Downtown waterfront property up for grabs

Dave Stewart
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Queen’s Wharf in Charlottetown used to be home to the Canadian Coast Guard

Some prime waterfront property in Charlottetown is now up for grabs.

The provincial government’s Department of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal has issued a request for proposals (RFP) on the Queen’s Wharf property.

That’s the property that used to be the home of the Canadian Coast Guard.

The RFP process was supposed to wrap up on Wednesday, Aug. 6 but due to growing interest the department has extended the deadline to Aug. 27.

“We had received several requests during the process for an extension so we did extend it,’’ said Foster Millar, project manager with the Department of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal. “It’s a big project. Developers are looking at what they can develop and make financial sense. That takes a fair bit of time.’’

The province acquired the former coast guard piece of land, located next to the Delta Prince Edward Hotel and P.E.I. Convention Centre, several years ago. The convention centre was built on a section of the land the provincial government acquired.

“What we’re trying to do now is test the market and see what private sector interests would have, what the ideas are for developing the remainder of the property.’’

Millar said the vacant piece of land would obviously have to be developed following the different guidelines laid out within the City of Charlottetown’s bylaws and regulations.

“We’re hoping to have proposals and stimulate growth, (development) that is compatible with that downtown area.’’

Millar didn’t want to get specific about the type of interest shown to date. All he would say is that his department has received more than 10 proposals and fewer than 20.

“With some of them we can sort of tell what type of activity they are in.’’

Others would have come in from consultants so it’s not clear whether they are working on their own behalf or another developer.

“We know that there are several people looking at it seriously.’’

The provincial government is obligated to consult with First Nations on P.E.I. because the former coast guard property is former Crown land.

Millar said they did that.

“We have reached an agreement with the First Nations and they are happy with us proceeding with this development proposal call’’

Millar said it’s not unusual in a case like this to extend the RFP process.

In this case, no one is telling prospective developers what they have to build there.

“They need to give us ideas and fairly detailed plans and business proposals and to do it in the time that we initially allocated was probably very, very optimistic. In our hearts, we knew there would be requests for extensions so it’s not that unusual.’’

dstewart@theguardian.pe.ca

Twitter.com/DveStewart

Organizations: Canadian Coast Guard, Department of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal, Delta Prince Edward Hotel and P.E.I. Convention Centre First Nations

Geographic location: Charlottetown

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  • reality
    August 18, 2014 - 06:10

    room for more apm montreal style business

  • @sad day
    August 18, 2014 - 03:45

    Sad day for sure.....what belongs to Islanders will soon be "for sale" to the highest bidder....provided they are liberal. When all is said and done the people who live here willl have no access.....sad day for islanders

  • Islander
    August 17, 2014 - 16:22

    Please make this mostly green space. Please no more condos!!

  • herman
    August 17, 2014 - 10:38

    to Bob Diamond, --- rough are we? Anyway, for your information, the Feds. movd out because the City expressed plans to have new waterfront developed for the betterments of the City. They expected to have the Fed. Gov. people moved to other places within the City, - having their cake and eating it too, so to speak. So your accusations that Harper and Shea did something wrong is ill founded. Ghiz is now in charge of what takes place on that land, and if he had any vision, he would see to that it was developed with public use and access in mind, take a quee from other "juristictions" and make it his business for Charlottetown to be a model for sensible, thoughtful and people oriented designs for the whole Charlottetown waterfront. Make something people you remember, people would come here to learn how to copy. Be the talk of the country, even the wold. Make a world wide designer competition, put us on the map for use of what nature has given us. Vision, Ghiz, vision, vision, and never mind the mundane, (a few condoes and little shops) this will bring attention to something positive in your leadership of this province. Recently saw a clip from Copenhagen, Denmark where the Maersk Shipping Line had donated a 'garden' on the waterfront. Fantastic artistic arrangement with fountains, sculptures and flowers,- a real legacy to be enjoyed by generations of people, - a tourist attraction by it self. We can, if we reverse the notion by political operatives of giving in stead of taking.

  • j doherty
    August 16, 2014 - 20:31

    No doubt this available space will soon be populated with Murphy related attractions. The real waterfront issue is the Delta. Does a huge brick box displaying the worst of Soviet style architecture best fit the image of the "cradle of confederation" This is what these wealthy and connected people see when they enter the harbour on the cruise ships.

  • roberta
    August 16, 2014 - 18:08

    We all know what should be done with that waterfront, --- make is great for tourists and the general public to enjoy. We also all know that our Premier have no imagination or intelligence and cannot look past his own nose, --- vision escapes him. Pressure from his cronies imprisons him.

  • Wallace
    August 16, 2014 - 18:04

    Having travelled EUROPE, I HAVE SEEN SOME FANTASTIC WATERFRONTS IN VARIOUS CITIES. THE CHARLOTTETOWN WATERFRONT MENTIONED IS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THEY COME, SO DON'T LET US MESS IT UP. LET US LOOK AROUND, AND MAKE PROFIT THE LAST CONCERN IN THE EQUATION. IF WE ARE TO GROW TOURISM, WE NEED MAKE USE OFE VERY ASSET WE HAVE TO MAKE CHARLOTTETOWN AND THE ISLAND MEMORABLE. LET US NOT BE STUPID AND SHORT SIGHTED ON THIS.

  • albert
    August 16, 2014 - 17:59

    how about asking the people what we want there. Make a contest to see who can come up with the best idea, - never mind developers, it is 'the peoples' land after all, to let us decide. how about it Robert????

  • rick
    August 16, 2014 - 17:56

    The view from this area is unsurpassed, - what an asset for a City, and now Gjiz is going to screw it up by letting one of more of his money grubbing friends take it over. Too bad we could not get rid of him and get somebody with a vision and imagination to lead us and make the right decision on a piece of land like this. One that fr once thought of the people as a whole and not making a few friends wealthy.

  • heather
    August 16, 2014 - 17:52

    Anyone surprised??? Any other place would invest in a spectacular water front open space and park, - but no we are too backwards to think in those terms, and besides that we need to make a few cronies wealthy, so to hell with what could and should happen here. Ghiz is so parochial he can't imagine how fantastic this could be, and what a jewel for the water tourist (cruise ships) we could have. I cry--- for Charlottetown, the bunch at City Hall has no more imagination that Ghiz. Time to replace them all.

  • oberst
    August 16, 2014 - 17:45

    of course this should be left as green space, any other City presented with such a slice of water front, would make sure it was developed as green space where people can stroll and sit , - but of course we are not ANY OTHER Place, we are good old patronage PEI, where the rich gets the spoils from the Ghiz. Extending the deadline is so accommodate som lioberal friends who had not gotten their s... together on time, ----- What is Foster Millar doing there, - he retired ages ago, but his liberal connections must have hauled him back in for enhancement of his pension, -- more crab in the Ghiz mismanagement of our affairs, --

  • Fed up
    August 16, 2014 - 16:04

    Coast Guard should BE LEFT THERE!! If put for sale, watch another Ghiz friend grab it and build yet another hotel or apartment building. Leave SOME of the water to be seen...and Coast Guard a necessity! IF the Guardian would do proper reporting, people would see what the inshore rescue does. Last week someone jumped from bridge. Guardian said RCMP saved him?. NOT TRUE...it was CG Inshore Rescue team who talked him into their boat and took him to help. Two weeks ago, Guardian said FIREMEN saved overturned boat....again, it was CG Inshore Rescue...that is two of numerous things they have done this year alone...and Ghiz Government chased them out of this very place. Made them search for another base....one which is further away from most of their emergencies. People need to know some of the things Prov Gov is doing!! All hush hush for their friends....

    • Bob Diamond
      August 16, 2014 - 21:08

      Fed Up, I don't think I have read as stupid and moronic a comment as yours in a very long time. You want the Coast Guard to stay there, but they moved out years ago. You blame Ghiz, but he had nothing to do with it. The Coast Guard is a federal responsibility and not Provincial. It was your friend Stephen Harper and his lackey Gail Shea who moved the coast guard from the city waterfront along with the federal department of fisheries. Please, do not comment here again unless you know what you are talking about.

    • Fed up
      August 17, 2014 - 21:11

      Check out YOUR comment Diamond. Every year CG Inshore Rescue was in that very spot. This year they were made MOVE...and it WAS your Ghiz friend. Maybe YOU should check things out before shooting your mouth off!! They have to share space with another group... Check your own stupid comments...and perhaps your grammar? I happen to know several of the CG people personally...you obviously don't!

  • Jan
    August 16, 2014 - 09:52

    The drawings I saw a few years back showed more shops as a continuation of the Peak's shops. As far as I understood it was all in- filled when the wharf was built so I'm not sure how there's any Aboriginal land history there.

  • JRSPLACE
    August 16, 2014 - 08:53

    It's about prestige to most developers .They want to be the one to control the best land the land with a view of the harbour . But because of their self centered pea size brains they feel great power in taking that view and blocking the public from ever seeing it again . The city and the province fall for it evety time and in another 20 years you will need a boat to see the harbour . Oh yeah I forgot they also took away all the public boat slip access to the harbour as well .

  • townie2
    August 16, 2014 - 08:52

    a park or something similar would be nice, but we know that won't happen, there will be more condo's or something similar going there, blocking the water view and turning it into private property. ironic how many big cities are now trying to buy back there waterfront properties for parks, trails, etc. while we sell ours.

  • don
    August 16, 2014 - 08:05

    consult with First Nations on P.E.I. why should we do that? this island is controlled by the french not the First Nations and the rich.

    • sammy
      August 16, 2014 - 11:26

      The Chiefs on PEI won't even tell us what they are paying themselves or what they are spending our generous tax dollars on so why would we consult with them. on anything

  • ya
    August 16, 2014 - 07:53

    Let put in some more over priced stores or restaurants.

  • PeiGuytoo
    August 16, 2014 - 05:34

    We must never lose the vista at the bottom of Queen Street captured in the photo that accompanies this article … green space must be protected at all costs.

  • Bill Meeker
    August 15, 2014 - 23:05

    The best idea would be to make it a green space on the waterfront. Business development has already gobbled up most of the waterfront so they should not have a chance to take this land and build on it. Already people are strolling on the old wharf and enjoying the beautiful views. But unfortunately I think the government will let business have this parcel of land because I think there are lots of developers out there who are salivating at the chance of getting their money grubbing hands on this prime piece of real estate and the provincial government and the city of Charlottetown cannot be trusted to do what is in the best interests of the people - make a green space out of the old wharf.