UPDATE: Olive Crane survives by 42 votes

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An amendment to the party's constitution that would have forced a leadership review in 2013 gets defeated by a vote of 384 to 342

Olive Crane held on to the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party by just 42 votes Saturday night, but she says the party will go forward united.

More than 900 people packed into the Rodd Royalty hotel for the party’s annual general meeting Saturday in Charlottetown.

Organizers said this was the largest turnout ever for an AGM.

NEW VIDEO: CLICK HERE FOR HIGHLIGHTS OF OLIVE CRANE'S SPEECH TO THE PC AGM SATURDAY.

 

The membership was voting on an amendment to the party’s constitution that would have forced a leadership review in 2013.

Many people lined up in front of microphones to speak to the motion. Several high profile and well-known members of the party spoke in favour of Crane’s leadership and said they felt the motion to force a leadership review was a divisive move.  

Others said they felt the way the whole question of a review played out in the public and the media was the wrong approach.

Long time party insider Nelson Hagerman said those pushing for a review should have been more respectful to Crane.

“I think this motion should be shot down totally,” Hagerman said.

Former party leader Pat Mella, who went through a similar situation 16 years ago when party insiders at that time wanted a new leader, said she was given a greater courtesy than Crane because she was asked to step aside.

“I had the decision to make. Nobody made it in the public media first,” Mella said.

“We cannot continue to eat our own. We can’t do this.”

Others said the motion was not meant to be a referendum on Crane’s leadership, but an opportunity for the party to have an open debate about its leadership before the next election.

“I don’t have any hidden agenda and I’m not lurking in any shadows…I though it was important to have an opportunity to have a leadership review sooner rather than later,” said Keith Boswall, who put forward the motion.

“If we don’t resolve this issue, it is going to plague us. The members need to decide and I can’t think of any better way to put the party first than letting all of you decide,” said Charlottetown lawyer Murray Murphy.

In the end, the party voted against the amendment by a vote of 384 to 342.

There were seven spoiled ballots.

That means Crane holds on to her party’s leadership by only 42 votes.

Gerard McCardle said he was disappointed with the results. He said the closeness of the results will only mean the party will remain divided on this issue.

“We cannot continue to eat our own. We can’t do this," Pat Mella, former PC leader

“We wanted a review. It had nothing to do with our leader it had to do with a review and unfortunately where we stand now is a divided party,” McCardle said.

Still, Crane says she believes she can bring the party together under her leadership going forward.

“I just see it as a lot more work that needs to be done.”

Crane said the party needs to keep an eye on the end game, which is the next provincial election in 2015. She's confident the party will come out of the vote united.

Crane has always said if her poll numbers don’t improve, she will subject herself to a leadership review in 2013.

“The polls are one aspect,” Crane told reporters Saturday.

“My commitment remains that if we’re not all working together and we’re not showing to Islanders a real alternative, including your famous polls, then I’ll do the right thing for the party.

“But today is not about that at all. It’s about getting the job done and to continue to move ahead.”

 

... Much more to come, including photos and video from Saturday's annual general meeting.

 

 

Organizations: Progressive Conservative Party

Geographic location: Charlottetown

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  • MOE
    November 05, 2012 - 11:11

    WELL HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Come on Olive show us what you realy can do , not just , talk I have asked for your help in several isues , you nerver helped in any way . When election time roles arount , the only person that shows up at our door is the Liberal Party. Show us you care at least show up in your own riding .

  • M Gunn
    November 05, 2012 - 10:47

    Olive, our super leader and next premier! You are a person who works for all islanders! and I am happy to support you!

  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    November 05, 2012 - 07:37

    Congrats to Ms. Crane for standing up to to the corrupted 47%. You folks that are whining because of a few percentage points ought to get off of the democratic band wagon you are on and accept the fact that "in a democracy 51% of the people can impose their will on the other 49% of the people." Yet you say democracy is fair, I say it is not. What makes the democratic process "more fair" is "what percentage of the vote constitutes a majority?" That is the question that should be asked, otherwise it's "my bigger gang" against your "not quite as big gang". Perhaps it is better said this way "Why should 51% get to tell 49% that they are wrong and are going to be disappointed. Since political parties are just legal gangs anyway it only makes sense that the back room boys of the pc party would vie to take over leadership of the party in an effort to consolidate their power with the liberal party back room boys. All the better to screw Islanders. If big biz runs all big parties then big biz can do as it wills.

  • countryhick
    November 05, 2012 - 06:58

    My mother who is 87 years old and a dyed in the wool Tory has inofrmed me that this type of behaviour of the Tories eating their own and neglecting to look after their own flock has been going on ever since she can remember. No, maybe Olive Crane is not the best leader the Tories have had; however, she is an honest, genuine woman who cares for the welfare of all Islanders. If I were in her position, I would put the run to Jason Lee, McCardle, Murphy, Boswall, and Dennis King (who hails from one of the biggest Liberal families in King County). James Aylward needs a good come uppings as well. This nonsense of infighting and backstabbing is just giving the Ghiz government another mandate. Get it together folks, listen to Pat Mella. Although I am not the biggest fan of Ms. Crane, I will reiterate she is a very honest lady who will do her utmost to keep things transparent. She may or may not become Premier, but for now, she is our Leader, so those of you who want her out, give your heads a shake and lend some support for the good of our province.

  • i live down a dirt road
    November 05, 2012 - 00:29

    this is all too funny, can't understand why jason lee and all the others who want to take over didn't run in the last leadership race where was that group of ppl then lol, o well maybe olive crane will take this as a good thing, because we all know she needed something good to happen lately, i wonder if she cried a lot of votes from people

  • NDP
    November 04, 2012 - 20:18

    Thank You James Aylward. Mike send him a bottle of wine as he is helping you and your new party get a few seats next election. Imagine him thinking he could be leader. Stratford is a small place, watch what you say to people folks.

  • M.Trainor
    November 04, 2012 - 20:00

    CONGRATULATIONS OLIVE!! To be honest I had no intentions on going on Saturday but when I saw Mike Currie's mug on the evening news on Friday my mind was made up to get to the Rodd Royalty to support you Olive. Thanks Mike Currie what an inspiration you are!!

  • Tattooed Papa
    November 04, 2012 - 17:08

    I think it took a lot of courage to do what Jason Lee put into motion. This is someone who has been a passionate party member since he was a teen (youth party). He is not some "Johnny Come Lately" to PC life. He knew that the word on the street was that Olive Crane did not have the appoval ratings or the support of people in general. He knew that without this support, the party could potentially not be elected in 2015 based on leadership alone. He was so passionate about his party's well being that he did something that was very difficult to do. He knew going into this that this could potentially affect his standing with the current PC party and could put a fairly large target on his back. Let's remember, folks...all that was being asked was an opportunity to review the party's leadership before the next election. This should have been a given. If Olive Crane is confident in her leadership and that it is best for the PC Party, why not give the membership the opportunity to review her work so far and make an educated decision as to whether she should lead into the next election. I'm really not that passionate about politics. I am not a member of any party. I am passionate about democracy.

    • Chucker
      November 05, 2012 - 08:23

      If you are so passionate about democracy why are you missing our key problem in politics today, attributing positive intentions to political pedigree celebrities when we have clear evidence to the contrary. There is no need to elaborate the failed project of Robert Ghiz any longer. The majority of honest Islanders no longer need to list the many actions of his government that have been wasteful, arrogant and possibly corrupt. In the case of Ghiz it is clear that people invested in him because his pedigree as son of a premier would carry him to power and then in turn he could return the favour with whatever they wanted. That is exactly what has happened with this Liberal prince. So then why in the name of all that is sensible would the local Tories race head long to their anoninted one Jason.... the son of a premier? Like Robert, Jason has shown no real interest in issues nor people. He is no warrior for democracy. He messed this up by mixing the message. You can't say it is simply a harmelss review and then commission a poll focused on the current leader. It was very duplicitous and not very democratic at all. I would like to see Jason finished up in politics as badly as I would love to see Ghiz sent into retirement. If you want democracy then listen to people trying to tell the truth not people whose pedigree alows them to see the truth as a remote secondary consideration. I have already decided to go NDP but I do thank Olive for holding down Jason and his buddies. I want to see an end to pedigree in politics and get on with the issues and the problems we face.

  • fed up
    November 04, 2012 - 15:58

    for the liberals who think the next election will be a cakewalk remember how this current govt. was an underdog 2 elections ago but got in because of the binns crookedness with polar and other things. remember crane's mandate is to prove the corupt actions of the pnp and both liberals and some pc's were guilty of this pnp and it maybe enough to get the liberals pushed out.guys like ballem and currie i bet benefitted from the pnp and suddenly they might be running away from the pc party.like to see what our mp gail shea thinks of all this mess.

  • Islandwoman
    November 04, 2012 - 13:36

    Why are you misleading Islanders? You claim "Olive Crane held on to the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party by just 42 votes Saturday night, " but that is NOT TRUE. The vote was on whether to have a leadership review in 2013. Ms Crane would have "held on to the leadership" regardless of the vote on Saturday. Is this the accuracy level you bring to all your stories?

  • SG
    November 04, 2012 - 11:59

    Am I the only one who had trouble hearing the live Video Links provided on this Report?

  • SG
    November 04, 2012 - 11:46

    To BA Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. If the Liberal Party wants even a chance of winning the next Election you might want to consider a New Liberal Leader and I doubt even that will garner enough Votes.!

  • don
    November 04, 2012 - 11:04

    As an island voter and listening to both jason lee and murray murphy you are both a joke and a disgrace to the PC party. What is your secret agenda behind this? Tell the truth if you know what it means? And if you are all that good then run for leader of the pc party so I can vote ndp or green. If you are true PC's then work for the party and for islanders. And now that you have new pres. and vis-president. Now we can move ahead. NEIL I THINK HE IS A LIBERAL. And SG I think works for the cbc as they use the same way of wording things. and if you want the PC party to win then you need the back room boys working with the leader not stabbing her in the back.

  • don
    November 04, 2012 - 10:22

    BA. once the secret papers are open from the PNP there will be less votes for ghizzy as the cowards names will be out to the tax payers and now we can find who has the missing millions? and to me i want theses people in federal prison as they have money that belongs to the people.

    • dm
      November 05, 2012 - 00:13

      So you want to vote pc instead of liberal let me guess right lol , well they have their own deals they should be in jail from as well poler foods and so on...

  • Bertie
    November 04, 2012 - 10:15

    So the back room boys get whipped. So what is happening in this province? How the mighty have fallen. Back room political advisors from old regimes. Extremely arrogant lawyers. Guys who stuffed their pockets full from past political allegiances. Sons and daughters of privilege and pedigree. People of such backgrounds used to run the place no problem. Like lack of public concern used to be a prerequisite for having political influence here. The worst of us always used to dominate us. No problem. Now these kind of folks can no more effectively remove a woman leader than they can keep the lid on a PNP patronage list. Like wow where are these back roomers, Liberal and Tory, getting their advice these days? They can't seem to get anything right. I love it. The day of the hidden powerful ones scaring everybody into compliance is passing. These guys are too incompetent to be afraid of any more. I am NDP but I salute Olive Crane. She is genuinely trying to do good and she just gave me enormous satisfaction by brushing aside these true reprehensibles. Very well done. The definition of the powerful has changed here. Excellent. Vote for whom you want, Islanders. Say what you want. This is big stuff. The scary ones are nothing. They are failing at every turn, especially at the big things they were really and truly trying to achieve. It is amazing.

  • Good Luck
    November 04, 2012 - 09:38

    Good Luck trying to keep this bunch together . 47 % of those in attendance are not satisfied with Olive. The only way she can gain support in the party is to come up with viable policies of her own. Sitting in the house spewing off at the Liberals gets tiring . Show us you are a leader .

    • She can win without Binn's boys
      November 13, 2012 - 00:10

      Harper had 49% and he was in, she can still win and more so as everyone is sick of the old Binn's hanger-ons, including Islanders! They were bringing her down due to all of their backstabbing and deceitful ways, she needed a way to get them out and they did her a favor. Even the party is sick of them, Olive was even warned of Murray Murphy's deceitful, rather stupid backstabbing event, by more than one so it goes to show even the party has had enough of these goons. She will become far stronger. If the Binn's boys get in, they will have less of a percentage as Islanders still remember the corruption under that regime, with his boys out in front. They will never get elected on the Island.

    • Redneck bullying a thing of the past, no more no thanks
      November 13, 2012 - 00:36

      Mike Currie and Murray Murphy , those redneck bullying behaviors have gotten old. The party has matured and so have Islanders. If the binn's boys were not so busy conniving and banging their chests in their silly self-important rituals, they would realize, life has progressed far beyond their old burnt out useless ways and along with their deceitful, backstabbing immature ways. Please stay in retirement, and take Murray with you now that he has resigned and give us a break and an opportunity to move on without tainting us with your Binn's corrupt ways. We are sick of it and so are islanders.

  • What A Good Day For PEI
    November 04, 2012 - 09:28

    CONGRATULATIONS Olive! What a good day for 95% of PE Islanders . Finally a chance for a honest government that is open and transparent with integrity . Olive - you have your hands full but I'm sure you can do the job . Time to get tough & clean house , you don't need the likes of Jason Lea, Keith Boswell, Mike Currie, Jamie Ballum , McCardle & James Alyward in a party that means to be honest . Tell them to go & join another party that appreciates their sleazy ways . I'm sure when you get rid of these backstabbers , the party will unite big time . I'm sure they worked against you in the last election & they will do it again if you don't clean house . The posting Liberals above will start useing their heads for more than holding their ears apart by the time Ghiz is finished this term & want a honest goverment for a change . Olive STAY THE COURSE

    • karma
      November 04, 2012 - 15:01

      You left out the Senator from Ontario! The ring leader. Have Harper take him home. Also can't wait to see the PNP company names made public. There's a tale of the back room boys yet to be told. Looks good on all of ya!

  • Marie
    November 04, 2012 - 08:44

    Yeah Olive...never doubted that you would beat this vote. And now that you know who your own party backstabbers are, can you clean house before the next election to ensure we don't end up Ghizifried again? Elected officials need to be concerned with ALL of their constituents; not just the choosen few!!! P.S. Thanks for the start of the PNP answers. Keep them transparent!

    • Congrats Olive
      November 13, 2012 - 20:51

      Congrats Olive, you successfully have shown you have more strength that those bullies who tried to overthrow you! And more brains than all of them put together. You are transparent, honest, and people do like you; they did not like the old Binn's regime that just tried to oust u from power in the most shameful display of undemocratic ploys. Your honesty and integrity is a threat to all of them, Now that the pnp list is available, you can see why one of the ring leaders, who tried to backstab you also wanted you silenced regarding the pnp. It does not look good or ethical for a lawyer, who has a position in the law society, to be associated with a pnp where the company connected to him and his address appears to be a company on paper only- Unless of course, Freedom Orthodontics corp is manufacturing the orthodontic equipment at Murray Murphy's place of residence. Now that he has resigned, (Yeah!) he can fill up his time making that orthodontic equipment- right- what a backstabbing hypocrit.

  • Islandwoman
    November 04, 2012 - 07:51

    Why does the Guardian continue to distort this story? Shouldn't the facts be printed instead? They voted on whether to have a leadership review in 2013. Regardless of the outcome of the vote Olive Crane would have remained the leader at least until the actual leadership review and most like after. You are misleading and distorting the facts. There are people who voted for the review that support Olive Crane so to say SHE survived by 42 votes is not factual. She has much more support than that.

  • BA
    November 04, 2012 - 07:42

    Congatulations from us Liberals, Actually a Big Thank-you from us Liberals!! This is the best news we could have gotten. Another majority for our Liberal Premier and us Liberals and Jobs and more Money for our faithful followers. Keep up the fight you Conservatives amoung yourselves, we love it! Maybe there was a few liberal votes got into the mix last night just to make sure Olive stayed on. Headlines in 2015, Liberal Majority!!! Thank you, Thank you Thank you!!!

    • NDP Rising
      November 04, 2012 - 11:06

      Not so fast. Yes the Tories are twisted and divided but the Liberals have proven to be corrupt, arrogant, dishonest and incompetent. You guys cannot even defend yourselves any more. In 2015 you will be beaten. You have richly earned the drubbing that is coming your way. For sure.

  • Benjamin Jones
    November 04, 2012 - 07:16

    Divided Tories, corrupted/ignorant Liberals, aimless NDP. It's looking good for the Greens with a new leader.

    • Patrick
      November 04, 2012 - 09:19

      hahahahaha

  • Garth Sanderson
    November 04, 2012 - 07:09

    Congrations to Olive. But once again the head line should read that the party voted against a leaders review in 2013. The question was not about her leadership at this time. It is like the pole the Guardian had published last Saturday. They did not check out whow had the pole done and if it was true. It was just juicy news.

  • Stratford Voter
    November 04, 2012 - 06:19

    James Alyward needed to take a stance yesterday-saying he was impartial was a farce. Take a stand on something James-you seem to "take the high road" on just about everything. Seems with this type of attitude you will be nothing more than a "yes" man. Do you have a tough time when going to Dairy Queen and deciding between Vanilla and Chocolate ice cream? Or do you stay impartial there as well?

  • BLT
    November 04, 2012 - 05:21

    All the best to Olive Crane and the PC Party of Prince Edward Island. With the leadership review question out of the way for now, it is time get out there and show the people of this Province that a PC government under the leadership of Ms. Crane is the best choice for P.E.I. and PEIslanders.

  • good riddance
    November 04, 2012 - 05:03

    very divise mutineers -- dennis king and murray murphy -- will be shown the door or the gang plank ---

  • Mell
    November 03, 2012 - 22:57

    RECOUNT-RECOUNT-RECOUNT!!!

  • Bernie
    November 03, 2012 - 21:50

    Way to go,Olive!!!!!! Who cares what the #'s were----you won,and Lee and Boswell should be ashamed of themselves. At least Boswell went up to the stage with you,while Lee and his family took off out the back door. As for Mr. Aylward,he should also be ashamed. Didn't even have the guts to say he would support his own leader. He will pay dearly--thought he would get a crack at the Leadership???????

    • Downrigger
      November 03, 2012 - 22:53

      OH ya theyre all going down, lee, Boswell, all those others luring in the shadows eh Hagerman? eh Bernie, all 342 of them.... oh divisive, oh taking down the party, go ahead losers, just keep her there, go ahead!! give ghiz another mandate but don't change anything, blame it on Lee and Boswell, forget the other 340, THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO of them!!! and you accuse them of luring in the shadows....nearly half your number!!! Go ahead....Ignore them..dufus, I mean Bernnie, Oh they'll just go away quietly Bernie, you'll never hear of them again, nothing to worry about now Bernie....Hezeus, no wonder the Liberals have snagged two majorities.... oh no divisivness hagerbag, what would you know of respect..

  • Quiet Observer
    November 03, 2012 - 21:22

    Well Mr. McCardle, you didn't get your way so you are going to whine and be a divisive factor within the party? Maybe, Mr. McCardle, if you can't accept losing that vote like a man, maybe you should just go away. The party does not need negative, divisive people.

    • Mr MacCardle
      November 04, 2012 - 11:04

      Gerard MacCardle should stay in summerside! Oh wait he couldn't keep his Executive job in his home town! Lost to a new face last year from the floor! I hope the new executive take him out of his position of District Rep! He should stop whinning! Motion wAs deafed! Its people whinning that causing a divide!

  • ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL
    November 03, 2012 - 21:08

    And this will go how far against the Liberals......about that far you tories failed badly as will be seen in the next election for it will be tooooooo late to say ....(I KNEW WE SHOULD HAVE PICKED A REAL LEADER)

    • intobed
      November 04, 2012 - 00:39

      I believe that this was a fight for Olive, and like the last time she was challenged, she won. As someone who could care less about the political parties, and doesn't believe in either the Liberals or Conservatives, I must admit that Olive has risen is stature as a leader who has a majority of followers who want a leader who is perhaps more honest than the corrupt wanna bees who are trying to out her. Olive, please hold to your principles. Don't compromise to hold on to the party. Clean house instead. We need to clean out the corrupt manipulators in all the parties. Perhaps someday PEI will actually have elections based upon honest people who want the best for PEI, and not just morally bankrupt greedy individuals out to help themselves and their buddies to our pocket books.

  • SG
    November 03, 2012 - 20:53

    RE: the Headline: "Olive Crane survives by 42 votes" I feel that should read: Olive Crane wins by 42 votes

  • Out of excuses
    November 03, 2012 - 20:48

    Now that the leadership review was defeated what will Olive's next excuse be when she fails to get anywhere? The weather?

  • SG
    November 03, 2012 - 20:47

    To stand up for what one believes in is a quality I admire. Congratulations Olive.

  • Judge Judas
    November 03, 2012 - 20:34

    In retrospect, this was probably a good experience. A revealment that there are indeed dark factions more concerned with personal wealth and power than the welfare of their fellow man. Be watchful of slick-tongued foxes trying to enter the henhouse.

  • upwest proud
    November 03, 2012 - 20:26

    A leadership requires 60% to win, Ms Crane only achieved 52% with the question to amend the party constitution, this is not a resounding victory, it is a defeat disguised as a win, because of this poor showing Ms Crane will have to step down before the end of next year. Even with the endorsement of Pat Mella, George MacDonald and 3 MLAs she was barely won, doesn't say alot about her ability to build unity and a stronger base within the party.

    • Islandwoman
      November 03, 2012 - 21:41

      They didn't have a leadership review - they voted on whether to have a leadership review in 2013. Regardless of what the Guardian says, Olive Crane would have remained leader regardless of how the vote turned out today. And not everyone who voted for the review is against Olive Crane as leader. I know people that support Olive Crane and voted for the review because they thought it might put the matter to rest.

  • Used to be Conservative
    November 03, 2012 - 20:09

    Sad sad day for the PC's. Only 53% of the members want her as leader.. how can they hope to convert others... sad day indeed

    • Garth Staples
      November 03, 2012 - 20:36

      53% said they didn't want a leadership review. Get the facts straight. oh nameless one .

    • Garth Staples
      November 04, 2012 - 15:32

      As if nobody could use a fake name.

  • vick
    November 03, 2012 - 19:59

    YESSS another term with the liberals! Keep er going Olive haha! You just got the ndp the most votes ever on pei the next election!

    • What a wonderful project
      November 14, 2012 - 04:28

      Congratulations Kate! Your highly ethical stance that you consistently maintain and uphold, along with your unlimited energies and untiring efforts to assist and support students both on and off the Island have been traits that make you an outstanding educator and a highly ethical human being. I am confident that this will be a successful undertaking for everyone. Congratulations to those who are involved with this project!

  • Chester L
    November 03, 2012 - 19:58

    The View From Martinvale........... Congratulations Olive, It has been a good day............the vote has been decided and now you have the Leadership to move forward....................some advice.. 1. Pick Advisors before Admirers..................It is now in your court to lead and repair, renew and begin a new and fresh approach to to rebuild from a tired " old guard " who had their day and now we need new recruits with their focus on becoming more outreach to speak to all PC's not just those who perhaps have more than others and prefer Charlotttetown and Summerside as oppose to Launching and Coleman, all of us in the end only have one vote and our standing is one of being able to exercise that right to vote and all of us regardless of stature or standing in our society and are no better or lesser than but are equal before the laws of this land and of God..........We should remember this as we go forward.:) One PC member looking to a better day for all islanders.

  • paul
    November 03, 2012 - 19:53

    it is done , move on , unite and defeat a wanta be leader and party that will have more than doubled our debt in 8 years , hst , plan b ,pnp , could it be the WORST government in the history of our beautiful Island .

  • Murdock Morrison
    November 03, 2012 - 19:43

    It is not easy being a leader these days and Olive Crane must now move forward even though she would have preferred a solid endorsement from her party. She will have to show that she has what it takes to lead the party to victory in the next election and I have every confidence that she will .A Bluenosere from afar.

  • paul
    November 03, 2012 - 19:40

    wow

  • Hairy Truman
    November 03, 2012 - 19:33

    Does the Guardian's senior political reporter really believe what he has written or did he intentionally mislead? "Olive Crane has narrowly held on to the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party..." Really? Funny, didn't realize the party was voting on her leadership. "That means Crane holds on to her party’s leadership by 42 votes." Really? You must have the ability to see into the future in some alternate universe where the constitutional amendment passed and the party voted in a leadership review in 2013.

  • phyrric fellow
    November 03, 2012 - 19:26

    If ever there was a phyrric victory this has got to be it...she was barely able to muster enough support in her own party to squeak by...42 votes between good bye and hanging around to go into another election... great news for all other three parties for obvious reasons.

  • fred murphy
    November 03, 2012 - 19:25

    come on Guardian! tell the truth in your headline. Olive Crane would still be leader tomorrow if if the vote went the other way. This was not a vote to get rid of Olive. This was a vote to review next year.

  • Liberal Poll Chair
    November 03, 2012 - 19:24

    Crane Wins should be headline..democracy says that 384-342 means Olive is the leader-good night back room boys......

  • Fed Up
    November 03, 2012 - 19:22

    It never ceases to amaze us that there are still people blind enough to support Robert Ghiz!!! Can you not SEE and HEAR what he's doing to our province and our people? Some of you would vote Liberal if they stole your whole family!!! Check out the health care (how many vascular surgeons do we have? None? What about Dermatologists? None? More than 9,000 people without a family doctor and Ghiz is threatening them so bad they have to close their practices and move from a G.P. to a "Hospitalist".........whatever THAT is, except another Ghiz puppet.......What do people do without a doctor when they are suffering and need pain pills? THEY SUFFER. Those of you who support Ghiz? Probably not a sick day in your life! Along with healthcare....chek out the DEBT - the worst in history - and Liberals keep spending like drunken you know what....but YOU STILL DON'T LEARN....VOTE LIBERAL........Unbelievable.... ,

  • Phil Wallace
    November 03, 2012 - 19:13

    Anyone who thinks this is about back-stabbing is living in the dark ages. This is a perfect example of how democracy works. Opening up the question of leadership is an amazing right, and to do so without fear of being persecuted should be celebrated. If a few people have their ego bruised, it's a small price to pay, especially if it breathes new life into politics and gives Olive the impetus to fight harder. Congrats Olive... and congratulations to the PCs for showing up to ask the critical questions.

    • Islandwoman
      November 03, 2012 - 19:51

      It seems like back stabbing because the leadership review was just voted on last year. If people wanted to do things differently they should have spoken up then. I thought the way democracy worked was that the party united around the individual who won the leadership fair and square. Democracy is not refusing to work with the leader and plotting against her. Sounds to me like its the losers that have bruised egos and refuse to accept they lost.

  • peiGuy
    November 03, 2012 - 19:13

    A majority of 53% is hardly a victory! This is a leader who needs to reconsider her options.

  • Good day for a crime spree in Morell
    November 03, 2012 - 19:07

    Awfully big back room conspiracy if half the members at the meeting agreed and supported the motion.

  • Neil
    November 03, 2012 - 19:00

    Looks good on Jason lee. This is the type of stunts he is known for!

  • POLITICAL FOLLOWER
    November 03, 2012 - 19:00

    Congratulations Olive Crane, you stuck with it, did not back down from the shadow lurkers, back stabbers Jason Lea, Keith Boswell, Mike Currie, Jamie Ballum, the list goes on. Now that Justice Wayne Cheverie ruled in favour of CBC in releasing those who got PNP Units, look out, watch the Lawyers and Accountants run for cover, just watch the next waste of taxpayers money when the government decides to appeal Justice Cheverie decision. This ruling was based on facts of law, no appeal division will rule against facts of law, it is what it is. Justice was a long time coming, now we will see just who gained from these PNP Units, better worded : theft of money from Immigrants" I only pray the Immigrants get lawyers and sue the lot of them. Every Lawyer who benifited should be investigated and barred if appropriate, all accountants who benifited should be investigated and licences revoked if appropriate. This is corruption and cover up at its best. Attorney General Janice Sherry and Acting Auditor General should call for a full blown Public Inquiry. Than and only than will people have faith in the Justice system.

    • Murphy is notorious for appeals
      November 04, 2012 - 01:56

      Way to go Olive! Congrats! I am fearful as well that Justice Wayne Cheverie ruling will be appealed to continue the cover-up and wrongdoing. Look at the disgraceful way M Murphy has appealed the human rights decisions while degrading a university, harming individuals, stalling justice, higher costs to the university, but he gets paid well. A self serving poor looser. I would bet a group of them had appeals written up before the judgement was read, just in case. I hope not, but time that Islanders stand up against the shameful way so called professionals, well more accurately, unethical sore loosers who hold professional jobs have acted and harmed so many people. Judgement day is on horizon hopefully! I also agree that Islanders have lost total faith in the justice system, and corruption everywhere is out of control, along with those who have abused their positions and became so self-serving. Olive's victory shows that the bad guys don't always win. The judge's decision, if no appeal, will show transparency and who is involved with the immigration scandal. Want to see the names of accountants and lawyers.

    • Agree, Justice will prevail
      November 04, 2012 - 01:55

      Way to go Olive! please continue to be open and transparent, maybe there will be justice for many many people, the people involved have harmed many people, getting away with pnp, then just being out of control and doing whatever they liked, breaking laws, breaking rights of others, disgraceful and disgusting behavior! Finally, maybe the justice system will get cleaned up on the Island.

  • Joe Blow
    November 03, 2012 - 18:45

    The only people who don't want Crane as the PC leader are the type of people that are trying to personally profit from all the back room deals that happen in todays kind of government. Its great news and a huge step forward for the PC party and for Island politics that Crane has kept her spot as the party leader. She is the kind of politician I want working for me. She cares about Islanders and she cares that the Ghiz government are throwing tax dollars in the garbage with ever deal they make! I want a politician that cares about ALL Islanders well being and that wants to see ALL Islanders benefit from government decisions....not just the back room boys like Ghiz caters to. I think its great that Jason Lee and Keith Boswell were put in their place. They should be supporting their leader and do what they can to help her succeed....not go against her for their own profit. Congrats Olive. The next election should be a tight one with the PC's and NDP's neck and neck....with the Lying Liberals getting 0 votes!!

  • SlyFox
    November 03, 2012 - 18:36

    I hope the backstabber got their 30 pieces of silver.

  • don
    November 03, 2012 - 18:32

    There were seven spoiled ballots. i wonder who they were? they are not the stupid i wonderi that was done on purpose.

  • Liberal & NDP
    November 03, 2012 - 18:26

    To Mr Ghiz, Merry Christmas! You got your wish..

  • Fed Up
    November 03, 2012 - 18:12

    The Guardian should learn to get the proper meaning from these things and not jump at something that makes all but the Liberals look bad! Voting was not against Olive Crane......the motion was to have a Leadership Review before 2017 - NOT to decide if Ms. Crane SURVIVES....... If someone wanted her to step down, it's because she's too nice of a person to fight Ghiz.....you need someone as arrogant and controlling as HE is....our province is in the worst shape ever...and he doesn't care....he can retire on full pension.....and the rest of us will struggle to repair what he is continually wrecking.... !

  • truegrit
    November 03, 2012 - 18:11

    As a Liberal I am super happy about this. Olive couldn't become premier if she was only running against herself! We are headed towards our third election win. Go Grits!

    • My thoughts exactly
      November 03, 2012 - 19:25

      The Liberals want her to run for premier in the next election. And the Conservatives wanted a review of her leadership. Last time I checked 1+1=2

  • Tim
    November 03, 2012 - 18:01

    A party divided. Not a good sign.

  • Olive Crane Wins Again
    November 03, 2012 - 18:01

    Wow the headline must have been written by the dissenters who failed miserably in their public disgrace and betrayal. Bravo Olive, again. thanks eh...Rob McEachern

  • Riverton native
    November 03, 2012 - 17:50

    CONGRATULATIONS Olive! Honesty and Truthfulness did prevail. Without doubt you will be the next Premier of this Province.

  • Robby McRobb
    November 03, 2012 - 17:48

    Congratulations to Olive Crane. Best wishes from BC. Now is the time to be steady Jason Lee and the gang of old school reprobates must be very careful. We need you Olive at the Helm to take the Island to the next election and dump the Ghizites. Again Well Done Olive and her team. Robby McRobb True Blue Tory

  • Ed Gallant
    November 03, 2012 - 17:45

    Looks good on those backroom manipulators.As it turns out, their polls were all wrong. Olive bested everyone of the backstabbers in the party. It's nice to know that the hoi poloi didn't back down from those who would try to be king makers. These people tried a coup and failed.This is a win/win weekend for Olive. It looks like we will get to see the PNP names.This was what this attempted coup was all about.