PNP list reveals problems with program

Teresa Wright
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Unlocking the secrets behind the PNP

The list of PNP beneficiaries released by the province Tuesday shows numerous P.E.I. business owners received PNP funds for multiple companies despite rules that prohibited this.

It also reveals numerous non-profit organizations benefitted from the program even though non-profits were not eligible, according to program rules.

But Innovation Minister Allen Roach would not answer questions about these issues when interviewed by The Guardian Wednesday.

CLICK HERE TO READ THE PNP LIST AND FOR BACKGROUNDER ON THE PNP

 

He maintained he would be breaching privacy by speaking about the way his department officials and the directors of Island Investment Development Inc. handled this program.

“(Justice Wayne Cheverie) ruled that what I was allowed to do, or the government of Prince Edward Island and this department, was release the names of the corporations that had received PNP and were part of the program and that’s exactly what I’ve done,” Roach said in an interview.

“I’m not going to go any further than that because then I would be in breach of privacy.”

On Tuesday, the province released the full list of companies that received immigrant investments through the Provincial Nominee Program. It was a program that matched immigrant investees to Island companies, aimed at boosting immigration to the province.

But the program has been plagued by controversy for the past four years after the federal government shut P.E.I.’s program down when it learned the immigrants were not taking an active role in the companies in which they made investments.

The list of companies that benefitted from PNP money is extensive. It accounts for over a quarter of all Island companies.

But it also reveals many of the problems identified by the auditor general in his 2009 investigation into this program.

The AG found some cases where these senior bureaucrats directed approval for businesses that didn't qualify and approved some companies to get more investment units than they were eligible for.

The PNP company list sheds more light on this. It shows, for example, eight companies in which Charlottetown businessman Kevin Murphy is listed as a director on the P.E.I. corporate registry. PNP rules stated companies whose primary shareholders received units for a business would not be eligible for more money through other companies.

“I’m not going to go any further than that because then I would be in breach of privacy,” Innovation Minister Allen Roach

But the list shows this was a seemingly regular occurrence. Dozens of other business owners also received PNP investments for multiple companies. One major beneficiary from multiple companies, according to the list, was Stephen McKnight – a Summerside lawyer who also worked with companies applying to the PNP with their legal documentation. Eleven companies of which he is a shareholder received PNP money.

Other noteworthy names on the list are those of non-profit organizations, which were ineligible for the program.

But these non-profits created corporate entities in order to fit program criteria. One of these was the Confederation Centre of the Arts, which created two corporations called Centreworks and Centretours that both received funds.

Other non-profits include the Civic Centre, which created Charlottetown Civic Centre Developments Inc. and Tourism Charlottetown, which created two corporations that both received PNP funds – TCI Major Events and TCI Facilities.

Roach again would not answer questions about these issues.

He would only say the PNP beneficiary list shows many Island businesses received capital at a time they needed it most.

“Island businesses and the Island economy have benefitted greatly from this,” Roach said.

“When you look at the fact that we have that many companies in P.E.I. that have participated in a great program, I find it extremely unfortunate that (Opposition Leader) Olive Crane wants to make our Island businesses feel ashamed for participating in a program that was designed to help Island businesses and help the Island economy.”

Crane has been calling for a public inquiry into the PNP to find out why decisions were made that saw program rules broken or ignored.

Premier Robert Ghiz has said he will not call for a public inquiry into this program.

 

 

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Organizations: Island Investment Development, Confederation Centre, Civic Centre Charlottetown Civic Centre Developments

Geographic location: Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, Summerside

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  • Jean Paul Poirier
    November 09, 2012 - 05:33

    Any room left in Dorchester ?

  • AMAZED
    November 08, 2012 - 20:45

    This just makes my stomach churn, Binn's government screwed 1000 people out of 10 weeks work to qualify for EI and at the same time gave party faithful hundreds of millions of dollars just because.It is know wonder(because we KNOW) why he left PEI,and why his cohorts are public shy.I am ashamed to be an Islander.Am I the only one who did not get a $50,000. hand shake or is it that there was none left over because too many received Millions?Disgusting greedy toads.

  • The Charlottetown Bank Robbery Insane Gang
    November 08, 2012 - 18:29

    Problems? with PEI and money? No way!!! Really? OMG? Maybe we should do nothing about it and hope it goes away? Maybe some hypnotisim will cure PEI, that and DR Ha Ha books, go team.

  • Big joe
    November 08, 2012 - 17:35

    Premier can you have your senior people explain this mismanagement namely, Richard brown,Brooke macmiiion,Melissa maceachern,and other appointees. You are giving the civil servants a bad name. Maybe they all should be interviewed by the public accounts committee or the rcmp This will not happen as you hide everything. Robert time to go as no vote from this liberal.

  • MFH
    November 08, 2012 - 17:21

    Montreal has gotten a lot of media attention lately because of corruption. This place is just as bad. And for those of you that ask if the Law Society will investigate it members. I say "Good Luck " with that idea. The Law Society is nothing more than a union for lawyers and will protect them at all cost.

  • PROUD ISLANDER???
    November 08, 2012 - 17:08

    Hey, the Island way, grab Fed money any way you can. And as for the good, hard working, honest businesses that received units, where are the immigrants that were supposed to be involved with your businesses?

  • MFH
    November 08, 2012 - 17:07

    Montreal has gotten a lot of media attention lately because of corruption. This place is just as bad. And for those of you that ask if the Law Society will investigate it members. I say "Good Luck " with that idea. The Law Society is nothing more than a union for lawyers and will protect them at all cost.

  • Companies that do not exist
    November 08, 2012 - 16:33

    I found a company that does not even exist. One name on the entire company who I could not find. But when I put the addressof this person and the company into the search engine, a lawyer's name comes up, one who plays a role in the law society as well. Isn't anyone going to investigate companies that received money which never d existed except on paper only? Why are these people, regardless of profession, not held accountable??

  • not impressed
    November 08, 2012 - 14:25

    It is a shame for all islanders that people would purposfully committ a crime, steal from immagrants and not be held accountable. Who cares that it benifitted business at THIER worst time and was good for PEI- how is stealing, lying good for PEI Robert Ghiz can try to cover up all he wants- FEDERAL gov is on this now and they don;t give a rats ass about anything but getting to the bottom of the matter and their like pittbulls and won't let go........and i think it is in the best interest of the immagrants who where scammed and for those of us on PEI who are not dishonest - to see those who are brough to accountability. Go Olive Crane- shake the tree and lets see what falls out

  • Islander
    November 08, 2012 - 13:45

    Sylvia, it seems that once you saw there were Conservatives on the list you changed your tune somewhat. Thats how it comes off in our opinion. We would like to see amounts given to everyone, then we can really decide if we can say they are stand up and honest. Regardless if they are doctors, lawyers, sous chefs, trinket sellers, or whoever and regardless of how they make an X come election times. Let the chips fall where they may.No matter what party anyone belongs to.

  • intobed
    November 08, 2012 - 13:18

    "Rally for Responsible Government" On November 12, Islanders from all walks of life are invited to come together to express their opposition to a wide ranging number of governmental policies ( electoral reform, Plan B, HST, hotel loans, PNP, Reproductive rights, etc) and to show their willingness to stand up for our democratic rights. The rally is happening on Monday, November 12th, between 2 and 4 pm in front of Province House.

    • Same ole same ole
      November 08, 2012 - 15:10

      You're kidding I hope.

  • surprised - NOT
    November 08, 2012 - 12:22

    Not surprised one bit. Glad to read the investigative reporting that is happening.

  • Southsider
    November 08, 2012 - 12:22

    So "Fast Forward Fisheries" got PNP? Its time this thing has a full time RCMP officer assigned to it-last time I check northsiders shouldnt need PNP

    • crickfisher
      November 08, 2012 - 13:10

      i think these companies should be called into revenue canada for an audit. back taxes on pnpand scallop money.done!

  • Hank Snow
    November 08, 2012 - 11:55

    I feel sorry for Olive... it like chasing a rat in a round room trying to get answers from the Ghiz government.

  • Mitch
    November 08, 2012 - 11:48

    There isn't one person in the Ghiz government that deserves the title as "Honorable". This government has to be the most crooked and the biggest group of liars in the history of Canada!!! They have treated Islanders like dirt and tried as hard as they could to make Islanders look like stupid people....well I've had enough of it. This government needs to be stopped RIGHT NOW!!! Not 2 or 3 years from now....they need to be taken out of power RIGHT NOW. Too many lies and too many scandals. Too much debt and too many failed decisions. They don't deserve to continue on. The PNP money needs to be paid back to the people it is meant for and the people who stole it need to be criminally charged for fraud!!

    • TO Mitch
      November 08, 2012 - 15:13

      And you base all this nonsense on what? A lot of businesses on this Island would resent your post.

  • Out with Red and Blue
    November 08, 2012 - 11:20

    I see no integrity, no honesty, no leadership and frankly, little intelligence in the PEI Liberals or PCs. The Green party is starting to look a whole lot better to me now that they have a new leader.

    • Green is becoming a more favorable color too
      November 08, 2012 - 17:34

      I never thought there would be a day that I would look beyond a Tory or Liberal party until now. If tories go back in, especially with the backroom boys, it is the same corruption and wrongdoing, arrogance, abuses of power, etc; but can't leave the Liberals in, all blatent corruption and bragging about it- spinning the stories has been just too much. The leader for the Green appears sensible, intelligent, transparent and not involved in any pnp, wrongdoing, and so on. I am leaning towards Green too, he needs to be out in public and Green party needs to work hard to get the party out there. I am sick to death of corruption, and patronage, Our island will never recover from all the damages.

  • candrayo
    November 08, 2012 - 11:18

    I for one thinks this GHIZ GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO GO NOW!!! I have lost all faith and I want nothing more to do with them. We, the people, NEED to end this now!!!

  • Sylvia
    November 08, 2012 - 11:08

    We deal with some of the companies on this list and they're good companies run by honest hard-working people. What concerns me is the people who abused the program and the government keeping everything so secret. I've never seen corruption and patronage as bad as it is now in P.E.I.

  • Resident
    November 08, 2012 - 11:03

    You are searching for the truth in the wrong list. Fake companies stole hundreds of thousands in PNP funds. Agent companies (selected group of Lawyers and Accountants) who orchestrated this scam stole hundreds of millions. Once you look at those 10-15 Agents, you will be see a direct connection to our ruling elite bank accounts...

  • concernedislander
    November 08, 2012 - 11:00

    I just want too thank CBC for there hard work in uprooting the PNP list hopefully the rest off the info will come fort in due time,its kinda funny too read some peoples post on her in giving Crane the big congrads over the PNP wake up people unless she runs or owns CBC she done nothing but jump on the old glory train trying too make ah name for herself lol,untill all polictical players no matter what colour they are become accountable for mishandling tax payers money and the ones they handed the money to, things will never change and as ah MP one should be free to voice there opinion without being peanilized by there premier all too often they are forced too agree on issues that are against there better judgement kinda like working at most island buissnesses just do as your told or suffer ,to bad it has too be so corrupt and so may depend on the government hand outs too survie

  • Blame
    November 08, 2012 - 10:47

    Come on Ghiz and Roach,Stop the blame game.Show some maturity and take responsibility for the problems with this good program that was created by mismanagement.It was not Olive Crane that broke the rules to give millions to party faithfull ,friends and family.Grow up.take responsibility.

  • Quiet Observer
    November 08, 2012 - 10:45

    Hey folks, this website gives some of the PEI corporations info, so it is interesting to run some names of people, companies, etc. http://immigrate.kingsjournalism.com/?page_id=71

    • To find info on numbered recipients
      November 08, 2012 - 18:38

      If you are having problems getting info from the gov't site on any of the pnp recipients, there is a better site to get the info on all companies 1.Go to the “Search the data we used/cashing in” Kings website who investigated the pnp scandal 2.On this website they have a search engine; choose how you want to search: name of director, address, etc 3.Type in the name or type in the address etc and all information will comes up Lots of information on all companies; If you think the name is fake then search the address and put the address in the search engine for example. Some of the consulting companies will come up as well. .

  • Quiet Observer
    November 08, 2012 - 10:37

    What really disgusts me is how stupid this government thinks we are. They think they can say whatever they want and we gullable little Islanders will believe them. Roach says he would be breaching privacy by speaking about the way his department officials and the directors of Island Investment Development Inc. handled this program (because that is what the Premier's Office has told him to say). And they are so arrogant they really believe we are stupid enough to believe this. People, how many times does this government have to walk all over us before we are going to say, "Enough!"

  • lilley
    November 08, 2012 - 10:25

    This PNP explanation by the "Mouth Pieces" only serves to re-state the old adage that "Figures don't lie, but Liars Figure"

  • Lloyd MacLeod
    November 08, 2012 - 10:10

    So where is the other 300 t0 400 million dollars if all these companies got one unit each? I thought this money was to help small business not some of the richest on P.E.I. Murphy and MacKnight I guess they needed the help. What a joke this is turning out to be.

  • Denied PNP money
    November 08, 2012 - 09:57

    I used to own a company that, according to PNP distributors, "qualified for all 4 units" but was shot down in our attempts to obtain the monies to HELP BUILD MY COMPANY. Each unit was worth $55,000, sorry let me correct that, $200,000, but after legal fees, and other cash grabbers, a unit was worth $55,000. So if a company received the maximum 4 units, you would recieve $220,000. Did our Liberal government want to help local businesses? Sure they did. ABCE accounting sure got a lot of help, seeing since they were the organization who were administering these units. We need a public inquiry on this. We Islanders have to stop letting ALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT walk on us. I'm a PC supporter, but regardless of what color you or I follow, if there is shady tatics being used it has to end!

  • Interested
    November 08, 2012 - 09:37

    I was just wondering what ever happened to the web site called open corporations and the closed corporations that not only listed the PNP recips but also the number of units they received. Surely someone saved this info

    • Swindler's List...
      November 08, 2012 - 13:03

      ...can be found at: http://closedcorporations.org/

  • It Just Gets Worse
    November 08, 2012 - 09:35

    I would like to known how much the new president of the PC party made as a PNP agent. People, it doesn't make any difference when it comes to red or blue. You will have to try on a new colour if you want honesty and change. This scandal will never be explained as long as red or blue run the show.

  • You're Not Serious
    November 08, 2012 - 09:33

    Responding to Alan Roach "Olive Crane wants to make our Island businesses feel ashamed for participating in a program that was designed to help Island businesses and help the Island economy.”" He obviously knows how to play the victim and try to be 'the injured party'. BUT as much as the guilty would like to hide in the skirts of the bonafide recipients, the public is smarter than that. FOUR YEARS LATER and it has not been forgotten. Holy Moly - in some cases many members of the extended families of the well-connected (political) on this island received multiple units for different companies... wow... and yes, they bought toys and went on trips and have beautiful homes and renovated cottages... all new within the last 5 years. Alan Roach - you're CAN'T be serious. Get the complete and unabridged list out there now! OLIVE CRANE - keep up the awesome work... against all odds, and more than a few in your party, your cause is coming to the fore - and as this saga unfolds the public will come to see the merit of your platform!!

  • Shocked
    November 08, 2012 - 09:26

    The Gentle Island or The Greedy Island.

  • pingu
    November 08, 2012 - 09:24

    Why is the Law Society of PEI not looking into McKnight's and other lawyers involvement? DO they not have a duty to uphold the integrity of the profession? How much were lawyers charging for simple paperwork? The law society loses all credibility if they do not investigate.

  • exit poll
    November 08, 2012 - 09:12

    'PEI Pork Plus Inc.' - says it all!

  • pei trucker
    November 08, 2012 - 09:09

    Right on chester L. If premier ghiz wont do it may be its time for the RCMP to do it? not only QUB has kick backs to the goverment & citys.Just look at who gets all the work in charlottetown & summerside.an yes these companys got lots of pnp money. Mr Ghiz its time to level the playing feld. and that goes for the mayors of ch-town & s-side to.

  • What do we tell our children Mr Premier?
    November 08, 2012 - 09:05

    No Public Inquiry, not to long ago our Premier say is was so honest and turned the PNP Program over the the RCMP. What happened to that probe, time to hear this. If the RCMP find wrongdoing, than what Mr Premier, would you be the one to make an announcement to our children about this scandal. As far as Al Roche, retired RCMP Officer, his excuses are worst that the Mountie who lied about moving the log and than admitted to touching it. By the way there was an eye witness, this misconduct is unbelievable. Public Inquiry needed so please Olive Crane keep requesting this.

  • Bath Salts
    November 08, 2012 - 08:54

    Bath Salts. That's the only thing that explains the Roach / Ghiz statements, "we would be breaching privacy" by speaking about the way my department officials and the directors of Island Investment Development Inc. handled this program! It took a supreme court judge to crack open a peep hole into PNP , and now this? Put aside party politics - no matter what party you're affiliated with (I voted Liberal) - and attend the rally on Monday, 2:00 at OUR Legislature. Be quite, be supportive, but in light of all that's happened, please don't be nothing.

    • Chester L
      November 08, 2012 - 11:40

      The View From Martinvale Hey Bath Salts....I am not sure of what this means.....but I have been around a few years and am a PC supporter.............but what gets me is that including the Premier and Innovation Minister .................Alan...........Who..........remember Joe Clark.........this is the height of ridicule that is heaped upon us voters and Islanders, are the people that literally stole this money , are they desperate, thank God they are never asked to get on Dragon's Den...........they would all look like Ebeneazor Scrooge............I had to laugh when I saw " Bath Salts " I suppose that would not cost to much money to go on a trip with......It is gone beyond....Hon Olive Crane is the only person who stands out and if she got some PNP and it was done properly , not a problem............we look like fools and incompentents because we let Greed and Abuse become proper decorum at the " Entitlement Feeding Trough " no words can describe the what is going in here ....only " The Law " will suffice now , and brought in from Ottawa, the rest is to corrupt to have an Island face on this investigation......utterly laughable...............Pay backs are never withheld ..getter done off Island RCMP...........

  • By Stander
    November 08, 2012 - 08:47

    LIKE PIGS AT THE TROUGH

  • robert
    November 08, 2012 - 08:37

    Roachies cheap shot at Crane in this article, is indicative of the mentality of the Ghiz gang, - caught in the act, they throw mud to coverf up their dirt. An ex RCMP officer hiding from the truth is also disturbing, but once you join Ghiz apparently you sell your soul. The fact is that the rules were broken, the question is at who's command was this done, --- a certain IDDI lawyer and chief advisor to counsin Ghiz ??

  • fred
    November 08, 2012 - 08:22

    Some things just do not add up. I fail to see any new jobs that p.n.p. money created. They reported that $120 million dollars went into the pei economy in the last few years from pnp money should have read 60% of the money went into personal off shore bank accounts. Where in the hell is CRA on this one.

  • Upperdunker
    November 08, 2012 - 08:07

    Great job, Theresa Wright, on reporting the facts of this ongoing scandal. Kevin Murphy and Stephen McKnight are only two individuals who were allowed to break the rules for receiving PNP money; and all Allan Roche can do is criticize Olive Crane for championing the truth. Roche is really saying, we got all this money dishonestly - but it's OK because it was good for the PEI economy.

  • PNP JOKE
    November 08, 2012 - 07:50

    What a joke! I wonder how many of these recipients decided to head south for a couple weeks with thier new unearned funds, because alot of these companies could of done without!! I hope Crane gets her public inquiry!

  • Chet
    November 08, 2012 - 07:48

    Nice one Guardian. Very good follow up to the CBC Compass soft lob story of last night; the PNP issue is over ( for the ninth time) panel discussion with Macneil and Maclean was even worse. Well done Teresa. This is not about using a legal program. It is about guys who get the huge feeds and the governments that allow it. Nice choices. Murphy in Chtown. McKnight in Sside. You can't find much more arrogant than those fellows. Perfect.

  • star
    November 08, 2012 - 07:41

    What about Dandy Duds! When did this establishment close!!!!!

  • Marie
    November 08, 2012 - 07:32

    How dare the Roach imply that Island businesses are going to suffer because Olive Crane asked for the truth. The amount of deception I saw yesterday, when I poured through every single numbered company, blows me away. Businesses set up yet never operated or filed tax returns.... Corporations dissolved...very few that have an immigrant on board. And still ghiz will not call for an inquiry. Well the hell with you ghiz.....THE PEOPLE OF PEI WANT ONE AND YOU, my big headed friend, WERE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. Get your Ottawa bound bags packed because me thinks you are about to move on hahaha

    • Johnny
      November 08, 2012 - 12:40

      Time to give the premier of this province * The PINK SLIP* Get rid of him,If you messed up at your job this badly. You would get one.So MUST HE. Now.How do we the people who are UNITED to get this started by the end of this year,Start this proceedure.

  • The lobsterman
    November 08, 2012 - 06:42

    All I know is that people that recieved PNP units all of a sudden were living "the life of riley " buying Trucks, Corvettes,porsches and new Harleys in Murray River and Murray Harbour at a time when their businesses were not making any money. So what good did it do the economy when the pnp was easily drained from the business to buy childs toys. Most of the rumors are true I have witnessed the waste with my own eyes. The CRA should have a great time tracking this money only to see it was actually spent for personal benefit and now the idiots will have huge Tax bills from their foolish actions. Audits Audits Audits

  • TruthWill ComeOut
    November 08, 2012 - 06:41

    Bravo CBC! Keep digging. Thank you, Pat Martel for being so patient on this one. We need to know who's in the greed circle and make sure they do not have positions of power. And what's great about this... it's going to happen. Karma is at work, folks.

  • Disgusted
    November 08, 2012 - 06:16

    We may have to install larger drains to handle all this dirt

  • John W.A.Curtis
    November 08, 2012 - 06:11

    Olive Crane didn't create the controversy with the PNP, it was the province. If P.E.I. wants to become a have province we all have to change. Olive Crane made Islanders take the first step. The next step is an inquiry.

  • How much a unit
    November 08, 2012 - 06:08

    How much did these companies get per unit? Did they have to show they used it to benefit their company?

  • nitpicker
    November 08, 2012 - 06:05

    What? Olive Crane wants to make businesses feel ashamed for participating in a program that was designed to help the Island? NO that's not it at all, and strawman statements like that infuriate me. Roach knows darn well that's not what is happening here. What Crane, and I think most Islanders, want is answers to questions like the ones posed in this article,such as why were rules blatantly disregarded? Yet we hide behind breach of privacy statements. I'm not naive. Loose interpretation of rules for personal gain has been happening forever. But this PNP stuff reeks.

  • william arsenault
    November 08, 2012 - 05:47

    I hope revenue canada is paying attention to this, mcknight's a lawyer what companies does he have, how many did he get. this is to dirty, the public has a right to know who is involved

  • Ashamed to call myself an ISLANDER
    November 08, 2012 - 05:43

    Ex R.C.M.P. officier Al Roach (now a politician), calls this a breach of privacy. The saga goes on. He states, it was good for the economy. He is right on this point because of all the phony companies that were formed, most of them went out and bought spanking brand new vechicles for their phony businesses and took fabulous vacations with their friends and families, all at the expense of the hardworking chinese people.Businesses in the world are now leary of doing business with us.We were once called proud Islanders. Today , we lost our integrity.

  • Chester L
    November 08, 2012 - 05:14

    The View From Martinvale...........Keep Digging Theresa....:) 1. The Innovation Dept Job Discription seems to read , See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.....nothing personal here regarding the current minister, it is part of the job requirement.....lack of backbone and no speak are also part of the job discription... 2. Now to add to the " Investigation we need the folks from Huffington Post and Kings College to dig deeper..............their is no stopping this opening up and that is 4 years overdue. 3. To even review the Minister's comments in this news story is a total waste of time, he is programmed, I Robot.... 4. Lets be Clear here again: Nobody has a problem with the Company's in PEI taking advantage of the chance for this " non taxpayers money " and doing it properly with the original intent of the PNP program, It is about those " who took money " from a position of Power, Lust, Greed , Entitlement and if proven then charges should be laid and the money paid back....as was done in part with MacMillion....This is not " rocket science " Focus On The Issue " and do not stop until this " troughing " is stopped.

  • voter
    November 08, 2012 - 05:05

    THEFT ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • Onthesidelines
    November 08, 2012 - 03:40

    To Joe Smith, did you ever hear of this saying "do the crime do the time" ?

  • SlyFox
    November 08, 2012 - 00:11

    Mr.Roach it is not Crane who is making the program look bad ,it is facts and truth that is doing it.

  • Where is the law society and CA's indeed
    November 08, 2012 - 00:00

    Great question from ConcernedIslander Summerside. How about that?? Where are all the professionals who structured all this crap and charged outrageous fees. One deal the government even withheld taxes due from the recipient. Privacy my fanny. thanks eh

  • Backwater Justice Cheverie erred at law
    November 07, 2012 - 23:54

    Is Al Roach never going to answer another question without Justice Cheverie conducting a 2 year Judicial Review.............Does Justice Cheverie say its OK for elected officials to conduct, manage, handle the cash(500 million dollars), deduct taxes, designate friends and each other benefits of large cash and fee bonanza for agents and then throw a blanket over it because its "private" all of a sudden?????? Does anybody accept this limp decision? Al can deny forever? Sorry the gig is up ask Mayor Tremblay. Public are very irate across Canada about abuse of powers for self enrichment fees. PEI cannot afford not to have a full inquiry. thanks eh

  • montreals got one and we're a province too
    November 07, 2012 - 23:39

    Look no further than Montreal for conclusive evidence that PEI needs a Public Inquiry into the PNP. In Montreal they are finding a few envelopes here and there and lots of million dollar "private" contracts with handsome kickbacks, preferential treatment , exclusive entitled elite. PEI has a blanket over 500 million dollars because they say its private. This is a farce and it is plain wrong. Inquiry is essential and worth every penny the way this government continues to blow Public funds in full breach of Public Trust. We have to prosecute crime in office, sorry. thanks eh

  • Shame
    November 07, 2012 - 23:12

    I don;t have a problem with companies getting the pnp, but when you see some people get it using a fake company thats what is really hard to swallow....just look at some of these companies names, not hard to pick out plus the number companies are used for people to hide behind....the worst part of this is that there was real small business that was turned down for one reason or another but a least there still here.....some of these people should have to pay the money back so the gov can give it to the little guys that are trying to survive on this dam island.....

  • Islander
    November 07, 2012 - 22:49

    Does everyone not realize that it is not the fault of the businessmen/women on PEI. They followed the rules and regulations set out by the government. Put the game out there and people will play by the rules. It is the government who screwed up. If you are going to complain about who got what, 90% of our businesses would be talked about / got PNP money.

  • Kevin K
    November 07, 2012 - 22:37

    Absolutely shamful. No wonder islanders did not support Rob MacEachern when he fought so hard to expose this. A quarter of the island is on the list. Rob was the lone voice that spoke out against this calculated and massive fraud against unsuspecting immigrants. We now owe him one big apology. What has the Island become under this Ghiz government? Ghiz needs to go directly to jail. Now!

  • Rob McEachern
    November 07, 2012 - 22:37

    Auditor did suggest that under Dynamite Dick Brown and Brooke MacMillan all the rules were changed several times without prior or proper approval while they administered the handing out of around 120 million dollars in grants which were thinly disguised as investments between "private parties", yet the department under these two men put all the parties together and approved them all and handled the money. They even with held money from private companies to pay off previous tax bills. But the real difficulty beyond this absolute huge manipulation for self enrichment of the chosen few; the part even worse is the approved 7 intermediaries and the lawyers and accountants charged 125 million in fees way beyond scale. We have to take a much closer look. Do we agree with cheverie that people in public office can use those positions to orchestrate 500 million dollar "private" deals for self and family enrichment? This is the first question of hundreds. The list looks phoney too, thanks eh.

  • Joe Blow
    November 07, 2012 - 21:50

    What Roach doesn't understand is that Olive Crane is not trying to shame any Island businesses that took advantage of this great program.....she is simply trying to expose how crooked the Liberal government is. There are many companies that followed the rules and received money the right way and that is great...no shame on those people or their companies.....but to the MLA's, friends and families of the Ghiz government who received several units of money and placed them into their personal holding accounts or created false businesses to receive money....Crane is trying to expose those people only because they wrongly took advantage of this program and they had friends pushing paper work through and pull strings behind the scenes. I am very glad that someone like Crane is working so hard to expose the truths about this scandal. It makes me feel good to see a hard working, honest and caring politician for a change.....there aren't many of them around!!

  • Gerry
    November 07, 2012 - 21:40

    @ Mr. Roach. Islanders and like minds are only interested in the network of friends and family who were granted $ in excess of what they were actually entitled/qualified to receive, regardless of how it was concealed and now obviously revealed.

  • Pius from BC
    November 07, 2012 - 21:33

    I was very glad to see the companies listed. Now, could we have the list of owners?

  • Concerned Islander Summerside
    November 07, 2012 - 21:29

    Where is the Law Society and the Institution of Chartered Accounts on all of this disclosure.

    • star
      November 08, 2012 - 07:47

      Probably many members there, also are guilty!

  • Follwer of PNP
    November 07, 2012 - 21:26

    Congratulations to this reporter Teresa Wright, you are gathering the real evidence, keep digging. Their are many others besides the two mentioned. For our Innovation Minister to be dodging the issue speaks volumes. A public inquiry is exactly what is needed. Lets hope the Immigrants bring their own Lawyers and go after all of them. All those who made these deals happen should be dealt with, if in fact there was shady deals.

  • blatant rule breaking GREED,patronage
    November 07, 2012 - 21:24

    You will also see a number of "HOLDING COMPANIES" that were used to receive funds..that to was not allowed.................GHIZ may deny a public enquirey..now..but it is coming eventually...this file is taking ona life of it's own....holders beware.......this govt will not be in power for ever...............okay we know the rules and guidelines were abused.....what action can be taken? and by whom?to rectify this...

  • Joe Smith
    November 07, 2012 - 21:22

    I am a business person who manages Canada for a US firm. It seems we have become news again in PEI for all the wrong reasons. It has become common practice, as I travel in Canada, to hear companies who do not want to business on PEI because of stories like these. If you want to be in the world of business, act like it so others will appreciate the talent we have here Ever hear of the saying "the rich get richer". This maybe a great example. .

    • your funny
      November 08, 2012 - 06:35

      I work for a PEI company that does business all over the world! Companies from all over the world come to us because of our outstanding work that we do in our field. The reflection of crooked government and their buddies does not cast a shadow over this company. So do go around saying people don’t want to do business with companies from PEI that is not true. It’s the companies that want to come to PEI fill their pockets with money from our governments funds and take off and leave islanders holding the bag. they would be the same people calling down PEI in the business world and we don’t want to do business with companies like that anyway.

    • Traveling business person
      November 11, 2012 - 10:53

      to 'Your Funny' Well said.