Pilot project aims to rid city park of noisy crows
The Guardian
The City of Charlottetown is launching a pilot project aimed at breaking up large groups of crows that gather for loud, messy morning and evening roosts in the neighborhoods surrounding Victoria Park each fall and winter.
After many complaints from residents weary of the noise and mess the birds create, the city is trying a novel approach.
Starting next week, select residents will be able to sign-out a variety of devices aimed at dispersing the birds. Strobe lights, Phoenix Wailers that play recordings of hawks, eagles and gunshots, CDs and owl whistles — all hoped to strike fear in the heart of the nearly 10,000 crows that have been roosting at Victoria Park — will be available.
Residents will be able to borrow one of the city’s two stationary wailers, which emit 95 seconds of natural sounds and 100 electronic sounds, for a 30-day period. They will be asked to record crow activity near their home for a week before they get the unit, then keep track of how that changes over the next month.
A Parks and Recreation employee will check in with them weekly to collect their data.
In combating the problem, the city wanted to balance residents’ concerns with respect for wildlife. Crows have roosted in Victoria Park for more than a century, said Parks and Recreation Manager Sue Hendricken.
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Scott from PEI writes: So let me get this straight, they are going to try to cut down on noisy crows with more noise?
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As a crow flies from pe writes: This is better than 'relocating' them to that...er...farm where the urban skunks have been relocated to all these years.
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ken from chtown, pei writes: If they think that will work the crows are smarter than the bird brain that came up with that idea.
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MonsteR from pei writes: How redicouless is this?Are those chosen ones actually high enough on their own esteem to think they can now control nature as well?So we should help them to drive the crows out of a natural greenspace and into our own backyards?And how would they react to the COMMON people if we were the ones that had their problem?They wouldnt care a less about the rest of us.The only justice here is that the crows move from the park into the lush trees of snob hill.If that happens then what?Still not our problem...they (the disturbed resident)had better be paying for this themselves.If the whole city has to pay so they can have peace and quiet,then waht do we get in return for paying for their extavagence's?
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truth from pei writes: The only way to get rid of crows is to hang a dead crow in a tree. I am not condoning killing the crow but maybe find one that died naturally. This advice was given by a wildlife biologist
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Robert from Prince Edward Island writes: I understand the concerns for the people living in the area however now that they are making the crows move to another location ..... I live just outside of Charlottetown and now we have a problem with noisy messy crows in our area.....my question is how are they going to get rid of the problem
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WoW from pei writes: Victoria park is off limits to any event or noise,too many people,and now crows ...What the h@## is wrong with this Island?Do the people who live there have any other complaints?Is it to windy and cold by the water?Can we not get rid of that for them to?
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bonbon from pei writes: Take a couple of hunters add two guns and 10 or 15 boxes of shotgun shells and it will be quieter after a couple of hours. It may sound nasty.... but get real people.... they are a pain in the ..... ears.
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sick from the drink writes: So the crows are too noisy, and to tackle this problem residents are going to use strobe lights and Phoenix Wailers that play recordings of hawks, eagles and gunshots, CDs and owl whistles . Um... okay.
Yes, Brighton will be a tranquil reserve of solitude where the only noises you hear are the wind rustling through the trees, the sound of children off playing in the distance, and the imported sounds of screaming birds of prey and gunshots.
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Machining Jim from PE writes: Why not capitalize on them. Make some sort of attraction out of it.
Charlottetown crow capitial of Canada I dont know but the city might as well make a positive out of it.
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Any Chance from pei writes: Any chance of getting these devices and hanging them outside the Premiers office so he'll relocate?
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Foolish council from PEI writes: Wow we have a foolish city council. So you scare them out of the park and into another neighborhood. What a noisy waste of time and money.
Nor would a crow cull help, they will repopulate to whatever population the environment supports.
We can not control nature, and only fools would have the ambition to try.
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bannie ============== from chtown, pei writes: the person truth from pei,
good idea ,but will they try it.
some times the simpliest things
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Kool Aid Syndrome? from PEI writes: Gee what a great idea! Scare the Crows out of Brighton so they can gather somewhere else and cause total Havoc in another area for citizens!
Great Plan!! I wonder who's superior intelligence came up with that one??
I'm sure such an idea would be way below just the average person's IQ
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THE CROW from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: I live in the area and the crows do not bother me. The city council in its wisdom (yes I am being sarcastic) is giving the residents of the area noise makers to make a lot more noise than the crows do to try to scare them away. Now we will have to contend with a bunch of morons making noise all night and day. But then this is the same city council that is building a roundabout that no one wants and the same council that lets IRAC walk all over it and the same council that often ignores its own building bylaws. We should get some noisemakers and try to scare away this council and get one that has a few brains. Maybe the crows would run for their seats.
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Bill MacDonald from CHARLOTTETOWN, PE writes: this has to be the worst gov ever give me a break waste money on other stuff... stop with the jokes
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John Barron from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Only from this council would you get residents to make a lot more noise in hopes of getting rid of some crows. I live in the area and sure don't want the residents letting off noise and strobes all the time. This council must have a committee that does nothing but come up with really dumb ideas and the dumber the better for our esteemed councillors.
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The CAT from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: The crow is one of the smartest birds in nature and as soon as they realize the noise makers will not harm them they will ignore them. All the noise making will do is annoy most of the residents of the area. Talk about a really stupid idea.
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The Elf from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: I would prefer the council take the money it will cost for this farce and put it toward stopping the speeding on Brighton Road. Crows don't kill people, but one of these days the idiots roaring out Brighton Road will kill. Never mind the crows and go after the speeders.
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Peter Gunn from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Talk about pandering to a few people who don't like crows. All the councillors are doing is keeping an eye on the next election and attempting to buy a few votes with this moronic idea of trying to scare off the crows.
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Mr Cranky from Chtown, PE writes: It's almost sickening, this perception that everyone who lives in the Brighton area is a rich, elitist snob who sits around counting money all day, with a staff of 10 to run their house and cook their gourmet meals. I wish I could tell the genius named Monster what I really think of him/her, but judging by the despicable grammar and spelling, life has already beat me to it.
I live in Brighton, Monster, and not only did I not inherit a dime from anyone, I paid for my education, paid off the student loans, I'm paying a mortgage on a modest-sized home, and drive a compact car. You won't catch me vacationing in the last decade, I don't summer in a cottage. Is that poor enough for you, or am I not worthy of your working-class hero status?
Now that I've made it clear that I'm at least part human, may I inject an opinion? 100 crows outside your window, especially at dawn, is noisy to say the least. It's not a distant, steady caw, it's a chaotic, unnerving noise even with all your windows closed.
If you don't think they're a problem, you simply don't live in the area. What some of you may perceive as some kind of gratuitous complaint about some pesky natural occurrence keeping us from completely enjoying our tea time on the western wings of our mansions, but it's a huge, messy, noisy problem for anyone with an eardrum, geography aside.
You think most of the Brighton residents wouldn't agree to a common sense approach and poison/shoot/otherwise kill these rats with wings? No, we'll be as humane as we can, and allow thousands of tax dollars to be spent on scaring these flying rats away, rather than disposing of them via shotguns/pellet guns/etc.
Now, despite the fact we're all such rich, arrogant royalty, can some of you martyrs for the blue collar set actually imagine the slight possibility that the number of crows in our neighborhood could potentially reach an unsuitable level? How about if we agree to pay for any solutions with our own tax base, and not involve the working heroes who think the golden streets of Brighton are paved with their sweat and blood?
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LA from PEI writes: I agree with the Cat, crows are exceptionally intelligent and will find a way around it. It is their rookery and I would rather they be humanely reduced in number rather than tortured and driven out of their home with noise.
Not to mention if driven away, they land somewhere else, probably in a neighborhood where not everybody has a garage to keep off the poop.
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mike from blooming pt writes: Does anyone know if there is a noise bylaw in Charlottetown and are these noise makers going to be in violation?
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pei'er from PE writes: I think they moved about 3 blocks east...thanks!
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Give it UP from PEI writes: It has been proven without a doubt that crows have superior intelligence .................... need I say more???
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bill from pei writes: too many crows ?
grow some forests
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mt stewart man from pei writes: I wish they could come up with something here there are lots of crows to get rid of
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Mr Cranky from Chtown, PE writes: Thanks, moderator! You allowed the entire town to drag Brighton residents through the mud and delay my post in our defense going on 4 hours now. Does the Guardian online have a staff of 2, or just an ax to grind against Brighton residents?
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joe from pei writes: I was talking to a friendly old crow today while walking on the boardwalk,they are on to this scam already,the seagulls down at the old potato warf tipped them off as they have one of those noisemakers set up down there.
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Wide Belly from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Actually Cranky, the annoying incessant cawing are your comments and by the way crows are not flying rats. If you had just a fraction of their intelligence I would pay attention to your postings.
I also live in Brighton and as I write this there are hundreds of crows in the trees in my yard and I am not bothered by them in the least. The rookery has been in this area for more than 100 years and hopefully will be here long after we are gone. What galls me is the arrogance of some of the residents in this area who are bothered by nature and so they badger the city council with their incessant whining until the councillors come up with probably one of the more stupid ideas they have ever conceived. To be honest I prefer the company of crows than that of the whiners in this neighbourhood who have moved in and decided that the birds are not to their liking so must be gotten rid of. No amount of reasoning will placate them because heaven forbid their quiet is being disturbed by nature. So what is their answer? Make much more noise to try to scare off the crows. Idiots all.
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The all seeing eye from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Don't you have a bit of an inferiority complex running there Cranky? Why the need to explain your background, education and financial situation when posting about crows, Could it be that you don't feel you deserve to live in Brighton?
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James Bond from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: I saw some Canada geese feeding just off Victoria Park this afternoon. What say we go grab some firecrackers and really scare the feathers off them? It could be a lot if fun.
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The Queen from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: There is a flock of sparrows over on Spring Park road that has been giving the residents a hard time. Is anyone up to going over there and maybe giving them a slap upside the head?
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Queen Beatrix from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: If this crow thing did not make our city council look like a bunch of fools it would be funny.
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Rob Smith from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Queen Beatrix - it is not the council who look like fools, it is some of the residents of the Brighton area who are coming off like as bunch of morons. They are playing right into the hands of other city residents who already think the area is full of rich snobs who always get what they want.
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Not a rich snob from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: I wonder if these rich snobs in Brighton take out their own garbage or do they hire someone to do it for them?
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A poor guy from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Those people wouldn't have the time take out the garbage what with using all their time saving other rich snobs from the crows.
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Just wondering from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Does anyone know how to be accepted into the Brighton society of rich snobs? Do I have to prove myself by killing a crow or can I just move there? If I do just move there do I have to hang a dead crow on my front door to show I am one of them? Maybe if I go outside and just start yelling at the crows they will think I am one them and accept me. I am really confused as to how to act in Brighton because they appear to be living in a whole other world.
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The Answer from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: Just Wondering - They are living in a whole other world. How else can you explain their being able to control nature by making a lot of noise and scaring away birds. They can even scare away the Jack Frost Festival. They have the power to convince even our city council to do dumb things. No wait, the council does not have to be convinced.
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Not one of them from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: My advice to Just Wondering is to stay out of Brighton. Who wants to live in an area that does not value nature and grasps an idea like scaring crows with a lot of noise? The residents of the area are about to become the laughing stock of the city, even more than they are now.
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Just wait and see from Charlottetown, P.E.I. writes: The residents of the Brighton area are about to become the subject of many jokes. Ones along the lines of a bunch of spoiled rich folks who can badger the city council into doing something really stupid by dangling a few votes over their heads.
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nitpicker from Charlottetown, PEI writes: so if thousands of crows descended on, say, Sherwood, residents there would say nothing, huh?
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bill from pei writes: cut down all the trees and put in a permanent rock concert site
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TA from pei writes: To truth...well, well, don't you know..if you hang a dead crow in a tree all the other crows from the Island will fly in for the wake and find the upscale neighborhood to their liking and never leave. Hey, good idea..
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