writes: Well if thats the case then you have to INCLUDE Tyne Valley, OLeary, Tignish and Alberton. Funny how when you Charlottetown people talk about rural PEI you forget there is 25000 people West of Summerside!!
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The Observer from Stratford, PE writes: I appreciate that Mr. Currie is standing up for his constituents but this is the wrong time. The torch routes were published months ago. Why didn't he challenge them then? Now is too late and looks more like grandstanding than genuine concern.
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what difference from montague, pei writes: m y grandmother a senior citizen drove to wood islands to see the tourch come of the boat and have pictures of the premier ghiz running with it get with it the goverment cant look out for us we got to do things for our selves if we think they are important grand mother said i couldnt of cared less if i saw it and i am 11 but i think granny thought it was cool she is 70 she loves wood islands lived not far from there as a child she also is liberal lol
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peibossman from PEI writes: PEI has made up of 3 counties, if you leave one of them out, it is not PEI in totality...bertram doesn't give a hoot about kings county or she would have accomodated the torch being here...it's sad to hear bertram make those comments, it shows how arrogant and out of touch she is... pride goeth before a fall ...
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Rob from PEI writes: About two weeks ago, Federal Liberal Critic for Amateur Sport and Vancouver Olympics Joyce Murray complained that the torch was not going through enough Liberal ridings. This leads me to the following conclusion:
1. Politicians of all colours like to complain for the sake of complaining.
2. Politicians of both levels of government like to complain for the sake of complaining.
3. Opposition politicians of both levels of government (Blue and Red) are totally clueless to the fact that the torch route is planned by the Vancouver Olympic Planning Committee
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Did you know... from Montague, PE writes: $500,000 to bring the torch to our small province at the tax payers expense.
Does it matter WHERE on the Island it ventures? No.
Does it seem like an unreasonable amount? Heck yes!
I wish Ministers would flap their gums about real issues hurting their constituents, instead of a flame on a stick!
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David from PEI writes: Being a member of opposition and an MLA from kings county I commend Currie for doing his job... It's good to see that they don't have to become ignorant in the legislature like the previous opposition
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Grow up from PE writes: Grow up. At least the torch is coming to PEI. Wanting the route changed 1 day before the relay begins here is ridiculous. A lot of planning was done many weeks in advance. If you wanted something to change it should have been brought up earlier.
As a torchbearer, I am grateful to have the oppurtunity. I am from Kings County and I have to travel to Queens County to take part. It's not a big deal.
Why don't we try being happy for what is happening instead of finding something to complain about?
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Oh Dear from Charlottetown, PEI writes: It's kind of funny to read all the comments blaming Bertram and Ghiz for the torch not going to K.C., as if they have any say in it. Some people would blame Ghiz if there were too much rain.
Ghiz and Bertram have nothing to do with the route of the Torch. It is all up to the Vancouver 2010 Olympics planning committee.
It's not like Bertram and Ghiz secretly plotted to leave K.C. out because they have a personal agenda.
People need to stop taking this so personally.
And the 500 000$ wasn't just so we could have the torch here, it was so we could show some patriotism. It was also so we could support both Island AND Canadian athletes and get some representation at the Olympics.
Stop complaining about something so trivial as a route that was planned months ago.
If Currie really cared, he would have brought it up when the route was first made public. He is just doing this for a show.
And for the record, I am neither Liberal nor Conservative.
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Michael Nesbitt from Miscouche, PE writes: Chalk up a point for Mike Currie, for getting maximum exposure without having to actually accomplish anything.
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nitpicker from Charlottetown, PEI writes: 'PEI has made up of 3 counties, if you leave one of them out, it is not PEI in totality'
So the county lines define full PEI coverage, huh? Theoretically, the flame could hit all three counties, but still miss half of the towns/communities it will be visiting.
But according to the above logic, that would be ok. Kings county residents are being deprived of nothing. The route is well posted, and Montague and co. have but a short drive to see it if they wish.
Some of these posts sound like they have been written by an 8 year old who thinks their big sister got more for Christmas than they did.
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Well I Dunno But J A from PEI writes: The Torch is going through 26 areas across PEI! Even if the Run had to be an hour's drive away from 99% of the population of the entire* country, how hard would it have been to incorporate even one area in King's County??
And who among all our Politicians (wouldn't have expected) that totally disregarding one County on PEI would result in a large amount of Disapproval and Criticism?
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bob d from summerside, pei writes: this has got to be one of the dumbest things to complain about,currie. let's see..the house opened up a few days ago and this is the best arguement u got??the p.c's are getting worse every month
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Allan MacDonald from Selkirk, ontario writes: are you for real you bring the torch to PEI and snub any part is nothing but a total disgrace. Me being and islander from away would say if not all then stuff it. All islanders are the same if not snuff the flame. After all we are Canada too,
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Allan MacDonald from Selkirk, ontario writes: are you for real you bring the torch to PEI and snub any part is nothing but a total disgrace. Me being and islander from away would say if not all then stuff it. All islanders are the same if not snuff the flame. After all we are Canada too,
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what a joke from PEI writes: Jeff Docherty, just because of your comment I will say that I'm glad that you wont get to see the torch. This is typical PEI to complain about something like this. Can you not drive half an hour to see it? beats the pants off driving three hours in some provinces like Quebec and Ontario if you ask me. But that's PEI for you, everyone! If everyone came to town to see it, or if by some miracle your MLA got you your precious torch, people would be complaining that it was too bright or it was a fire hazard or something. Why can't Islanders grow up for once...
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John Wood from Charlottetown, PEI writes: Montague has a pop. of 3,000 residents and takes in most of King's Co. alot more people than Caendish has! King's Co. definetly was snubbed for Sure bye the Olympic Torch relay... SHAME on them...
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