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  • RESPECT
    November 16, 2011 - 14:27

    ANGER, INSULTS, CHILDISH DETERMINATION and just plain COLDNESS seem to be the major theme of those requesting legalized abortion on PEI . I fail to understand why those who write do so with such a vengenance. The suggestion to picket the premier's private residence reminded me of a rather spoiled child, who makes a threat to get his or her own way. There seems to be no respect for those who have differing beliefs. Are those who CHOOSE to support life not FREE to do so? Were we not part of what our soldiers fought for?? Are medical care providers not free to follow their concience. What about their Hippocratic oath? If their belief is that the unborn child is a person, HOW can they be expected to recommend abortion,,when their belief is killing. This group seems so unhappy about everything...I believe all need to calm down and to think of all the requests........We are all entitled to our beliefs and should not be berated for expressing them. WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE what we say and the freedom to say it. EVEN MEDICAL CARE PROVIDERS have the right to make decisions based on their own concience....... Loud angry,nasty threats only divide a society like PEI. From a woman who cares for you all

  • YouAreWrong
    November 11, 2011 - 21:56

    I'm sure you have your own opinion about abortion, and it doesn't matter what I say, your views wont change. But how can you possibly believe that anyone should have the right to end a human life? There are so many other ways around it, atleast give the child you produced a chance. After all, it is your fault they exist. It's your fault they are now alive. I bet if you waited till that baby you're about to kill has the ability to talk, and ask them if they would have wanted to be aborted, they would say no. Who are you to take the life of another human being. If we get an abortion clinic in PEI, we should stop investigating murders. We should all just run around on the streets killing people, because the opening of an abortion clinic on PEI would make that justifiable. That's what abortion is. Abortion is murder. You can tell yourself a million lies, tell yourself it's just a bundle of cells to make yourself feel better. But those of you who tell yourselves that, are selfish and heartless baby killers. Abortion should be illegal. It should be gone, it should have never existed. Babies are a blessing. Maybe you don't want it. Give it up for adoption. Atleast it will have a better life with a family who is happy to have it, than in a hospital waste bin.

  • YouAreWrong
    November 11, 2011 - 21:55

    I'm sure you have your own opinion about abortion, and it doesn't matter what I say, your views wont change. But how can you possibly believe that anyone should have the right to end a human life? There are so many other ways around it, atleast give the child you produced a chance. After all, it is your fault they exist. It's your fault they are now alive. I bet if you waited till that baby you're about to kill has the ability to talk, and ask them if they would have wanted to be aborted, they would say no. Who are you to take the life of another human being. If we get an abortion clinic in PEI, we should stop investigating murders. We should all just run around on the streets killing people, because the opening of an abortion clinic on PEI would make that justifiable. That's what abortion is. Abortion is murder. You can tell yourself a million lies, tell yourself it's just a bundle of cells to make yourself feel better. But those of you who tell yourselves that, are selfish and heartless baby killers. Abortion should be illegal. It should be gone, it should have never existed. Babies are a blessing. Maybe you don't want it. Give it up for adoption. Atleast it will have a better life with a family who is happy to have it, than in a hospital waste bin.

  • Not an excuse
    November 09, 2011 - 18:50

    I'd like to point out that each of the territories provides abortion services at one of their hospitals, despite having under-funded healthcare programs. People from these areas regularly have to travel to Vancouver, Edmonton, or Toronto to get specialized care, but the hospitals can handle abortions. They are not major procedures. This excuse is a cop-out.

    • good point
      November 10, 2011 - 20:01

      Excellent point. If the territories, having a quarter the population of PEI, can do this, then obviously the PEI government's refusal to provide abortion services in PEI is an ideological and political position. That is inexcusable and I would encourage people to picket in front of Robert Ghiz's house at 42 Prince Charles Drive, day and night, until he brings about a change. This Victorian era Anne of Green Gables mentality on PEI has got to go.

  • OH PUHLEEZE
    November 09, 2011 - 16:26

    Two things: don't use that amazingly greedy argument that it's not right to tell someone that they can't choose what to do with their own body. It isn't their body but someone else's body. Secondly, don't use the "rape" argument because for the most part this topic is about post-conception birth-control for people who can't keep it in their pants, or their legs shut until they get to a drug-store.

  • islander
    November 09, 2011 - 14:23

    The provincial government does cover the cost of the procedure off-Island, but only when done in a hospital and if a woman has been referred by a doctor. why are people complaining its covered if refered by a doctor also if you can't afford birth control tell your dr they do have samples they can provide also planned parenthood offers birth control. instead of abortion why not give the baby to a couple who can't have a child. why should my tax dollars pay for someone to have an abortion because they were too damn lazy to take a pill if you dont want kids get your tubes tied its free and covered by the gov't

  • denying a service
    November 09, 2011 - 14:03

    20 years ago it was religious /political .... today it is political football for the govt..the religious aspect has changed except for the die hards due to the dying influence of church's....they are still using religious blackmail scaring the govt to not take any action...who are afraid to lose votes.....when in reality your dealing with the rights of a person who makes up 51 % of our population..women........it is just a small surgical procedure ..whether here or timbucto..why deny island women that right ..yes it is a right.....and middle aged white males should not be denying it...

  • Concerned
    November 09, 2011 - 13:46

    I have to say that I agree with Mommy-To-Be & MEJ..... a lot of "vital" health care services are not available in PEI and personally I would prefer to see some of these services implemented in our health care system vs abortion. As for those of your griping about the cost of an abortion and the "inconvenience" of out of province travel... I have a few words of advice to you.... "CONDOMS are pretty cheap"! I believe that if abortions were readily available in PEI, there would be a lot of people running out and having them without really thinking about their actions and any long term effects that they may cause the woman having it done.

    • SURPRISE
      November 09, 2011 - 19:23

      Condoms don't always work.

  • Kara
    November 09, 2011 - 13:28

    I was pro choice for many years until I started working in the healthcare system and realized how much this service is being taken advantage of and used as some sort of birth control. I do believe a woman has a right to choose and I am sure it is very difficult for many but if you knew the actual statistics on the amount of women that have abortions, multiple times, it's down right disturbing. What ever happened to all the birth control options out there? Does many take those into consideration first?

    • IsThisRealLife
      November 09, 2011 - 14:12

      "I do believe a woman has a right to choose" That means you are pro choice. This has nothing to do with if you are for or against abortion really... this is about if females on PEI should have the same rights as females in other provinces.

    • Still Waiting
      November 09, 2011 - 19:19

      Agreed - then give us birth control that works - not waiting over a year for an IUD would be a start! The PEI gov't does not care about women's health.

  • Wallace Cameron
    November 09, 2011 - 12:49

    I would suggest that many of you sanctimonious posters who don't support a woman's right to control her own body because of religious beliefs and then brae about the sanctity of human life would also throw your teenage daughter out onto the street if she came home pregnant.

    • AND YOU WOULD BE WRONG
      November 09, 2011 - 16:18

      Just Plain Wrong.

  • Cindy
    November 09, 2011 - 12:43

    Many people touting that all medical procedures can be done off-Island, this is a FIVE MINUTE procedure that was routinely performed here 20 years ago! And then they abolished it. It makes no sense to go backwards.

    • Nope
      November 09, 2011 - 16:16

      This was not done routinely 20 years ago, or ever, in PEI. The closest we came was medical emergency referrals to Halifax.

  • Peggy
    November 09, 2011 - 12:36

    Thank you God, we have a government that will support the unborn baby. I read about this like it is something that just happens. This is not the unborn baby's responsible. If someone is going to take part in the sex act, the two people taking part in this act are responsible. I know there are so many thing available to prevent bringing an unwanted child into this world, before the fact. If you are going to act like and adult take responsibility. We are not responsible for your choices you are not the innocent beautiful life you would like to take.

    • pat
      November 09, 2011 - 13:01

      What about the people that have sex but cannot afford to raise a child? Should they NOT have sex? If that's your point, then you're stating that you support class warfare and that only the wealthy should be having sex and that the poor should not because they cannot afford the consequences. I bet you're the same type of people that would say that a girl who dresses a certain way is "asking" to be raped.

  • Wilkins Micawber
    November 09, 2011 - 12:27

    Despite what Currie says, it is all about votes and politics. It is not about costs or some lofty principle. It is politics. If polls suddenly showed the majority of Islanders were in favour of abortions being done on P.E.I., the government would see to it that a clinic opened the next day. So until a majority of Islanders voice their approval of abortion neither the Liberals nor Tories will touch the issue. Like most governments and politicians, the Liberal government here does not care about the plight of women needing a necessary health procedure and if Crane and her party were in government it would be the same. Votes will always trump good governance. The only policy a government really understands is one that will win them the next election.

  • ArmsofanAngel
    November 09, 2011 - 12:02

    Making abortion easier and more accessible is a grave gave error. One that will continue to mar humankind forever. We are moving towards a society that makes euthanasia and abortion easier and easier, and that, well that is downright frightening. A women's issue? Sorry, it's a 'Life' issue. The child being terminated in a murder that some will so lightly call a 'procedure' may grow into being a man, or maybe a woman, if given the chance. Again, it's a 'Life' issue. Correct me if I am wrong, but hadn't Sarah McLachlan's mother considered aborting her at one point? I'm certain I heard that on a documentary a few months back. If so, and had that abortion clinic been within arm's reach, well,I'm sorry but I do love that song "In the Arms of an Angel.' And I am happy she was spared so she could give it to us. Abortion is a clear indication of the spirtual demise of a culture that now considers killing as a 'procedure'. (BTW: I was pro-abortion for many years. I didn't realize that I hadn't thought about it enough. I just went along with what was popular. And now I am at a mature enough age to say, "I was wrong.")

  • shera duff
    November 09, 2011 - 11:54

    During the 1800's an herbal concoction of pennyroyal, blue cohosh root and tansy leaves left women with peace of mind that they would not carry to term their unwanted fetus. Administered by herbalist or midwife assured them with follow up care. In the 1900's it was the deaths of countless girls and women that lead to the rights we have today. Unfortunately, we have little to none followup care. Instead doctors prescribe Birth Control pills regulating of our cycles, a Morning After pill when ingested within 72 hours of the possibility that we may think we are pregnant will prevent fertilization, there are condoms for both sexes, coil or diaphragm can be fitted yet only if we seek these alternatives are they available. There has always been the moral conundrum of women seeking abortions or avoiding pregnancies but when the legal right to a medial procedure terminating the unwanted is prohibited there is cause for action.

  • Dan
    November 09, 2011 - 11:48

    This is such a joke non-issue. Not every single service is going to be accessible 3 miles down the road. Everyone outside a major city needs to drive a few hours for an abortion. And they have to pay highway tolls, parking, fuel, and deal with the regional issues they're faced with the same as people from PEI. It is such a silly argument to demand that every single medical service be available within a stones throw of your front porch. What's next? Demanding that someone make a carribean vacation spot closer, too?

    • Proud
      November 09, 2011 - 13:28

      Yes many islanders do have to leave the island for procedures. However, they do not have to pay for the procedure to be done in the hospital when they get there. And I am sure that many islanders would be outraged if they were sent to Halifax, asked to pay for the procedure and travel expenses when all the tools and resources are available in their home province. To compare an abortion to a Carribean vacation is disgusting.

  • Mens Rights
    November 09, 2011 - 10:52

    This group is an absolute joke. "But Wight said it’s an issue of equality and the rights of women on P.E.I." Give me a break. Where are the men's rights in all of this? If the man wants the child, should he be able to make that choice? After all, if a man didn't want the child, but the woman did, he'd be liable for child support. In my opinion, the only time an abortion should be made available is when 2 doctor's deem it unsafe for the woman to carry or for a rape victim. Women that use abortions as a form of birth control need to close their legs and stop having sex. Grow up and stop taking the easy way out! This group needs to realize that not everything is a "women's rights issue". This issue certainly has nothing to do with women's rights.

    • saying it like it is
      November 09, 2011 - 11:58

      ''MEN'S RIGHTS'' said ''Where are the men's rights in all of this?'' ........................ It's that little thing dangling right there between your thighs.

    • Wiggins
      November 09, 2011 - 12:39

      MENS RIGHTS, Until it is biological possible for men to carry a baby and then give birth we have no say and that is how it should be. What right do you have to dictate to a woman what she can and cannot do with her body? With your attitude I hope you are single and not planning to have children and any woman within 10 feet of you should run very fast in the other direction.

  • Mell
    November 09, 2011 - 10:31

    Forget abortion procedures, people that need angiograms, stents, or other heart procedures have to go off island to get it done. PEI is a province in Canada that has not kept up with the country and lacks medical attention badly.

  • Mommy-to-be
    November 09, 2011 - 10:14

    Not saying I support Abortion, but, if someone chooses to seek that 'service' they should go to where there is a clinic in Fredericton or Halifax. There are numerous healthcare services that that are not available on PEI through our public health care system. Frankly, if the province were able to bring more healthcare services to PEI, Abortion would be found at the bottom of the priority list. Not to be rude, but abortion is not a "vital service", and you won't die if you go with out this service... in fact you'll save a life. There are so many (services) that could save&sustain lives and the Province is doing its best, at this time, to make them more accessible to Islanders. [ As for the arguements of"It’s only accessible for people who have the money and who have the stability to go and take a bunch of time and go to Halifax and get this kind of quick procedure and then have to deal with that, and that’s a lot. “And it is really expensive,”] No sympathy here!! How many families have had to travel (frequently and sometimes for long durations) to the IWK in Halifax? Many of the services provided there are not available on PEI, and often times individuals and families are referred by their MD to a Specialist or Doctor at the IWK. These trips (most often times unexpected) can be emotionally and financially straining on most families. Islanders understand that we do not have the population/financial means as of now, to support such a facility on PEI. It would be wonderful if we could. I myself, have had to make 3 very unexpected trips during my pregnancy to the IWK in Halifax, on very short notice, with each trip costing us over $200 with the cost of the bridge and gas, parking and food. I am not out in the media and holding a rally for the government to pay for our expenses. If you need a service that bad, unfortunately , like the rest of us, you'll find a way to pay for it, (or save your $600 +expenses, keep the child and put the baby up for adoption to one of the thousands of families on PEI who would love to, but can not, conceive a child).

  • mommy-to-be
    November 09, 2011 - 10:09

    Not saying I support Abortion, but, if someone chooses to seek that 'service' they should go to where there is a clinic in Fredericton or Halifax. There are numerous healthcare services that that are not available on PEI through our public health care system. Frankly, if the province were able to bring more healthcare services to PEI, Abortion would be found at the bottom of the priority list. Not to be rude, but abortion is not a "vital service", and you won't die if you go with out this service... in fact you'll save a life. There are so many (services) that could save&sustain lives and the Province is doing its best, at this time, to make them more accessible to Islanders. [ As for the arguements of"It’s only accessible for people who have the money and who have the stability to go and take a bunch of time and go to Halifax and get this kind of quick procedure and then have to deal with that, and that’s a lot. “And it is really expensive,”] No sympathy here!! How many families have had to travel (frequently and sometimes for long durations) to the IWK in Halifax? Many of the services provided there are not available on PEI, and often times individuals and families are referred by their MD to a Specialist or Doctor at the IWK. These trips (most often times unexpected) can be emotionally and financially straining on most families. Islanders understand that we do not have the population/financial means as of now, to support such a facility on PEI. It would be wonderful if we could. I myself, have had to make 3 very unexpected trips during my pregnancy to the IWK in Halifax, on very short notice, with each trip costing us over $200 with the cost of the bridge and gas, parking and food. I am not out in the media and holding a rally for the government to pay for our expenses. If you need a service that bad, find a way to pay for it, (or save your $600 +expenses, keep the child and put the baby up for adoption to one of the thousands of families on PEI who would love to, but can not, conceive a child).

  • Seriously
    November 09, 2011 - 09:56

    I am sick and tired of people telling females and their partners what they can and cannot do with their bodies. It's safer to either cover abortions at free standing clinics or provide the chance to have it done here. Because for couples who cannot afford a to travel to safe and proper clinic, they are more likely to go to some sketchy place to get the procedure done. Which will end up causing more damage. If your parents kept you kudos to them, but I refuse to have someone tell me that I have to keep a fetus in me that doesn't even really exist yet. It's my choice and my life. It's 2011, which means it's time to stop being so closed minded about life.

    • Occupy Charlottetown
      November 09, 2011 - 11:55

      Likewise. I am sick and tired of people telling sick kids to go to the IWK in Halifax. I demand they build another IWK in Charlottetown. And one in Summerside, Montague, Tignish, and Souris too! Hospitals are guaranteed. Health care is free in Canada. It doesn't cost anyone anything. Not even the government. Abortions everywhere!

  • rOB
    November 09, 2011 - 09:31

    someone should challenge this in the courts.

    • agreed
      November 09, 2011 - 11:56

      I completely agree. As a guy from PEI it embarrasses me to no end that this province is so completely backwards and has its head up the a$$ of the Catholic church (and other ones). If ROBERT GHIZ and MIKE CURRIE can afford to waste $30 million of taxpayer money on an ugly bankrupt hotel and another $17 million of taxpayer money on a convention centre in an area that floods, then surely these two MEN they can fund abortion services for the women of this province who comprise 50% of the population. The misogynistic hick government of PEI is consistently the laughingstock of Canada. We should not stand for this cr@p any longer.

  • mistakes
    November 09, 2011 - 09:18

    A pregnancy due to rape is not a mistake or mishap, right?

  • StillWaiting
    November 09, 2011 - 09:18

    I have been on a waiting list for an IUD for OVER ONE YEAR with over 50 other Island women. One type of IUD, as birth control, is over 99% effective. Some women require it to help with pain and bleeding. If the PEI government actually cares about women's health, it will speed up the wait times for what they consider to be "non-essential" procedures and reduce the need for abortions.

    • TO Stillwaiting
      November 09, 2011 - 09:23

      There IS another method that is 100% effective. If you do not know what it is...then maybe you should find the word 'abstinence' in your dictionary.

  • Honestly
    November 09, 2011 - 09:17

    Unfortunately I am one of many Islanders who are not able to have children of my own. My spouse and I both have great paying jobs but we still can not afford the $10,000 plus that it cost to have the IVF procedure done. We would love to be able to adopt a young child, it could be an infant or a toddler, but for us to adopt an infant the time frame is upwards of 5 years. If we were to go by the same logic on other provinces paying for abortion what I would like to point out is simply this, Quebec pays for IVF, if we use the logic that since they (another province) covers the treatment, shouldn't the Island? Yet a while back, there was an article on this very website where there were negative comments about infertile couples looking to have the IVF funded claiming the Island couldn't afford to help us out.

  • Seriously Folks
    November 09, 2011 - 09:08

    MEJ- No one cares about your judgmental opinion and I'm happy to hear that to avoid unwanted pregnancy you won't be having sex. Abortion is legal and PEI is required to provide medical services. Abortion is a safe, simple procedure when it doesn't involve travel, unnecessary stress and the financial hardship of the patient.

    • mej
      November 09, 2011 - 09:59

      On the contrary @seriously I am not refraining from having sex, what I am saying is that I go into it knowing the risks and am quite prepared to welcome a new life into the world if that is what happens!!! I wasn't being judgmental, I was just stating that too many women use abortion as a form of birth control, but thanks for your opinion, and don't forget to thank a veteran for the right to express it!!!

  • ThisIsForever
    November 09, 2011 - 09:02

    I am very proud of PRRO! Very excited for the Rally on the 19th :) The bottom line is that abortion is legal in Canada, and as Canadian residents, Prince Edward Island women should be given access to the option of having a safely terminated pregnancy in their home province.

    • Get real
      November 09, 2011 - 11:51

      They DO have access to it. Just like we all have access to the IWK... which is in Halifax. We all have access to the experts in Fredericton, Moncton, and other nearby hospitals. Just because the lake isn't in your backyard doesn't mean you don't have access to water.

  • Treating the Symptom
    November 09, 2011 - 09:01

    Yet another article describing a treatment of the symptom instead of treating the cause. When groups use the media to try and strongarm the government into funding them....they lose credability immediately.

  • mej
    November 09, 2011 - 08:48

    Abortion should not be thought of as a birth control method. When you become sexually active, you risk pregnancy. I have heard all the arguments, like, "its my body" and "I have the right to choose what I do with my body". What about the fathers? Do they not have the right to choose as well? What about the unborn child? Do they have a right to choose? Or "I was using birth control but got pregnant anyway" Well if you choose to have intercourse, then you have to live with the risks. If your pregnancy was unplanned, Im sure that there are many couples who are wanting to adopt because they unfortunatly could not conceive. Im very thankful that my mother kept me and my 7 siblings, we may not have had much, but we always had "love"!!

  • Father
    November 09, 2011 - 08:42

    Do not have sex, if do not want to have a child, there is no such thing as a mishap or a mistake, you and your partner made the decision to do what you did. 100% agree with no Abortion on PEI great job PEI GOV, travel off the Island and charge them as much as possible for taking gods choice out of his hands. I've had 2 children at a very young age and not once did I think on running, or Abortion. There are pros and cons to this situation put when it involves a life the pros should overcome the cons.The P.E.I. Reproductive Rights Organization Either are only listening to the little red fella on there shoulders and not looking at the pros.

    • Seriously Folks
      November 09, 2011 - 09:15

      So, you have had sex twice and have two children that you refer to in the past tense. If you have had sex more than twice you may be much closer to this debate than you realize. Women will have abortions when they need them and in Canada they are legal and should be safe.

    • jon
      November 09, 2011 - 11:02

      It's not "gods" choice to make. Fictional characters have no say in what a woman does with HER body.

    • pressure or no pressure
      November 09, 2011 - 12:03

      Face it - human beings just like any other species are programmed to have sex. Sex leads to pregnancy if you don't use contraception. Unfortunately for contraception there are institutions like the Roman Catholic Church that guilt many vulnerable people into not using it. Then you see some young women who get pregnant unintentionally, especially teenage girls and those with mental disabilities, who are pressured into sex by their dates or common law spouses - you name it - and they don't have the ability physically or otherwise to stop the act. Men use their power at all costs to have sex and spread their DNA. Women are stuck with the consequences.

  • Seriously Folks
    November 09, 2011 - 08:41

    If it was about the money, the Province would be encouraging abortions. They are a lot cheaper than obstetrics!