Chip Shack operator plans to appeal council's decision

Dave Stewart
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 Caron Prins sits at a table in front of her chip shack near Founder's Hall. If several nearby restuarant operators have their way Charlottetown city council will deny Prins a permit to operate her chip shack this summer. Council has voted not to issue her a permit to operate this summer based on several comnplaints. Guardian photo by Brian McInnis

Chip Shack on Charlottetown waterfront and Big Orange Lunchbox told they cannot operate in capital city this summer

The self-proclaimed 'queen of fries' in Charlottetown is appealing city council's decision to deny her a permit to operate this summer.

Caron Prins, who operates the Chip Shack on Prince Street, between Founders' Hall and Lobster on the Wharf, said she will complete the necessary paperwork this weekend and submit it early next week.

Prins was told she has 21 days to file a request to have city council reconsider its decision to deny the permit.

"In between (now and then) I'm staying open, damned right,'' Prins told The Guardian on Wednesday. "I've had a lot of support (since the story broke).''

Prins said she's had more than one prominent business person in Charlottetown either call or show up personally to offer their support.

The city received opposition from restaurants to applications from Prins and the Big Orange Lunchbox, which wanted to operate a food trailer next to The Triangle on University Avenue. The city also received a letter from Restaurants Canada outlining concerns and strict conditions under which food truck licences should be granted.

"The guys over here at the (Lobster on the Wharf) personally came over yesterday and said it wasn't their restaurant that complained about me,'' Prins said. "I've got a lot of professional support and a lot of local support.''

Coun. Rob Lantz, chairman of planning, notes that food trucks, trailers and cars are not permitted uses in the waterfront zone and 500 lot zone in the city's zoning and development bylaw.

There are permitted locations in the downtown under the street vending bylaw, as would be the case in many other cities across North America.

"We have been using a temporary use variance to permit the Chip Shack in previous years but that clause in the bylaw is not intended to be used year after year to make exceptions,'' Lantz said. "The proper place for these operations is the street vending bylaw, like everywhere else.''

Many jurisdictions are trying to get a stronger handle on street vendors.

In Halifax, for example, food trucks operating on private property, which the Chip Shack is, are not covered by city permits. So long as the trucks meet provincial health and business regulations, the owners can make whatever agreements they can negotiate with property owners. Halifax Mayor Mike Savage says there is an appetite in the city to be more flexible with regard to food trucks but the city also needs to balance the needs of restaurants with food trucks.

In Edmonton, vendors must have a business licence, a health permit, a minimum of $2 million general liability insurance and a vending permit.

Prins said she just wants to offer locally bought food for Islanders and tourists.

"I just hope I can do that this summer so they can feel great about my fries and, hopefully, they will have a great experience here in Charlottetown,'' Prins said.

dstewart@theguardian.pe.ca

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Organizations: Queen of Fries Chip Shack, Restaurants Canada

Geographic location: Charlottetown, 4 Prince Street

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  • concerned citizin
    May 16, 2014 - 07:25

    I'm boycotting Water Street fish and Chips and think you should too. Plus i'm going right now to trip advisor to give them a poor review

    • what?
      May 16, 2014 - 09:39

      Why?

    • Jeff
      May 16, 2014 - 09:51

      What an ignorant line of thought... Why?? I read the article and not once did I see Water Street Fish and Chips in there... Do you have some magical source of information that maybe you can share with the rest of the public???

    • concerned citizin
      May 16, 2014 - 23:25

      I work at city. Do you really think the Murphy's would be worried about this small fry.

  • Stacey
    May 15, 2014 - 21:30

    Quick ...shut the Dollar Store down..YOU are not permitted to use there wash rooms.

  • les
    May 15, 2014 - 20:02

    I have never witnessed a province so reluctant to small business....These are small businesses competing against totally different venues....holy crap...look at the Toronto news today....(big city I know)...street vendors gobbling up spots.....Charlottetown has to get its act together... SHE SELLS FRENCH FRIES !!! Not underpaid undercover lobster! Really.........

  • Former Islander
    May 15, 2014 - 14:51

    Zoning is zoning. It is put in place for several reasons; often economics. If the government continues to issue variances year after year to the same people the public will, in turn, expect to be treated the same. Where do you draw the line? Until you can't fit any more food trucks on that street? Now think what this will do to the revenue downtown. Cheap food equals cheap taxes. Lower incomes equal fewer taxes. Few jobs equal a continued dwindling young population. You take away from all the few serving, kitchen and bartending jobs in the area. For a town that is fighting to keep it's young demographic home, jobs should be the biggest issue. Food trucks take these jobs from the young people resulting in a depleting population. I understand that one food truck is not going to impact the economy in a measurable manner. However, if you issue one variance you have to issue more or the next headline will read "Charlottetown Playing Favourites in Small Business" and Mr. Lee and whoever this "Liam" guy is will be under the spotlight for something much more problematic. Give your head a shake Charlottetown. All food trucks should be in the allotted area. If you continue to leave jobs on the table, people like me will continue to leave and bring our young talents and businesses elsewhere. My new city of Halifax has much more to offer for my small business. We accomplish this by focusing on the big picture, treating all small business fairly. No "variances" for a specific little guy. One variance will lead to another, to another, with a negative ripple effect that stretches far beyond the benefits of a single variance. I wish this food truck lady, Caron, all the best and truly hope she runs a successful small business. Just do it like everyone else; by the rules. Play on the same field as all of your competitors and I can assure you, you will find more respect coming your way.

    • Really?
      May 15, 2014 - 15:42

      Really really uninformed argument. Food trucks create jobs they do not destroy jobs. Try using a little common sense.

    • BOb
      May 16, 2014 - 07:22

      This lady was playing by the rules but since she was doing a good job another business decided the rules should be changed. So instead of competing by offering better service or food themselves they just get the politicians to shut down the better competitor. I'm all for rules but you can't keep changing them to prevent other people from going into business. The people in business now have no god given right to have our business.

    • Wayne Eisan
      May 16, 2014 - 11:14

      This is to 'Former Islander': Your comment although true in a position where vendors seeking a cheap place to operate versus the established downtown businesses in Charlottetown makes sense, in this situation Caron is offering something different. I really don't think that I would go to a chip wagon instead of a restaurant or pub if I was going out to eat that evening. Also she would not be allowed to operate in the evening or late at night. If there are tourists and bus tours arriving and they want a quick snack they will grab French fries for example. As far as wages in Charlottetown and the rest of the Island for that matter, not only seasonal help make minimum wage. The waitresses and waiters in the established year-round businesses do not make much more than that. They depend on tips to augment their wages. So in that instance, increased presence of another food vendor in the downtown district would increase taxes and quite possibly increase the presence of the established businesses downtown also. For example, if I am going out and happen to pick up some vendors fast food and start walking around downtown I might come across a restaurant or established business that may look interesting enough to pay a visit. Now that business which has a loyal customer base (they all do) just got another customer. Most, if not all, restaurants show a portion of their menu in their windows. I would think that these seasonal businesses could increase customer flow in the downtown, especially during the day, and increase spending in an area that has suffered from major openings outside of the city's downtown core.

  • Former Islander
    May 15, 2014 - 14:49

    Zoning is zoning. It is put in place for several reasons; often economics. If the government continues to issue variances year after year to the same people the public will, in turn, expect to be treated the same. Where do you draw the line? Until you can't fit any more food trucks on that street? Now think what this will do to the revenue downtown. Cheap food equals cheap taxes. Lower incomes equal fewer taxes. Few jobs equal a continued dwindling young population. You take away from all the few serving, kitchen and bartending jobs in the area. For a town that is fighting to keep it's young demographic home, jobs should be the biggest issue. Food trucks take these jobs from the young people resulting in a depleting population. I understand that one food truck is not going to impact the economy in a measurable manner. However, if you issue one variance you have to issue more or the next headline will read "Charlottetown Playing Favourites in Small Business" and Mr. Lee and whoever this "Liam" guy is will be under the spotlight for something much more problematic. Give your head a shake Charlottetown. All food trucks should be in the allotted area. If you continue to leave jobs on the table, people like me will continue to leave and bring our young talents and businesses elsewhere. My new city of Halifax has much more to offer for my small business. We accomplish this by focusing on the big picture, treating all small business fairly. No "variances" for a specific little guy. One variance will lead to another, to another, with a negative ripple effect that stretches far beyond the benefits of a single variance. I wish this food truck lady, Caron, all the best and truly hope she runs a successful small business. Just do it like everyone else; by the rules. Play on the same field as all of your competitors and I can assure you, you will find more respect coming your way.

  • Slippy
    May 15, 2014 - 13:36

    I seem to remember Tim Hortons being opened near places that already served coffee.

  • Thinking Out Loud
    May 15, 2014 - 13:30

    Just thinking that it's not the full serve, licensed restaurants that are being affected by mobile food operators. Rules and regulations to ensure health and safety and esthetics make sense. Can't quibble with basic common sense. The mobile food operators aren't in competition with bars, lounges, fully licensed restaurants. They are competition to the fast food places.

  • Small Take-Out
    May 15, 2014 - 10:47

    To Caron, Good for you for all the hard work you have put into your small business and the rewards you have reaped for all that hard work. The only "Ethical" way the city council can deny you application is by you not walking the "fine line" they want you to walk. Keep jumping through the hoops and I'm sure you'll land right on target and everyone will be able to enjoy your product. Keep plugging away. To the vast majority of commenters here, Closed minded and extremely judgmental. I got more "information" from the comments section of this article than the article itself... I completely agree with "Your hilarious". Most everyone here is attacking other prominent business people(not having any information to justify this) instead of coming to some kind of solution or positive way to express their "Views". Small town/island mentality... See how much of a positive impact this type of thinking gets you all...

  • Just a Guy
    May 15, 2014 - 10:14

    Ah yes. Now I remember Charlottetown politics. Now I remember why I left. Well done Liam. I remember when YOU were the new guy in town trying to run a new business. If Charlottetown patrons had shown you the same degree of foul play, you wouldn't be in business today. Whats next - going to burn the shack down? Make false complaints to the health inspector? Very shameful

    • Maybe the Facts would HELP!
      May 15, 2014 - 13:44

      Charlottetown politics are a beast of their own, but blaming one individual (Liam) when you do not understand the whole situation is part of the reason why Charlottetown politics are the beast they are. FACT - City Council Voted UNANIMOUSLY not to grant a permit to the Orange Lunch Box due to bylaws. FACT - Restaurants Canada provided survey results to restaurants who wanted information about food trucks. FACT - The survey Restaurants Canada provided are country wide - coast to coast - and it is up to the individual city to use the information as they seem best. FACT - Liam is the Chairman of Restaurants Canada. FACT - Liam had nothing at all to do with city council meetings or findings. JUST GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!

    • Maybe the Facts would HELP!
      May 15, 2014 - 13:45

      Charlottetown politics are a beast of their own, but blaming one individual (Liam) when you do not understand the whole situation is part of the reason why Charlottetown politics are the beast they are. FACT - City Council Voted UNANIMOUSLY not to grant a permit to the Orange Lunch Box due to bylaws. FACT - Restaurants Canada provided survey results to restaurants who wanted information about food trucks. FACT - The survey Restaurants Canada provided are country wide - coast to coast - and it is up to the individual city to use the information as they seem best. FACT - Liam is the Chairman of Restaurants Canada. FACT - Liam had nothing at all to do with city council meetings or findings. JUST GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!

    • Jane
      May 15, 2014 - 14:42

      yes well said, people should find out the facts first before shooting their mouths off. Boycotting certain restaurants ???? Grow up ! Rules are put in place for a reason.... City Council voted on this, not Mr Dolan.

    • Really?
      May 15, 2014 - 16:19

      Really really uninformed argument. Food trucks create jobs they do not destroy jobs. Try using a little common sense.

    • FACT
      May 15, 2014 - 16:24

      FACT. Liam Dolan is in conflict of interest and needs to step down. FACT. City council admitted they were bowing to pressure from restaurant owners. Before you open your trap you should get your own FACTS straight.

    • Conflict of Interest?
      May 16, 2014 - 11:03

      Conflict of interest? How? Liam is the Chair of the Restaurant Association, it is his JOB to present the concerns of fellow restaurant owners, he has nothing to do with City council or how they vote. Perhaps if the owners of the two restaurants that complained came forward and explained their case it would help clear the air? The fact of the matter is that it's a zoning issue, (as right or wrong as it may be). If you want to make a change, go about it the right way, complaining and making false accusations in the Guardian comment section is just plain ignorant. To clear the air a little....NEITHER of the restaurants that complained at in close proximity to the Chip Shack. Get your facts together folks, it's quite clear that not many people on here know much about the situation.

  • Seen Enough
    May 15, 2014 - 02:48

    Wish I had come across this place yesterday. Had yet another crappy meal at a Charlottetown dining establishment to the tune of $65 .I don't think there is a half decent restaurant in the city . My wife and I will target chip shack next time ! All these fancy places are run by kids and suck !

  • Wendy Grant
    May 14, 2014 - 23:42

    WAKE UP CHARLOTTETOWN, IT;S CALLED EAT STREET, OR HVE YOU WATCHED THAT PROGRAM ON T.V. WHERE PEOPLE COOK A HEALTHY SNACK OUT OF THE BACK OF A TRUCK AND PEOPLE FLOCK TO THEM BECAUSE THE FOOD IS GOOD AND NICELY PRICED AND IT HOLDS YOU OVER FOR A LATER MEAL. LOOKS LIKE THESE PATRONS WILL HAVE TO WAIT AS LONG AS IT TOOK TO GET CANNED POP HERE SHAME ON YOU!!!!

  • Sasha Burkitt
    May 14, 2014 - 23:00

    Wow, this is sad. Let this woman operate her business. It's little businesses like this that make our Island such a unique and wonderful place.

  • Jim
    May 14, 2014 - 22:38

    To : Mayor Lee and City Aldermen As a city tax payer, I am appalled by what I feel was a bush league move by the city. First and foremost, council was way too hasty in its decision to refuse these two legitimate business owners the right to open their businesses for the summer. If there was a letter/letters sent to city hall objecting to these two businesses operating for whatever reason(s), then the owners of the businesses in question should have been afforded the opportunity to appear before council and make submissions before any vote by council ever took place. Instead, council simply blindsided them and left them in a state of shock. This is totally wrong and gives the whole city a bad image. We do have a thing in this country called due process, remember? Moreover, both provide good quality food and a much needed alternative to the working class and visitors to the city. For once in your lives, do the right thing for these two small business owners, reverse the decision ASAP and put this thing to bed right away and hope that everyone forgets it ever happened. People are sick and tired of all the politics in Charlottetown/PEI and for once, put the dirty politics aside and show the people of Charlottetown that you're capable of making an informed decision, not a decision based on council's need to appease one or two so-called big restaurant entrepreneurs who think they call all the shots and are above everyone else. The Chip Shack and the Big Orange Lunchbox have the right to operate just like every other business in Charlottetown. So put this nonsense away once and for all and give these hard working people the green light, without restrictions, and allow them to operate their businesses as freely as every other legitimate business as they rightfully deserve. It's the right thing to do! I do hope to see a positive resolution to this matter in the very near future. Thank You

  • Billy Bob
    May 14, 2014 - 21:15

    If someone has a beef with her shop, they should open up their own chip shack and compete. That's how the free market economy works.

  • peggy
    May 14, 2014 - 19:26

    SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on you ! To Charlottetown City Council: all I can say is Shame On You ! I am writing because of what you as a collective group are doing to our City. This denial of business permits - or whatever it is - for both the young woman who ran the chip shop and for the fellow who ran the big Orange Lunchbox is appalling. The young woman ran through hoops before she could run her business on the wharf last year. The Orange Lunchbox ran on University Avenue and is now running a licensed restaurant on University Ave in a building owned by the Tweel family. He wants to run a complimentary operation fifty (50) feet away on a vacant lot . Both run decent businesses and have proven themselves in the past. What has changed ? The sad reality is that this is the mindset that keeps Charlottetown - together with a lack of strategic planning for the future. Mr Lantz said there were complaints from other business owners. WHO and WHAT did they complain about ??? Is that the way Charlottetown operates ? Complain to City Councillors behind someone else's back and you get your way ? In secret ???? Seriously .... Please tell us. Give us the names, what they complained about and why you listened to them. PLEASE. We've heard whining about losing parking spots for patios and there was a suggestion of an auction for spots. WHO has the largest and the most patios in Charlottetown on PUBLIC PROPERTY ???? It isn't Shamus McDuff or Etienne Gallant ( both dreamt up names ). HOW do you spell priviledge in Charlotteetown ? M U R P H Y ..... owned , operated or run businesses have the most patios and patio spaces ( = to most parking spaces). Is that fair when others want to run businesses and generate activity in the City core ? How can others compete ???? Great George Street ought to be a fountain of activity to compliment the few merchants there - but what is it ? Dead. Go to Halifax, Montreal, Quebec and so many places - the historical areas are full of people and activity. Charlottetown ? Heck no. I'm moving to Halifax and can only hope I don't see the same narrow negative mindset there that exists here. A cute and pleasant town but one run by people with no business experience and a ton of tunnel vision. Lots of big fish in such a tiny pond. NOW - look at the members of council. There are some nice people on council BUT there isn't a single person, the mayor included who runs a business in town or has run a successful business and makes their living off running the business and paying staff, supporting local producers and so forth. NOT ONE. Look at the qualifications of most and they have lived or are living off the public purse one way or another - and these are the people who are telling business people who can operate and who can't. WOW - and SHAME at the same time. The tail is wagging the dog. All I can say is that I hope the November elections bring forth a crop of new candidates possessed of business sense or experience with something other than rose colored glasses hanging off of their noses !!! Amen.

  • Sherri Smith3
    May 14, 2014 - 19:21

    Shameful bullying! One just has to watch TV to see that all across North America people are flocking to food trucks for a different eating experience. Even in Florida, they rent the beach and supply chairs, sun lotion and other products to beach goers who want the umbrella and chair but did not bring them. I doubt we'd be allowed that either! By the way, does this mean when the City puts on our Canada Day celebrations, they too are not allowed their food trucks - I bet they are!

  • Shirley Wood
    May 14, 2014 - 19:15

    Definately let this lady operate. We hear so many peoples' are heading West to work. Please think about it, if she has her little operation compaired to a big restaurant, do you really think this is taking a big amount of monies from the restaurants? I vote to let her stay, if my vote counts.. She also has a winning personality that welcomes peoples' to PEI

  • Garth Staples
    May 14, 2014 - 18:31

    And so she should. She has an established business which offers a good and unique service to our frontline visitors.

  • Justin
    May 14, 2014 - 17:55

    She should have to provide the same services as any other restaurant or takeout. She should not be on land she doesn't own or at least rent. Why should every other taxpayer be subsidizing her business. All other places have to do certain things and also pay their share of business and property and sales tax she should have to do the same. If her product are so good why doesn't she open a real restaurant?

    • To Justin
      May 15, 2014 - 00:08

      You need to re-read the article and what you wrote, so you can get the answers you seek. She is on private land, so she is paying for rental spaces. She is just as established as any other restaurant in Charlottetown meeting the same guidelines. And no where do I see government or taxpayers money within her business, maybe there is, but likely a lot less then other restaurants.

    • Craig
      May 15, 2014 - 05:18

      So should the restaurants that get to take away parking spots for patios be charge ?

  • Kevin murphy
    May 14, 2014 - 17:52

    Just to clear the mis information up I am totally in favor of Caron and the chip shack good luck Caron

    • Just to be clear....
      May 14, 2014 - 21:37

      No one believes you are kevin murphy. More likely one of his lackys who is in fear of losing a job.

  • Robby McRobb
    May 14, 2014 - 17:38

    Obviously this entrepreneur is not part of Ghiz's Liberals. Why stop free enterprise, this young lady is ahrd worker and should be allowed by all means. Stay strong and I pray the council sees the light.

  • What changed
    May 14, 2014 - 17:32

    She was allowed there last year/ what changed? She accommodated the city's request to upgrade her building so she wouldn't offend the hysterical society. She sells French fries- who exactly is worried this will cut into their business?? Care to name names? No I didn't think so-because Islanders have long memories!! It better be a lucrative summer for these seasonal restaurants on the waterfront - don't count on local business though!! Food is a risky and fickle business!! If Charlittetown doesn't 'get it' / maybe they should talk to the Montague restaurant owner who complained and ask how that worked for her.

  • vick
    May 14, 2014 - 17:19

    Wow I cant beleive the comments here...any wondering pei has the highest rate of cancer and obesity all you want to do is eat deep fried food!

    • Get over yourself.
      May 14, 2014 - 21:33

      Wow. I can't believe the comments of some of these sanctimonious self-righteous food police who think they are soooo special because they won't eat a hamburger. Get over yourself. You are not special. This is a discussion about the rights of a small business owner.

  • Kevin murphy
    May 14, 2014 - 17:17

    Contrary to some comments on this blog I am very much in favor and support Caron and the chip shack on the charlottetown waterfront

  • John Smith
    May 14, 2014 - 16:02

    There's an easy way to take a stand people. If the Murphy's and Dolan's don't have anyone sitting in there seats then maybe they will get the hint. If the general population doesn't stick up for the little guy no one will..............

    • Huh?
      May 15, 2014 - 02:20

      I'm sorry, I must have missed the part of the article that named the Dolan's and the Murphy's as the people that complained? Have their names been released? I've read the article and read the comments and I'm unable to put two and two together....or wait a minute...I'm just not jumping to conclusions.

  • Marilyn & John
    May 14, 2014 - 15:59

    Our city fathers need to seriously reconsider their decision regarding the Chip Shack as the rationale given for declining this application has absolutely no justifiable basis...insisting that a food vendor business restrict its' operation to being located within the confines of PARKING SPACES!! when shoppers complain there is no place to park downtown defies all logic!!! Competition is healthy for all businesses to learn more from...FYI,last month(April 26-7) Ottawa had a Poutine festival going on in the center of our nation's capital with chip shacks lined up for several city blocks in an area where other restaurant/eateries were also open doing business with everyone coexisting in same areag. If PEI is ever to move ahead (rather than stay behind) our community leaders must set an example rather than simply doing the bidding of everyone who claims their personal enterprise is feeling threatened; the playing field would be more level if municipal government would restrict itself to minding the affairs it was established to do.

  • Here's An Idea
    May 14, 2014 - 14:56

    Sell paper plates. Make the food free.

  • downtown worker
    May 14, 2014 - 14:36

    Caron has the best fries I have ever had on the Island and I have been here for most of my 57 years. She serves everyone with a smile and a hug if u need one ! It make me livid that she is being squeezed out by the bully boys with their vast "food service" empires for making better food than them and serving it with panache. SHAME on Dolan and the evil Murphy's with their overpriced bland offerings for trying to shut down a successful small business that sells what consumers want. And DOUBLE SHAME to their muppets on Charlottetown council who do their bidding.

    • Your hilarious
      May 14, 2014 - 21:17

      The "evil Murphy's"?? Lady who are you kidding? Between Kevin, Danny and the Dolans they employ well over 1,000 people in Ch'town not to mention the tradesmen/ladies, and suppliers they keep in operation. I personally know Caron and am 100% am in her corner but can't stand people who sit at their office chair (probably on our tax dollar) and comment on what they know nothing about. What do you do thats so important and how many people do you employ? Probably non, maybe you volunteer at the soup kitchen or offer free dinners to those in need, no?? Oh because the Murphys and the Dolans have been doing that for years as well as giving back to OUR community in many different ways. Maybe because they are successful we should all hate them, is that your mind set? Lets just all cheer for Caron on this matter rather then slander those that are in the industry! Go sweep a street corner "downtown worker"

    • Finally
      May 15, 2014 - 11:16

      Finally!! Thank you "you're hilarious" for pointing out the obvious! I've been reading these comments and can't believe how people are reacting. They are full out accusing people that have nothing to do with the actual situation. Pure ignorance. We should all stick together to support our local businesses!!

  • Rules and Regulations
    May 14, 2014 - 14:36

    There are many rules and regulations that any entrepreneur must adhere to in order to open a business. There are fees that must be paid and codes and by laws that must be followed. While I do not agree with them all, it is a harsh reality. The fact that this was passed by a vote of 8-2, it is clear that there are reasons that these businesses are being rejected to operate at their current locations under the current conditions, I'm sure there are many facts that we as a public are not aware of. While it may seem unfair and as though these operators are being attacked, they must, (along with all businesses), must follow the rules. In order to make a change, they must follow the proper procedures to fight their case. To point fingers at specific restaurant owners is unfair, they have built their businesses, (some of whom started from the bottom), and faced many obstacles themselves. They have faced obstacles that seem unfair but they are the rules. Please educate yourselves on the issue at hand before passing judgement. We should be supporting all Island businesses and work together to impose change.

    • nitpicker
      May 14, 2014 - 15:30

      I will admit I have no inside knowledge on this issue and only know what is written here in the media. That said, I still know a thing or two about how things work. Rules and regulations must serve a purpose. What is the intent of the bylaw and how is the existence of this business being contrary to that intent? That is the only question worth answering. If the city is indeed acting only because another establishment complained, then that is not acceptable. This woman is building a business too.

    • Jimmy
      May 14, 2014 - 15:58

      Can you show any proof that these "Regulations" weren't met? It doesn't sound like you can. Your statement is one giant contradiction. Why were these people allowed to operate in the past? Have the rules changed? Before asking others to educate themselves I suggest you do the same.

    • To Rules & Regulations
      May 14, 2014 - 16:18

      There didn't seem to any problems the last two years with this lady running her Chip Shack.... Why is there now??? Also, will the bicycle units (not sure what company owns them) that sell frozen treats on the streets and corners be allowed on the streets & corners to peddle frozen treats during the summer months. Does this not affect the sales of Cow's Ice Cream and any other small convenience stores that sells frozen treats jsut to make a little extra during peak season... Just Asking...

    • Poindexter
      May 14, 2014 - 16:49

      Nice try, City spokesperson.

    • Graham
      May 14, 2014 - 17:00

      Do you mean the rules that the City Council added this season to the bylaw to 'clarify' it? I don't think that excuses their choices.

    • Joe Smith
      May 14, 2014 - 18:54

      Oh but we unwashed masses are all too aware of the history of patronage and privilege in this city and on this Island. Nice try at whitewashing this. Please, educate us. What's your vested interest in this issue?

    • Response
      May 15, 2014 - 02:34

      This is a bylaw that is being invoked Nation wide in response to complaints made by restaurant owners, it does not state anywhere in the article who made the complaints. Why they were able to operate at these locations in the past is and not now is beyond my knowledge, I was just stating that unfortunately, rules have to be followed or fought until changed. I personally support both of these local businesses as I do all local businesses and sympathize with the owners. To Jimmy, yes, I can prove that the zoning regulations weren't met, read the updated story. I'm not saying it's right, just stating facts. I have no invested interest in the matter which is probably why it is easier for me to see the bigger picture and get the facts before pointing fingers.

  • No way
    May 14, 2014 - 14:18

    I'm simply telling my friends not to bother to visit the Island. It will only end up in disappointment and wasted time Sorry PEI !

    • ohno
      May 14, 2014 - 15:38

      So it's just you that won't be coming then

  • VOTER ETHICS
    May 14, 2014 - 13:30

    so, counsellors are allowed to vote on issues in which they are involved in a Conflict of Interest? VOTER ETHICS. they should be ashamed, the rest of the world is laughing at you Charlottetown.

  • Charlottetown taxpayer
    May 14, 2014 - 13:23

    All major cities have street meat or simalar mobile food services.....and the least we can do is offer French fries to our tourists...after all we grow the potatoes........all the other restaurants are pushing the political card.....this is just city politics...and they are afraid to stand up to the the Murphy's or Liam and his crew......Peakes Quay..has the worst food on PEI...in fact I steer people away...and the attitude there leaves alot to be desired...total crap.....Caron's operation and the Orange Box were VERY welcome additions to food options...and people flocked there.....if they continue with this option of forcing them to close..people should boycott those restuarants that push this agenda.....They think they have a monoply....people deserve a choice.......There are other people in this town that pay fees not just resturants..they are called taxpayers......and alot want the variety of choice........elections this FALL.....it will be a topic

  • Graham Putnam
    May 14, 2014 - 13:15

    Shameful pandering to wealthy business owners. If they so are afraid of the competition from a business that has lower operating costs, then that's the reality of the market. They provide completely different dining experiences, however if the public spends their money on the vendors, then that's obviously what the public prefers... even if it's at the cost of their competitors. Why is the government defending one business from another? Shouldn't that be up to the consumers to choose.

  • Challenge this decision
    May 14, 2014 - 13:12

    It's all been said but in case anyone is counting comments I'll add mine too. These entrepreneurs should find some way to challenge this,. It is clear from these comments that the public supports free enterprise, initiative, and the spirit of competition. City Council's decision is not right.

  • Bob Curran
    May 14, 2014 - 12:29

    Sure seem vindictive to go after the Chip Shack because other 'nearby' businesses complain? The city went after her last year as well. Way to help out local small business Charlottetown!! She has our support and we will definitely sign any petition to the city of Charlottetown to allow her to remain where she is.

  • Better use for city council's time
    May 14, 2014 - 12:04

    Rather than picking on these individuals they should focus on places serving bad and overpriced food and hurting Charlottetown food industry image. Peakes Quay comes to mind as a good example. Their business plan at this moment seems to be "clear out small food vendors and people will have no choice but to eat here".

  • Outrageous
    May 14, 2014 - 11:33

    One more reason to boycott Charlottetown.

  • Darren
    May 14, 2014 - 11:22

    The Guardian ran a story indicating the government was selling a mobile kitchen to the Murphy's yesterday!!!!!!! With all the concerts being booked on Pei this summer how did they say they were selling it cause it's underutilized!!!!! Pei has such a back stabbing mentality!!!

  • Eye in the Sky
    May 14, 2014 - 11:08

    Unfair competition? Who decides what is fair? I thought it was up to the consumer to decide what is fair in a free market economy. Perhaps it is unfair that the owners of these small business are also the operators?! Nothing changes on PEI. Politicians are elected and immediately begin vying for re-election. One vote doesn't seem to count unless it comes with the right last name or campaign contribution. See you at the polls in November...but hopefully not in office in December!

  • enough already
    May 14, 2014 - 10:40

    Can any of you nit wits read? . Trucks are something that moves around on wheels . These are not trucks . One is a trailer the will be put in one spot , the other is a shack stuck in a parking lot .

    • So?
      May 14, 2014 - 10:44

      So what? Do you have a point to make?

  • Jimmy
    May 14, 2014 - 10:23

    This is absolutely ridiculous. When are people going to wake up and realize that these people you are electing only care about there own interests. Food trucks are great for business and generate a buzz and bring people into the city. Look at Calgary for instance where they have embraced food trucks and they are a vibrant part of not only the downtown core but also the surrounding communities. They even have a website to make it easy to locate one http://www.yycfoodtrucks.com/. Every city Councillor who voted against this should be ashamed and the business owners that complained should be embarrassed that there business plan is so poor they cant compete with a lady selling fries and giving out free hugs. Shame on all of you

  • From Away
    May 14, 2014 - 10:20

    It sounds like they can still get a license if they pay for it and park the mobile units on designated public property. I don't believe this is unreasonable. That is how it is done in other areas of Canada.

  • Glad I Left PEI
    May 14, 2014 - 10:10

    I left PEI several years ago because of the blatant backroom politics. Does council realize that businesses create jobs? In a time of extremely hard economic times I can't believe that city council is blocking the conduction of business. Kudos to Mr Tweel and Redmond for standing up for the small independent business. Think I'll take my summer vacation eslewhere this year. I can't stand the thought of supporting a city that screws it own business people.

    • All of you...
      May 14, 2014 - 10:21

      All of you people who keep stroking Tweel and Redmond need to read the damn story again. They voted AGAINST the Orange Lunchbox. Doesn't make them much better than those who voted against both.

  • Keep the competition fair
    May 14, 2014 - 10:09

    Why should a food truck business be punished for having small operation costs compared to the downtown restaurants? By catering to the established businesses and wealthy business men, PEI is effectively proving that it doesn't support change. How do you expect to keep young people here if you're slamming the door in their face when they try to create something. PEI struggles with our unemployment rate, maybe if we focused on making self employment a talking point with young people on the island, we could be an island of innovation someday, rather than a place where people come to die. We're the Florida of Canada. Let's aim for San Francisco.

  • Chris
    May 14, 2014 - 10:02

    I will sign a petition for both these small business owners. It should be a decision for the public to eat at these places not the city Councillors!

  • Don Wright
    May 14, 2014 - 09:45

    When are the municipal elections ? Let's see only Mitch and Danny did the right thing. Where was Clifford on this ?

  • John MacDonald
    May 14, 2014 - 09:45

    Try changing your last name to Murphy.

    • Chrissy
      May 14, 2014 - 13:18

      haha, so true. It comes down to the old mighty dollar.

  • Don Wright
    May 14, 2014 - 09:44

    When are the municipal elections ? Let's see only Mitch and Danny did the right thing. Where was Clifford on this ?

  • Quiet Observer
    May 14, 2014 - 09:37

    Maybe time to boycott Peakes ?

  • Walt
    May 14, 2014 - 09:33

    Not everyone wants to spend thirty dollars for lunch. People who want a sit town lunch will go to a restaurant. People who want a quick cheap snack will go to a lunch truck. If they can't get it downtown, where they might buy some tourist crap, they will go to the fast food joints on the strip. Make some consistent rules for public safety. Charge a reasonable licence fee and let people decide what they want. But I also wouldn't like to see a food truck on every corner.

    • townie22
      May 14, 2014 - 18:14

      EXACTLY what i was thinking!! people who are going out (or off a cruise ship) for dinner/lunch aren't going to stop for an order of fries, don't worry, they'll walk past and go to your restaurant for the $15 lobster in a hotdog bun. oh, and no, this isn't standard law everywhere, look what the article said about Halifax. where would some of these complaining restaurants be today if, when THEY were first trying to open, City Hall said no to them?

  • Only in PEI
    May 14, 2014 - 09:32

    RIDICULOUS!

  • cathy grant
    May 14, 2014 - 09:31

    What a ridiculous decision. These operations add cachet to the downtown with their trendy, healthy fast food choices and cool exteriors. These are enterprising small business owners offering a niche market product. I'd suggest a boycott of the 'nearby' restaurants if these operations don't get the green light.

    • What
      May 14, 2014 - 10:25

      No problem with them operating but healthy fast foo choices from the Chip Shack where everything is deep fried and the Lunchbox with over priced greasy burgers. If that is healthy for you I wouldn't want to be your colon. 30 bucks for two burgers fries and drinks at the lunchbox wraps it up so not sure what your thinking must be the trans fat clogging your mind.

    • derp
      May 14, 2014 - 14:40

      healthy as in they don't use preservatives or meat soaked in ammonia like at mcdonalds. it's local beef and local produce. $15 for a gourmet burger and fresh fries and a drink is the standard price at every restaurant. the only way you'll get it cheaper is to support awful fast food chains... use your head

    • anti-derp
      May 15, 2014 - 10:37

      Hey Derp - we are in Canada - Ammonia isn't used in the McDonald's meat here. That still doesn't make it good food, but you should do a little more digging and get your facts straight before you start quoting Jamie Oliver.

    • spuds
      May 15, 2014 - 10:48

      Can we all just clue into the fact that we are fighting about food trucks. There is a difference between getting lunch at a food truck, and going into a restaurant. If the restaurants are scared, then its time to take a good look at your business. If you want to attract people who would rather spend only a few bucks on quick pile of fries for lunch, or a burger, then its time to offer some better lunch deals. Otherwise keep the menus the same and you will continue to attract people who don't mind paying a little more. This is the wrong business to be in if you are scared of a little competition. I've been to a few big cities where the food trucks do very well, have a great variety, and use local, fresh products. If I can get a decent and quick lunch for $10 from a truck, I'm in! Personally, I would prefer that over spending over $20 after drink / tip to go to a restaurant.

  • ben
    May 14, 2014 - 09:25

    and one of the chairmen owns peaks Quay guess who is oh yeah liam who also owns old dublin pub. i believe in freedom of choice and they shouldn't get to make rules like this it seems to be a conflict of interest. he owns a biz and gets to make the rules?

  • wallace
    May 14, 2014 - 09:23

    Charlottetown is a dirty little place, - "who is your FAther?" at it's best. Could THIS be to lessen competition to the newly highly acclaimed Lobster Roll Outlet set up right in Founder Halls, ---? NOEEEEEEEEEEE I ask again, who is your "FAther"? If you can't come up with one important and connected enough, - don't waste your time with an application--- let's vote them out in November, - few of them are their own men/women, - business owns the COUNCIL

  • In the Know
    May 14, 2014 - 09:03

    Maybe the question should be asked if this operator had a license to operate the past 3 years and if she had any health inspections. The answer may surprise you. It seems she just appeared out of nowhere and hung her shingle and now crying foul.

    • Nice Try
      May 14, 2014 - 10:09

      Nice try Liam. Perhaps you can give us a list of anyone who became ill after eating at any of these food truck operations.

  • Ray McKinnon
    May 14, 2014 - 08:53

    Hey kids, be careful with your lemonade stand this summer, y'all could be next.

  • KL
    May 14, 2014 - 08:49

    I encourage the businesses involved to get a petition started. You have the public's backing on this. And let us not forget that our city counsel representatives are supposed to speak for us; we make the rules.

  • B
    May 14, 2014 - 08:48

    Established restaurants citing "unfair competition" concerns against a couple of food trucks is ridiculous. In business it's only acceptable to team up against the big guy, not to elbow out the little guy.

  • Den
    May 14, 2014 - 08:47

    Here's an idea to the whiny owners complaining, be competitive yourselves and give these chip wagons a run for their money. Some of your eateries aren't that great to begin with and are very overrated.

  • City Council What a Joke.
    May 14, 2014 - 08:43

    When are They Going To Fix The Rds Like Victoria Park, Behind the Cinema ... I Just Move Home and WOW ! What is Going on With The Rds. Mine Fields ! Speaking Of Food Franchises, Tim Horton's North River Rd Drive Thru Ashfelt Bad... Also We Need Vendors at the Waterfront to Take Our Family ...Restaurant Prices Are to High.. Danny Murphy Got His Money Made Let Another Person Make a Few Bucks And Much Cheaper. For The Roads If They Don't Fix The Roads Soon ,Tourist Will Be a Thing of the Past... I Been Driving 3 Months in PEI And My 2010 Car Has $957.00 Damage to the Front End.... I Am Totally Mad... Is Town Council Asleep The Rds are Bad... This Place Looks like a Ghetto... The Only Thing the Council Likes, Let's Put up More Apartment Buildings...They re Everywhere... Do They Know The Amount of People Leaving Here For Alberta... After October 28 You Will See Big Changes in Population When the New EI Comes In, Not Looking Good For Seasonal Workers. You Might See Your Family 3 Months of the Year.

  • Jean Eldershaw
    May 14, 2014 - 08:41

    For people who must follow a strict gluten free diet for medical reasons the Chip Shack is a dream come true. All items cooked in the fryer are gluten free and Caron is well aware of cross contamination issues. Is this decision by city council actually based on real facts or merely opinions?

    • Jamie
      May 14, 2014 - 09:18

      boombuger has gluten free fries fyi i go there for g/f food

    • Dave
      May 14, 2014 - 19:02

      It's a bit of a walk from the waterfront.

  • Ron
    May 14, 2014 - 08:40

    City Council What a load of B&%^. You got some complaints, Whats the kickback for city council. Free lunches

  • Shame on you
    May 14, 2014 - 08:38

    I see Liam Dolan is using his title from Restaurnats Canada for his own use. No doubt he would not want these small vendors in his area! There is a wonderful thing in business and life called competition. It's what keeps us honest and strong. I would not do business in Charlottetown if someone passed me the keys to a business for free. It is the chosen few like the Dolans who own the council. Shame on you Charlottetown.

  • Pete
    May 14, 2014 - 08:28

    Very disappointed in Charlottetown city council and even moreso in the restaurants that complained. The article doesn't state exactly which restaurants complained but it is evident who one of them is. It has always been one of my favorites so I am sad that they would stoop to this level. We can't change who Restaurants Canada appoints as their president but we can change who we elect to city council this fall. This story is already starting to hit the national news websites ... what an embarrassment when tourism operators and organizers are working so hard to promote tourism in this special year.

  • Amanda
    May 14, 2014 - 07:32

    Guess I will be visiting other areas in PEI besides downtown Charlottetown...way to lose business! That's ok...I'm sure other vendors in other areas of this beautiful province will appreciate my business.

  • lou lou annie
    May 14, 2014 - 07:29

    Charlottetown does not end at down town...why do some of these mobile food shacks not move closer to the other end of University Ave. Many people work at the other end and have no desire to drive uptown but would LOVE to have a few more places to go at dinnertime. Maybe it could be seen more as an opportunity.

  • Wade
    May 14, 2014 - 07:27

    Yet another example of why Charlottetown is the worst place in Canada to do business.

  • WeHateSmallBusiness
    May 14, 2014 - 07:26

    I bet I can guess three of the restaurant's that complained! One vote equals four, nicely done.

  • if you don't agree with decision lets take action
    May 14, 2014 - 07:23

    So the big guys don't want any competition from a food truck eh not saying much for the fine quality dining of there establishments if they afraid of a fry truck! They should both be allowed to operate because there is a market for both. It is so wrong to deny these vendors because of the greed of the big guys! So I agree with take action above. Griping on here wont help these vendors. If we want to support them and we want an affordable option for downtown then lets take action and contact/email the council members. Addresses above. Im sending mine now.

  • Disgusted
    May 14, 2014 - 07:23

    Hard enough to make a living here on PEI. Why pick on the little people. Tourist and Islanders love these vendors. Best food around in most cases and reasonably priced. I think your biggest problem is Liam Dolan, is he not the owner of Peakes. I also think parking in town is bad enough we certainly can't afford to lose more to patio's.

    • w kennedy
      May 14, 2014 - 11:27

      Sounds exactly right. Not sure who Dolan is though?

  • if you don't agree with decision lets take action
    May 14, 2014 - 07:23

    So the big guys don't want any competition from a food truck eh not saying much for the fine quality dining of there establishments if they afraid of a fry truck! They should both be allowed to operate because there is a market for both. It is so wrong to deny these vendors because of the greed of the big guys! So I agree with take action above. Griping on here wont help these vendors. If we want to support them and we want an affordable option for downtown then lets take action and contact/email the council members. Addresses above. Im sending mine now.

  • Tater salad
    May 14, 2014 - 07:19

    It's an outrage that these operators have to face this opposition from the uninformed at city hall all the way to the restaurant giants on the waterfront. I find it hard to imagine how they or anyone else are threatened by these entrepreneurs trying to forge a living by providing a service in a niche market. It's red tape and greed that they are keeping small business people from making a mark and striving forward with their own businesses. The culinary cultures diversity is trying to be expressed by these (and other) folks; and now that PEI is somewhat of a culinary destination, they should be able to have their thin slice of the pie as a reward for their hard work , determination and dedication to their chosen profession. I for one hope that they will continue to able to operate and present their products that better represent our Islands products and put a face the ones that work hard to present it to the accepting public.

  • Seeing the pattern
    May 14, 2014 - 07:18

    The rules will change again when the Murphy's get given that government concession stand

  • Ruled to Death
    May 14, 2014 - 07:11

    This is unfortunate. Don't forget, the cruise ship passangers have all their meals included in their fare. In order to eat on land, they are not really looking for an expensive meal. They will spend less money on a smaller meal...Better that that not buy anyting!!

  • Cb
    May 14, 2014 - 07:05

    Look out your chip shack front window and tell me what you see? Peakes starting at you. Who owns peakes? The rich dude that sits on the top of the committee that blocked you. :) not nice is it? Happens all over town.

  • chrisc
    May 14, 2014 - 06:57

    What an effin joke!! Let her have her chip stand ya clowns!

  • Take Action
    May 14, 2014 - 06:46

    These councilors will continue to pander to big money in Charlottetown unless people speak up. Make them know that this is not acceptable. mayor@charlottetown.ca dredmond@charlottetown.ca rlantz@charlottetown.ca mitchell.tweel@pei.sympatico.ca smacfadyen@charlottetown.ca dmacdonald@charlottetown.ca cvillard@charlottetown.ca jascoady@charlottetown.ca mhilton@charlottetown.ca tbernard@charlottetown.ca

  • Billy
    May 14, 2014 - 06:44

    This is ridiculous . The big guys don't like competition so they want them shut down if there were health issues with those places that's a different story. Give them a licence and let them operate, they are just another good alternative for the city.

  • Dolan
    May 14, 2014 - 06:37

    Liam Dolan you are an embarrassment. You should be disqualified from your position because of obvious conflict of interest. Charlottetown council, you are all an embarrassment. Get your heads into the 21st century and stop stifling business. Get out pockets of Dolan and the Murphy's and stop harassing small business owners who want to compete.

  • Really??
    May 14, 2014 - 06:32

    Sorry, but not fair. Those vendors were the first ones out of the gate. so what about the larger restaurants? There folks are hardly competition for the larger operations. Really……who wears the big boy pants in Charlottetown anyway? Shame shame city council. how about playing fair??

  • voter
    May 14, 2014 - 06:30

    GENTLE TOURIST TRAP OF NORTH AMERICA -- GENTLE high prices for all CITIZENS & tourists in Charlottetown and all of PEI

  • Not impressed
    May 14, 2014 - 05:58

    We are a family of four and on a tight budget. When we frequent Charlottetown we love to go to the water front and Peaks Quay. Our kids get hungry and we can afford to treat our family to a meal at these very places you now say are not allowed to operate. Many familes are in the same position as us on PEI so shame on you Charlottetown. As long as they are clean and running to standard they should be allowed to operate. So I guess this summer IF we visit the down town Charlottetown area we will have to take a bag lunch with us. Because we can treat our family of four to the restaurants that are over priced.

  • crazy
    May 14, 2014 - 05:51

    The Orange Lunchbox is an attraction, people would make a special trip in town for it. It doesn't make sense to deny two local vendors that make a strong effort to use and advertise local products. I hope they reconsider.

    • Agree
      May 14, 2014 - 07:09

      Agree. This truck has an excellent reputation, and the restaurant had Gotta Eat Here at their place last year.

  • jim
    May 14, 2014 - 05:32

    At least those vendors are not taking parking spaces from downtown. Hard enough any time to get a parking space.

  • City?
    May 14, 2014 - 05:11

    Another reason not to go into ch,town! One of the worst run cities in canada! I hope things work out good for both venders I,m sure summerside will take u with open arms

    • patrick
      May 14, 2014 - 06:29

      I agree.

    • Plus
      May 14, 2014 - 07:16

      Plus even Montague or Souris - take it out of the big city. Too much of local govt is run by the old boys who like to think they are too important, & only their opinion counts. Time to re-elect new people in the next election - provincially and municipality. Certainly can't do worse than what is in office now. Probably do a lot better all round. Politicians get way too comfortable when they are in office more than 2 terms.

    • Wayne M
      May 14, 2014 - 07:40

      Come on , its only fries they serve. Give them a break . Once again the big guys win. Prices are out of control in the big restaurants, why not look at that.

    • don
      May 14, 2014 - 08:05

      sorry s'side will not they operate the same only the guys with deep pockets runs this area. they only allow food trailers during certain times a year.

    • therod
      May 14, 2014 - 08:12

      While I agree that this is a farse...if you think Charlottetown is among the worst run cities in Canada you really need to get out more.