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Abortion protest airs opposing views

Pro choice advocates hold banners during a rally at Province Houses Saturday. Pro life protesters were also on hand with their banners. Guardian photo by Brian McInnis

Pro choice advocates hold banners during a rally at Province Houses Saturday. Pro life protesters were also on hand with their banners.

Published on November 20, 2011
Published on November 20, 2011
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed
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P.E.I. Reproductive Rights Organization , Province House , Life Association , Prince Edward Island , Charlottetown , Canada

Hundreds of Islanders demonstrated Saturday at Province House in Charlottetown, some rallying for abortion to be made available on P.E.I., others supporting a pro-life message.

Despite being polar opposites in both opinions and demonstrations, the two groups did not directly confront one another. Instead, they focused on publicizing their messages.

About 150 people supporting the pro-choice P.E.I. Reproductive Rights Organization (PRRO) rallied and cheered boisterously for speakers who addressed the crowd.

They called on the provincial government to change its policies and allow abortion services to be made available on P.E.I.

“We are not assembled here today to debate the morality that clouds the issue of abortion… we are here today to demand that right as our own,” PRRO member Kandace Hagan told the crowd.

“It’s time for local access to abortion services on Prince Edward Island,” Lisa Murphy of the P.E.I. Advisory Council on the Status of Women said, eliciting cheers from supporters.

Meanwhile, about 200 pro-lifers stood silently by, armed with their own signs, some of which depicted babies and fetuses.

They did not cheer or jeer. Their silent protest was meant to bring into the public conversation their belief abortion is morally wrong and should stay out of P.E.I.

“We’re here to say abortion is not OK,” said Greg Herbert, president of the P.E.I. Right to Life Association.

“Abortion ends the life of a developing human being, abortion hurts women, it causes irreparable harm to women… many women have emotional and psychological scars from the abortion and many women have physical difficulties,” said Ann Marie Tomlins.

Prince Edward Island is the only province in Canada that does not provide any abortion services. The procedure is not done in Island hospitals and there are no private clinics that offer the service in the province. Government does pay for off-Island hospital abortions, but only with a doctor referral.

Earlier this month, Health Minister Doug Currie said he had no plans to change the current provincial policies on abortion services.

But after weeks of local and national media shining a spotlight on the fact this health service is not offered in the province, Currie’s stance appears to has softened.

He said Friday he is willing to listen to both sides of the issue before deciding whether to make any changes.

On Saturday, both sides voiced their opinions.

Many of the pro-life protesters The Guardian spoke with cited religious beliefs as a major reason motivating them to fight against changes to P.E.I.’s abortion policies.

Alan Burke held a sign that read ‘end of days’ at the demonstration.

“It’s a spiritual and a moral matter and the people that here are sincere,” he said.

“The people who are pro-abortion are sincere too, but they’re sincerely wrong.”

Those who supported the lobby for access to abortion said they see this as a woman’s right to choose and a legal health service unavailable to Island women.

“Abortion is a legal right for women to have and the other side of the spectrum, it’s sort of too late for them. This has already been decided by the Supreme Court of Canada,” said Catherine Miller.

“It’s a legal right and our health care should provide it and it should be accessible for Island women.”

Green Party Leader Sharon Labchuk and NDP Leader James Rodd were among those who spoke in support of changes to the current policies.

The PRRO has requested a meeting with Currie to discuss its lobby for changes. On Saturday the P.E.I. Right to Life Association said it plans to also request a meeting with the minister.

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  • Username
    ENOUGH
    - November 26, 2011 at 12:02:02

    I am saddened by this article because being at that protest and knowing the reasons behind it this article just like EVERY other article posted about the issue has skewed the facts to make it seem as if there is this huge debate about abortion. It is not an abortion debate people, that debate was settled over 20 years ago when the supreme court rendered a verdict stating that abortions were no longer illegal. This is about access of information and rights for women who are pregnant so they can make the best choice for their personal situation. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs or the judgement of others, it's that woman's right, if she's in Ontario, Nunavut, Yukon, Nova Scotia, PEI has nothing to do with if she's pro-life or pro-choice, it's just that here on PEI it is much harder to get a publicly funded abortion than it is in other provinces. We don't have the resources or the information that is available to doctors or public. Again this debate is over, it's the changes in policy that these brave women are fighting for, and it's really disheartening that the media has allowed this to turn into a frenzy of comments attacking personal beliefs on both sides.

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    Jacqueline
    - November 22, 2011 at 13:32:57

    I am not going to convince anyone of anything on here...I know that as I write this sentence. There are men and women who are against abortion that are not religious and there are them that are. People who believe that we ourselves are responsible for our own actions. If I get pregnant with or without contraception this is a result of my actions. I had my son early in my life, 20. I was married, but it was a surprise. I struggled, I cried, I was not happy about it, I felt my life was over, I struggled emotionally most of the pregnancy.I secretly wished that I would miscarry in the beginning. I felt I wasn't ready. My husband was in University full-time and working part-time mostly night shifts. We had NO money. I worked full-time but my income was small. Taking maternity leave and having my income cut in half would not pay the bills and university debt we had on top of that. We did not have any kind of beliefs at that point in our life. But here we were "with child." I won't say it was easy but what I can tell you is this. This child celebrates his birthday this Thursday. He will be 19. He is an absolute "JOY" in my life. He was worth every single difficulty and then some. He is the only son that I have been given. What would my life be without him. I wouldn't want to entertain that thought for even a second,especially after his father was killed going on three years ago and my son,myself, and his three sisters were left to work out our grief and devastation together. Life is so precious. Take it from me who knows what it is to not want to be pregnant. Take it from me who knows what it is like to have a life destroyed in a minute. I found that people who are in charge of things in our Island don't really value life . They did not value the life of my husband and were more interested in sweeping things under the rug and sealing up the report on what happened to cause his death for 20 years. My experience is to not value life starts with the small things and then grows from there. A small almost invisible life, a young father of four, an elderly parent who is difficult to care for, a child, teen or an adult who has a disability. I think we are becoming a culture who is valuing life less and less. We really do not want to go where this is leading.We do not realize that the things that challenge us to our core, that cause us to have to be stretched beyond are not the things that ruin our lives but are the things that develop in us the depth of character that could not come to pass any other way. Then with this we can love others deeper, handle the difficult times, be there for someone else, and learn to think differently. Not just making a "choice" for the quickest way out but waiting and seeing things out and as I did realizing this was not the end of the my life...this was the essence of it.

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  • Username
    Enough Already
    - November 22, 2011 at 13:30:08

    Okay Guardian, how long are you going to stretch out this story which took place three days ago?? Surely there is something else going on in PEI?

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    Audrey Masselink
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:19:53

    Why not to have an abortion: - the death penalty was done away with long ago, so why re-instate it now? A fetus is alive, so why kill it? - The parents of the fetus had a choice; protect themselves from becoming pregnant or take the chance? If we commit a crime, should we not pay for it ourselves? - A soldier sometimes has to bring on death; we are not at war with a fetus, so why kill? -If a thief steals because he wants to have what others have, does that mean that stealing is OK? Would you rather be a thief than an honest man/woman? - Are we in this world to make it a better one or to let it degenerate? i.e. condone murder or prevent it?

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    people are fun
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:18:52

    1] If abortion is the taking of a life = then prosecute all the murderers as they can be defined no other way or spare us the hype 2] the planet has the resources for about 5 billion people, we are well past that. So wouldn't the mother who didn't abort her child want to give her child a chance of a decent life and limit births so there are enough resources? 3] why not simply put it to a vote on pei? up or down, the majority has final say the other hush themselves....oh yeah, the majority in every province think it should be available, so be careful how much you protest pro-lifers, you may get more attention on this subject then you want and gods help us if the majority has their say This subject always has as much to do with reality as reality tv. Some people say 'what if', but shouldn't it be 'why if'? Armond N

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  • Username
    Just thinking
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:18:12

    I don't like shell fish. I don't think anyone should eat shell fish. There are others like me. Does this mean that no shellfish should be sold on PEI or that you shouldn't eat it? And thinking about rights and freedoms there are individual rights in this country and you are free to make choices. However, in order to enoy the freedom of choice you have to be mentally competent to make that choice, Does a fetus have that capability and if not than who should make the choice on behalf of the fetus - the mother, the father or the state? Interesting? I don't have all the answers, do you? I do know, however, that unless I found myself in the position of having to make that choice I have no idea in the world what I would choose. Fortunately, I have never had to make the choice and I do not believe that it is an easy choice for anyone to make.

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  • Username
    Modern Age
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:18:05

    Time to step out of the Dark Ages. Just like Sunday shopping, we had to be dead last in the country to do something that the rest of the country did long ago. Resistance to change is a typical Island thing, but this change will come eventually despite some silly opposition I'm sure.

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    • Username
      Really
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:54:51

      You can't see a difference between abortion and Sunday shopping? When was the last time someone needed counciling because they spent one day not shopping? I think this is the point when things get silly.

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    rainbowlou
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:17:04

    I agree with Mary; I've often wished my mother had chosen abortion; she was ill equipped to be a mother; she had 3 of us and the abuse she subjected us to has left permanent scars on all of us and certainly has left me emotionally handicapped in spite of years of therapy. I believe in reincarnation and will be chosing a loving mother next time.

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    Look at it from my side.
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:16:32

    WOW! I can't believe that people are still fighting over the abortion issue. Yes I do see both sides of the coin and get it believe m!. You see 18 yrs ago I was given the choose of having a abortion or having the baby. If I was to carry on with the pregnancy I had a high risk of dying during childbirth. I had two other children at home . Leaving them at such young ages was not something I was willing to take a chance on. So being put in my situation , WHAT WOULD YOU DO? Sometimes there is a bigger story behind the reason than I just don't want to be pregnant. Yes I do grieve for that baby all the time , but Thank God that I've gotten to see my children grow up and be as wonderful as they are. Would not have missed it for the world.

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    Parva Sub Ingenti
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:16:25

    To 'Pro-Life and Not Christian'. Very well put! People read his/her post. And to add to it, why do people think PEI has to 'catch up' with the rest of Canada on this issue? As if abortion is a step forward for humanity. I mean, people come on, wouldn't a respect for human life be more of a step forward for humanity? I mean, it appears in today's society with our self-obsessed ways, we seem to want to make things like abortion and euthanasia more readily available rather than develop resources to assist people to a better life - or even a life to begin with. And for the longest time I was 'pro-choice'. But I am sorry, it just does not make sense. Choosing to end another's life is not 'pro-choice'. And Morgentaler's "Order of Canada' thingamajig should be renamed the "Dis-Order of Canada." Stay on track PEI. Someone has to lead the way. -Parva Sub Ingenti .

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    observer
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:14:52

    I would have a lot more respect for pro lifers if they would spend their time helping the children and adults who are already walking this world, so many of whom need so much help, instead of trying to protest a legal right in this country. (we should also reflect on the fact that in the past so called pro lifers have in fact murdered people and set fires...very pro life!)

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    Miss Direct
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:14:04

    Why are the numbers being published with this story? How many women are being referred off Island for the procedure? What are the demographics? How many are teens12-18? How many are 19-25? How many are 26+? How many are due to acts of violence? How many are referred to Halifax vs Fredericton? How many have had more than one not as a life saving procedure? If women on PEI had to pick a service offered on PEI over another would they perfer to have Hyserectomies and tubal ligation off island and abortions offered here? Why is it okay in custodial situations (for a minor under 18) to have this procedure without a parental concent but they cannot if it is a knee operation? In consenual settings, are the biological fathers made aware of the pregancies? It does take two, scientifically)

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  • Username
    Why are we listening
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:11:55

    Why should a small minority of right wing religious nutters have a say in a public policy that has been definitavely written in stone for all time?

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    John Baltic
    - November 21, 2011 at 22:08:10

    I wish every Islander would take the time to read the comments expressed here the last few days. They'd be shocked and saddened. We live in a time where the meaning of life is at all alltime low. What we do to our fellow man, let alone our children and pets, has never been more cruel. And yet, court system keeps showing incredible leniency. Imagine a world governed by the likes of Green Party and the NDP - we'd have every victim of crime incarcerated and every criminal vavished with the best rehab money could buy. We'd have more abortion clinics and drug shoot-up centers than medical clincis. Heck, every school age child would get a pack of condoms and be forced to join a union. It's a sick, sick world. The next time you are shocked by the viciousness of a crime, a story of a baby discarded like trash or what someone may have done to a defenseless animal, remember that there are those like the Greens, the NDP and Pro-Choice who do not share the same emotion in the least.

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  • Username
    Lets have it
    - November 21, 2011 at 21:52:31

    come on. let's see your proof. I want to see a breakdown of places across Canada showing all the places that perform abortions and how far a woman would have to travel to access the service. If any of this righteous indignation is to have any meaning, you had better show that there are no women anywhere in Canada that have to travel any significant distance at all. PEI does pay for abortions. If the traveling is the issue, you had better be able to prove that nowhere else in North America do women need to travel. That is your arguing point. I want to know if it is valid. Step up to the plate and give your evidence and not just your whining.

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    anon
    - November 21, 2011 at 21:51:22

    YOUR CHOICE WAS LAST NIGHT.

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    anon
    - November 21, 2011 at 19:57:01

    luke, the fact that you have no problem with polygomy tells me where you stand on women's rights.

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    • Username
      What
      - November 21, 2011 at 21:52:06

      That women should not have their sexuallity constrained by Puritanism and public sentiment?

    • Username
      Luke
      - November 22, 2011 at 11:06:21

      Anon - I'm all for womens rights, 100% (well, ok, i guess it would have to be 99%). However, I don't put any womens right to not be pregnant ahead a a babies right to live the life it has begun. Once a human life is created, I feel no-one should have the right to take that away from them, it's not theirs to take. As for polygomy - like I said, by choice, and if you're not hurting anyone else, is fine by me. It could take any number of forms, and who am I to judge. Polygomy not by choice is entirely different, which is I guess what you are getting at when you imply I'm against womens rights in general? Sorry, that's not the case.

  • Username
    Not impressed
    - November 21, 2011 at 19:49:15

    I encourage everyone to read the literature produced by both sides. I was slightly dismayed when I read a blog post stating how crisis councilling PRIOR to deciding to abort was immoral, but argued that it should be provided after the abortion takes place. Just look up the names of the organizations presenting their positions and google them. Don't just go by sound bites. Read.

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    • Username
      Lies
      - November 21, 2011 at 21:51:40

      It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that the religious will go to lie to get their way. No one would argue against providing various options for and against and allowing a woman to make a fully imformed decision that is the best option for the woman without having her make hasty or knee jerk reaction. No pro choice advocate would ever make such a statement.

    • Username
      not impressed
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:19:45

      Read. Don't assume and lash out. You might find that some sound bites don't always tell the whole story. I did. I'm not as sympathetic with certain groups once I looked closer.

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    Luke
    - November 21, 2011 at 15:37:18

    I am not at all religious in any way. Gay marriage - go for it; Polygamy - no problem; marajuana - enjoy; assisted suicide - by all means. I think people should have the right to do what they wish and what they feel is best for them, so long as they aren't hurting someone else. Who am I to decide what someone else should be doing? This stops short for abortion. I'm thinking that ending a developing human, against it's own will, which it would have had, for the sake of a) inconvenience for a few months, or b) embarassment for a few months?; is wrong. If you don't want to be a parent, give the child up for adoption, problem solved. I know it's the womans body, etc etc; but it's also the babys' body. Being inconveniently pregnant, by your own behaviour, for a few months should not trump a babies right to live. That's how I feel, and I will always consider "abortion" as a nice term for killing a baby.

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      John Baltic
      - November 21, 2011 at 19:58:19

      Kudos Luke for some well put rational thought. In a world where we have so many advances, freedoms and liberties, it is rather archiac to still be debating abortion. Unless for extreme medical reasons or situations such as rape, abortions should NOT be a taxpayers funded procedure. Abortions will always be a nice term describing the killing a child.

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    nancy
    - November 21, 2011 at 15:30:04

    Saying that P.E.I. should be a life santuary is simply saying that women who are unfortunate enough to be born and raised here do not have the same rights as every other woman in this country. This is a legal issue, not a moral one. Women in this province have a right to information about abortion, and abortion services. Currently they are provided with neither. If you don't like the idea of abortion, don't have one.

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    nancy manderson
    - November 21, 2011 at 15:27:32

    I am sick of hearing that there are plenty of people that would do anything to adopt a newborn. I sympathize with those that want children and are unable to produce offspring, it is really sad, but adopting doesn't change the fact that it is not your offspring. Biologically, adoption makes no sence. So to all those looking to adopt a baby why not adopt an older child instead? Why not become a foster parent and REALLY help the lives of many, many children? Get involved in big brother/big sisters, ect. Why not help the unwanted or underpriveledged children that are already in our world rather then hope that an unwanted baby will be born and you will get to raise it as your own. Is that really a fair thing to hope for? Is that a reason that I should allow my body to house a parasite (litteral definition, look it up) to live in me for nine months? And that I should pass my DNA, my bloodline, to you for you to feel like you have your DNA living for another generation? Nobody takes abortion lightly although I'm sure that you have heard horror stories about women that do, and you don't want to hear those stories in your back yard. I understand. But I am sick of the horror stories of women killing their unwanted children at birth or killing themselves while trying to secretely terminate a pregnancy. Trust the women in your province to make their own descision because that are legally entitled to that choice.

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    • Username
      Oh boy
      - November 21, 2011 at 19:49:03

      At one point women were not considered people, or people of colour. I suppose you would support treating them poorly because the law said they weren't persons?

  • Username
    Back to Reality
    - November 21, 2011 at 15:23:54

    Abortions are legal in Canada. It does not mean that the government "HAS" to provide abortion clinics in every province or territory!! It's legal for me to drive, should they get me a car? Lots of things are "LEGAL" but not necessary!! Come on people, get back to reality!!! I'm sure that if your doctor deemed it "Medically Necessary" to have an abortion, your doctor will see that the proper arrangements are made for you to be taken elsewhere to have it done, the same way with any other medical procedures. Most abortions however are not medically necessary, but are a choice. Most unwanted pregnancies result from a choice, not from a rape!!! The choice should be to use protection or don't have sex, hence no unwanted pregnancies, hence no abortions!!! The choice is ours. Time for everyone to start taking responsibility. It doesn't have to be illegal to be wrong. Spouse cheats on spouse.....illegal?....wrong?

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      Back to Reality
      - November 28, 2011 at 17:42:13

      @ AMANDA...... I am not discriminating against women by the statements I have made. I am a successful independent woman myself and believe fully in peoples rights, not just womens rights (including unborn babies). Not sure what you mean regarding why I get to choose and you don't!! The choice is for everyone to make for themselves. My position is that Pro-Choicers need to be taught that the time to choose is before the pregnancy happens. It is not the public's responsibility to make sure there are abortion clinics set up on every other street corner. If an abortion is medically necessary, your doctor will make arrangements on the mainland the same way several other medical procedures are done off Island. Your harsh statements and accusations do not sound very peaceful. Maybe you should take your own advice!!!

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      Amanda
      - November 25, 2011 at 20:52:13

      Yes, it is legal for you to drive and of course, the Government is not going to get you a car. But maybe it should make you go to the mainland to take your driver's test. Because in your words "it's legal, but not necessary" to have you take your test on PEI soil. The bottom line is this....we should be on equal ground with the rest of OUR Country and what is available in one Province should be available in all. If you don't want to have an abortion or you don't need to have one, then don't. It's as simple as that. The only people who make it difficult are people like you who seek to discriminate, judge and hinder the rights of women on PEI. One last thing, I find it amusing, you have used the phrase "the choice is ours"...what choice or choices are those? Why do you get to CHOSE what choices I can make? The Pro-Life argument and the radicals who actually kill and harm people in the name of their own cause need to get their heads out of their asses. This is a fight you will ultimately lose and if it makes you sleep at night knowing you prolonged it, so be it. I will sleep better at night, knowing the support and willingness to peacefully fight for the Pro-Choice cause will ultimately lead to freedom for women to CHOSE.

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    End the Dark Ages PEI
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:57:39

    Time for PEI to come out of the Dark Ages and get with the rest of the country. Abortions should be readily available for all. With 7 billion humans wandering around the planet gobbling up what little resources remain while pushing many other species into extinction, there is little chance of the human species dying out anytime soon. Allowing a handful of abortions instead of forcing young parents to have children they can not properly provide for and therefore keeping the vicious circle of poverty going for yet another generation makes perfect sense.

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    • Username
      Perhaps
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:16:13

      Good arguement. To extend that, if that is really your reason, we should start executing criminals and start a forced sterilization eugenics program.

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      Poverty
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:14:43

      Comparing a unintended motherhood on PEI to the level of poverty that is seen in most of the world is a good indication of the level of truth twisting that you see in some of the pro-abortion rhetoric.

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      Wtf
      - November 21, 2011 at 21:52:44

      what are you smoking? Do you really think people are stupid enough to believe that being pregnant on PEI is equivalent to the poverty seen in many places around the world? Call World Vision' and have them do a commerical about the debilitating poverty of the PEI pregnant woman. I'm sorry, but I doubt you understand what hardship is really about.

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    PEI Summer
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:43:34

    @ AGAINST ABORTION. You are wrong. This is NOT a Christian Province or Country. There is a seperation of church and state for just this reason. Whose religion or god would be the one to follow for the "law of God", as you put it. I certainly don't believe in your beliefs and if you choose to follow them aren't you lucky to be in a country that doesn't persecute you for that. But make no mistake, we do not follow any law but the law of the land.

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      There is a separation
      - November 21, 2011 at 15:25:37

      There is a separation of church and state specifically to prevent opposition to abortion? I don't think that is entirely accurate.

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    Alex Berns
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:41:51

    Yes, Yes, Yes give me all your unwanted children, i can and have the capacity to Love all children, especially those that you are so eager to discard. To Love is to be beautiful, to love someone else's child, my response to the only God who created you because of his Love for you. Please let me help you, before you support that which will destroy you for the rest of your life, because you will have taken away the ability of your child to be beautiful. You will suffer the painful memories of what you did for the rest of your life. There is help and there are resources available.

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      empty promise
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:10:30

      There are currently thousands upon thousands of Canadian children waiting to be adopted. Why don't you adopt a few hundred of them?

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    prolife and not christian
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:40:57

    It would be nice to see a debate where people (pro lifers) aer not dimissed clearly by the fact that a large number of pro life advocates are Christian. For a moment, lets remove religious belief and talk science for a moment. Why does the fetus not have a right to life? Because it is not human? Well cleary the fetus is human. Human + Human = Human. Two human beings that have sex can only produce another a human, I havent seen any half dog , half humans lately. (Before anyone goes nuts on this argument, it actually comes from a man who is pro choice...you need to know both sides) So, as a human does this unborn "clump of cells" have any rights? As a human out and about in the world I have rights, And in our current society if anyone tries to infringe on my rights , I can protest and be in a court room and have national media coverage? Why, because I had a right to education, I have a right to freedom of expression, opinion etc. The only reason I had these rights is because someone gave me life . The real question is "Is the unborn human a person?" When were African Americans recognized as persons, as well as Native Americans? Most importantly, open a history book and check when women were realised as persons in Canada.

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      sasha
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:10:19

      The question you are asking has already been answered under section 223 of the Criminal Code of Canada - fetus is a person "when it has completely proceeded, in a living state, from the body of its mother whether or not it has completely breathed, it has an independent circulation or the navel string is severed" - It does not get any more clear than that. You also raised a point about women being recognized and granted the rights as persons in Canada. This issues is far from over as it seems some people here still try to limit those rights in a moment woman becomes pregnant. This is what makes this entire no-abortion-on-the-Island issue so important. It is the last Canadian province where woman's recognition as a person and associated rights have an expiry date.

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    Nonreligious Prolifer
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:40:24

    Excuse me Canadian First, all prolifers' beliefs are NOT based on old fashioned religious beliefs. My beliefs are based on the fact that by 6 weeks a developing baby's heart has begun to beat and by 10 weeks it has begun to move. Who has the right to say that this isn't a human and does not deserve to live?

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      Prolifer
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:16:01

      the mother. you folks don't listen.

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    Brenda Green
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:40:04

    It saddens my heart to think that our small Island has become so engulfed in worldly comforts that we forget there are many people who would do almost anything "legal" to cradle a small baby in their arms ,hold it in their hearts and Love it.There are countries where you can live and have your needs met.Please do not degrade our Families and our historic foundation with a law which says"You can Kill"Thanks

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    AnneO'nymus
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:39:16

    I recently heard a story about girl who sought psychological help after having an abortion. This story took place in Florida USA. in the office where she was she seen a map of PEI on the wall; she asked where this was, and what significance there was to having this map? The woman at the office replied that she was not 100% sure where this place was either, but explained that this is the only place left in North America that does not offer Abortions. There's no reason why PEI has to be like everywhere else in the world... well lets face it....were not... and we probably never will be. Now I am Pro-Life... but that's not how I'm basing my comment... why not (from an economic perspective) be that place that people see as "standing out in the crowd". Perhaps tourism will increase and benefit everyone?

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      I hope you're joking
      - November 21, 2011 at 15:27:57

      You think being the only place in North America that doesn't provide abortions will increase tourism?

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    Disgusted
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:37:28

    Women have the full right to do what they want to THEIR OWN bodies. Not their CHILDREN'S bodies! How hard is that to understand? You have no more right to murder your toddler than you do your preborn. Just because the government says you can do it doesn't make it right. It wasn't right when blacks and women were persecuted, and it isn't right now. Having an abortion doesn't make you unpregnant. It make you the mother of a dead baby.

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      save your breath
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:09:25

      Those you want to talk to aren't open minded to get past their sloganism and debate the actual issue. If they did, people might actually start to think about it. They will keep characterizing it as a choice issue so no one will think much on exaclty what the choice is to do.

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    Andrew
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:35:27

    I'm not religious and I'm pro-life. One poster said pro-lifers are all religious people, not true. I'm pro life, athiest, two children, used to be liberal when I was in college. I only call myself pro life, really I'm for women having access to abortion, but certainly not easy access. I've figured out that most liberals don't realize, or won't realize, that its not women who are being raped or abused that need this access on PEI, its the young girls who are going to use it as a form a birth control. That I disagree with. Don't be a fool and deny it, some young women get three or five abortions throughout their lives now, that's what the pro choice movement is now fighting for. They're fighting for easy access, not access, and when taking a future life, I don't think the choice should be made easy. Sorry to those who want this on every corner, but abortions affect more than just the mother. Don't make it about women's rights, they had the same right as the man who now has no choice.

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    Miss Direct
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:35:06

    Sometimes I cannot believe people believe their own rhetoric. Abortions are available and no one get arressted for having them. In a medical sense, like the rest of PEI Healthcare services, you have have to go to the mainland to have the proceedure. Like other medical proceedures that are not physically (not socailly) life threatening you will have to pay up front and if your secondary health insurance won't pay for it you can claim it on you taxes and really not be reimbursed for it. Otherwise you get sent in an amblance to a health care facility off island then the province picks the tab up, sort of. If the goal is just to have the proceedure here on PEI, do you know which other health care service will be moved off island or the wait times will be increase becasue of OR use? Good thing Abortions are done in the Maritimes instead of lung transplants because then you would have to go to Toronto to have one.

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    Funny
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:33:46

    It's funny how the people who are against abortion for religious reasons are the same people who are wary to accept Muslims for fear of their Sharia laws.... But really, all you fundamentalists are all the same.

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      back that up
      - November 21, 2011 at 15:36:13

      you couldn't be more wrong even if you got help to be more wrong.

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    John W.A. Curtis
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:33:07

    I'm not a feminist but it is time for aborations to be performed on Prince Edward Island. Many people support P.E.I. as a gentle Island crap. It is time our province gets with the rest of Canada.

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      I think
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:15:48

      I think more heart surgeries should be done on PEI, but I guess it is better to let people die than to have abortions less convenient than getting a dental appointment.

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    would never personally choose abortion
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:32:42

    I would never be able to choose abortion as I would never be able to decide when the entity living in my womb was not a human being. But I guess it is legal in Canada. Our politicians have decided they know when the entity in women's wombs is a human. So people on PEI have a legal right to abort. Many medical services are not available on PEI. As long as people get the full information from their medical doctor re: the process for getting this service and the support available from our province - what's the problem. I think the couple of hundred people demanding abortions be available on PEI are a bit strident on this issue.

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    Conservative
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:32:24

    You wouldn't have the ability to grow and be free if you were aborted. Just saying.

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      Ann Wright
      - November 21, 2011 at 22:15:07

      Oh my word, and guess what, you can't miss "being" if you've never were. Just saying.

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    Change is coming
    - November 21, 2011 at 09:32:11

    This is about the law, period. And now that anti-abortionists have discovered that the government has been funding abortions in Halifax all along, they're going to try to have that stopped too, which is great, because it'll demolish the status quo and force the government to choose between breaking the law in order to appease its religious base, or upholding the law and catching up with the rest of the country. I hope the media catches up and stops wasting time on the irrelevant moral debate -although I must admit that End of Days guy was pretty good!

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    Bella
    - November 20, 2011 at 23:56:55

    OMG-It's 2011 all women need and should have The Right to decide and have access to safe abortion and No prescription required "morning after" pharmacuticals, kept behind pharmacies prescription counters. I know PEI is backward but this is ridiculous. How many PEI & NS ProLife advocates have and continue to verbally abuse-gossip about women who chose to continue their pregnancey and keep their child or with their child are forced to leave violent enviroments to find they Need to access absolutley inadequate morally degrading Island & town equally small minded NovaScotia? For too many abused women , especially those with no family support, the Abuse they leave is nothing compared to the Abuse by S.S & equally as ignorant community society of hypocrites - gossip-troublemakers They Will experience. These women Chose NOT TO Abort, what choice have You made to personally Help disadvantaged women & children with your Time and-or Resources?

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    Thaddeus Sholto
    - November 20, 2011 at 23:56:42

    Against Abortion, with your strong stand against abortion I would guess you have adopted and/or are fostering many unwanted children from the social services agencies. I mean being the good Christian you claim, it would just make sense you would want to help as many children as possible by taking them into your home.

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      For capital punishment
      - November 21, 2011 at 09:46:00

      Maybe people who are against capital punishment should let mass murderers move in with them. if you don"t want to kill them, you should have to take care of them yourself.

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    Against ABORTION
    - November 20, 2011 at 23:50:52

    As A CHRISTIAN Province and CHRISTIAN COUNTRY , Our Leaders liberal or Conservative, Are obligated by law of God, The law of the land and we who elected them to abide by those laws, For those that feel it necessary to KILL a fetus, Go off Island. Live with the fact you KILLED a small child. What is the difference that to kill a 1 year old,,5 years old , a teen ager you are having difficulty with etc. Why should I and other help you pay to Kill a baby within... We do not wish to be any part of your crime... Therefore we should not be forced to pay for abortions on this province.... Thank You Mr.Currie, For your RESPECT of HUMAM BABies and the peoples wishes that voted you into office....

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      turntechGodhead
      - November 21, 2011 at 09:37:33

      "As A CHRISTIAN Province and CHRISTIAN COUNTRY" Wrong right out of the gate.

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    something to think about
    - November 20, 2011 at 23:49:31

    This topic will ALWAYS be debated forever and argued to exhaustion, but one comment I have is Choose Life, Your Mother Did! Something to think about.

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      mary
      - November 21, 2011 at 09:37:38

      I really wish my mother chose an abortion. so emotioanally distraught and doesn't know how to raise a freaking child.

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    Canadian first
    - November 20, 2011 at 23:49:23

    All pro-lifers' beliefs are based on old fashioned religious beiiefs: I too believed in such thoughts, until I woke up gradually and realized and had the guts to say to myself: I did not come to this place to regurgitate. I came to create and expand. And then growth and freedom began.

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      Seriously
      - November 21, 2011 at 09:39:54

      Seriously. You actually believe that every single thing that a person believes is an old fashioned religious belief (which I notice you didn't say was wrong) unless they are pro-abortion? There are absolutely no idea in the broad spectrum of ideas that a pro-abortionist and and pro-lifer share, because if there was the pro-abortionist must have old fashioned religious beliefs. You might want to give that assertion a little more working on. Interesting that you have to be religious (and old fashioned) not to consider killing someone because they are inconvenient the wrong thing to do. I guess the next thing we'll see is advocation of orphan massacres, because obvioulsy no one wants them and they are a drain on society. How about hanging theives? After all, not killing inconvenient people is just old fashioned.

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