Tense meeting on Crane's status

John Getson

- January 9, 2013 at 14:54:19

hmmm... some party members were saying that in this current arrangement, ...their "party will have no control or moderation over her"... funny, I thought that it was supposed to be the voters who had the control over the elected officials... Nothing against Mrs Crane... my complaint is with the 'party', regardless of which party you point to... they all seem to have forgot exactly who should be receiving the greatest 'net benefit'. Is it that they have bought into their own 'disconnected' point of view - the one that takes the opinion that "it is too complicated to wrap our heads around" or are there even more nefarious things at work? Maybe it is high time there there were more active participation in Social Activism on PEI !

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Binn's boys-destroyed the party

- January 9, 2013 at 05:33:01

They just could not stop; the back room boys, and as Murray Murphy stated in an interview it was more like a conference room of PC trying to oust their leader in the most unethical, sleazy way. Keep destroying the party. Murphy resigned and that was a relief but then some PC fools gave him another position in the party- geee...shows what the PC party stands for which would be sickening to any civilized human being. Of course, such a horrific act to Ms. Crane would need some backstabbing, low life leaders...Lee, Murphy showed their distain for female rights, democracy..No, these boys could NEVER have a female as a leader, we all know what they do with a honest female leader- DESTROY her because she refused to be a puppet for a bunch of corrupt, out of control, oppressive boys who abuse power, have over inflated egos that is basically laughable, corrupt with pnps and all that goes on that is kept oh so secretative...sick individuals. They have shown severe bullying behaviors that destroyed their leader--this is worrisome and frightening. Ms. Crane was voted to be the leader in a democratic manner. The Doughboys igored democracy, so the PCs do NOT like and do NOT follow democratic rules; They have BULLIED a female to extremes- Abused their power, and the list is endless. But, no female will have any rights with these bullies - they need to NEVER be in any position of power, their positions need to be put into question -what else are they doing? I would neverr vote for the tory party again!!!!! NOT with these BULLIES able to control, harm, abuse a female, abuse their own leader in such a very ugly manner..unprofessional, unethical, violating rights, abuses abuses abuses If they do this to their leader, continue to show their party backstabbing, what would they do to others. Well, for those who have those pnp on paper only, guessing corrupt and keep going after their self serving, self centered, goals I wonder who the leak was?? I am guessing it was the same leak who gave bogus report to reporter to discredit Ms. Crane when this first happened.

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SG

- January 8, 2013 at 16:19:24

Well I can See on PEI the RED and the BLUE are still the only two colors that are available for Political Parties! WHEN are ISLANDERS EVER GOING TO SEE THE LIGHT?? Is it any wonder the Rest of Canada see Islanders as they do! Yes Please Keep Doing the Same Thing Each and Every Election and then Keep Expecting Different Results!!! An Exercise of Sheer Futility on REPLAY Every Election! Make Sure You Vote in another Majority next Election Also! It's working so Well Now that NOT ONE ISLANDER has had a VOICE or a Political Representative for the Past Three Years!

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don

- January 8, 2013 at 13:10:31

Well I have voted for both the PC’s and LIB but now I’ll not be voting for either as I vote for the person but with Blake Doyle or lee involved they are out to kill the party I wonder why? Then “Blake said that Monday's meeting will be the one and only time that members will be asked for input and ideas into the leadership status issue.” Why is that they are paid members and they have no right to ask questions so I guess blake has the idea you pay my wages but shut up as you have no right to ask anything I’ll tell you what you can and cannot do. That to me is a hell of a party. They need to dump these fools and get new backroom boys. But I can tell you this the new leader will be a male not female as these guys are male chauvinist’s they put out pat and now Olive two great leaders but they were doomed from the start as they were not good little slaves to the want to be big boys. But what gets me is the add said "Everyone Welcome To Attend." Then they put out the reporters well to me that is false advertising so much for brains. Go NDP...

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PARTIES

- January 8, 2013 at 11:08:01

Parties are not needed to have a workable Government. Partiers look after party members, plain and simple and could care less about non party people, and that goes for ALL political parties. What we need is a Government that looks after all people. The only way to accomplish this is to get rid of the party system. This can be done easily by having all MLAs not belonging to a party. Each individual would be voted in by his area, Each MLA would have a say in the Government, not what the party leader directs them . All elected MLAs would then decide who they want to be Premier. if the person they select does not perform as expected then the MLAs could remove them as Premier and vote in another individual. There you have it, responsible Government for the people by the people and not by the party for the party members.

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  Come from away

  - January 9, 2013 at 20:48:14

  Hhmm.....That idea is beginning to sound very appealing.

SG

- January 8, 2013 at 11:02:36

Why doesn't Olive Crane step down while the P.C's still have a Party. Why is she hanging on until an interim Leader is appointed? If the P.C.'s can't get their Party organized very soon there won't be any need for them to run in the next Election. If they don't have a Party Leader that will ultimately Blow Islanders' away they definitely won't be getting anywhere in the next Election. If Olive was truly interested in doing the Best for her Party she would have stepped down long ago! The P.C.'s should also consider replacing Doyle! The N.D.P.'s looks like Islanders' Best Choice presently. If there was an Election tomorrow they'd get my Vote!

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Chucker

- January 8, 2013 at 10:10:34

The politics of distraction! The media is trying to make the Tory soap opera look like ' the' political story of the age. Neat, eh???? The most corrupt, arrogant and scamming government ever in this province- courtesy of the Ghiz funders-- and we are all supposed to focus on the problems of the poor ole Tories. Boo hoo hooo hoo!!!!!!!! I am NDP now so I do not care. It is time to get on with things. The Ghiz government is running every possible sort of scam and the media is not touching any of it. The opposition parties just took a kick at the Maritime Electric ' deal ' report and the media just leaves it all sitting there. Like a manure pile we are pretending not to be there. C' mon. The media should be doing an intense follow up on that electricty paper. What is the government saying about the criticisms of the commision report? Why is the media not asking? Has anybody in the media even read the report? Sure it is more work than hanging out side of a political party meeting but it is central to the cost of living and costs of doing business in the province. Emough gossip. Let us some analysis of what the gvoernment is actually doing. As for the PCs--- boo hoo hooo!!!!!

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Islandwoman

- January 8, 2013 at 09:43:03

He said, she said from anonymous sources who may or may not have made the whole thing up. Or maybe the guardian (or should I say ghizette) made it all up...I see no one would take credit for the story. Why doesn't the crack team of investigative reporters let us in on what the government in power is doing and why rich liberals are being given millions of our taxpayer dollars at the same time services are being cut and taxes raised? Or how about an update on one of the many investigations (RCMP, Privacy Commissioner, etc) into the ghiz libs supposedly ongoing for the last few years...you know, things that actually concern islanders. Your continued attacks on Olive Crane are ridiculous.

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  Ghizette . . . that's a hoot.

  - January 8, 2013 at 10:04:07

  Ghizette . . . . good one! There's not much doubt about media bias (EG: planb support), but then again, after these shenanigans it's like shooting fish in a barrel. This is not the first time in history that a corrupt government has been buoyed by an inexplicably inept opposition. Nor will it be the last. However, history also has moments where the common people seem to find the courage to act outside self-interest and pull down the liars and cheats that call themselves leaders. Let's hope that's the case with this government . . . and the Ghizette!

Garth Staples

- January 8, 2013 at 09:37:59

So which representative from the media was kicked out of the meeting? I attended a very productive and largely attended meeting . The processes to be followed are clear and the Executive and membership will follow the constitution of the PC Party. The Guardian will have to wait for the processes to unfold as they will just as surely as the sun will rise.

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Resident

- January 8, 2013 at 08:42:29

Sounds like a normal working meeting with productive discussions. I don't think anyone expected it to be Christmas dinner with smiles and wishes? Nothing sensational, and no conspiracy. Any party meeting would be held in a similar fashion, behind closed doors.

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Just Watching

- January 8, 2013 at 08:36:53

"who is the Leader of the Opposition speaking for, asked the Guardian's insider." Unless everyone at the meeting asked this question, I think the anonymous one has just been outed. Note to self... do not give statements to the Guardian if you want to remain anonymous.

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Quiet Observer

- January 8, 2013 at 08:26:08

Certain people, and I believe for a large part also the media, are trying to distort things and further discredit Olive Crane. It is important that it be understood that there needs to be an Opposition Leader from within the sitting MLAs in the House. If the interim Party Leader, once appointed, is not a sitting MLA in the House, they cannot be Opposition Leader because they are not a sitting MLA. The role of Opposition is to oppose the gorverning party in the workings of the House, so therefore must be a sitting MLAsr. If the Interim Party Leader is a sitting member, then Olive will (as she has already stated) step aside for the Interim Party Leader to become Opposition Leader as well. If the Interim Party Leader is not s sitting member, there still needs to be an Opposition Leader from among the sitting members. There is nothing wrong going on here, just a lot of ,isrepresentation of the situation by certain people who dislike Olive and some members of the media who are choosing not to present the situation accurately so as to try to create controversy.

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Anything But A Con

- January 8, 2013 at 08:17:29

does anyone Really expect Any of the pc party to be Open to the public they are manipulating? hahaha ..

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hmatt

- January 8, 2013 at 08:04:45

I am starting to think, even though he is new to the job, Blake Doyle, should find another line of work, and take Olive with him

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Jake Doyle

- January 8, 2013 at 08:02:11

"A member of the party attending the meeting later contacted The Guardian to say what happened, but asked to remain anonymous" Cowardice at it's finest. This certainly is an open and transparent Party! Lieberals are the worst ever, PC are in turmoil fighting amongst themselves and the NDP chose a leader that has more skeletons in his closet than Mr. Ghiz himself. HHHEEELLLPPP.

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  Show Some

  - January 8, 2013 at 10:48:14

  Instead of making baseless claims why not show some guts and tell us all what those skeletons are.

Relentless, eh?

- January 8, 2013 at 07:33:34

The PNP thugs are, and will be, relentless.

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Party Time

- January 8, 2013 at 06:38:44

Apparently the Captain of the Titanic went down with his ship.

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Adolphus

- January 8, 2013 at 06:25:43

Amazing! 35+ comments so far(6 a.m.) on a serious traffic accident, and zero comments on a chance to offer a reasonable government next term of office. I'm sure that the rotten Liberals (the whole barrel) are saying "Happy New Year" each time the Conservative Party shoots itself in the foot. Call it a day, Tories. Start with a clean slate and offer solutions to our environmental and financial disasters, or help the NDP to do so.

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Fred Affleck

- January 8, 2013 at 04:51:24

The NDP looking better and better

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David

- January 8, 2013 at 01:51:19

So much for an open party. Certainly looks like Crane is trying to continue to control how things are done even though she has publicly resigned. This is the party that thought just over a year ago they could run the province and year later it is obvious they can't even run their own party. The behavior of these people seem to show more like they want everything behind clsoed doors and only select few "THE BACKROOM" will decide everything.

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concernedislander

- January 8, 2013 at 00:59:12

Well its ah great story which in turn leaves us with an unstable conservative calvary lol ah NDP with out much off ah foundation and ah liberal party who is strugling too try bring the island out off debt but in the same measure putting it on ah crash course where will it be in 5 years with all the changes and the theft from the ordinary citizens by both federal and provincal government its certainly not ah great outlook.

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