Olive Crane kicked out of PC caucus

Teresa Wright
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Former Progressive Conservative Leader Olive Crane has been kicked out of caucus and will now sit as an independent MLA in the P.E.I. legislature.

PC Leader Steven Myers made the decision Friday afternoon after a day of closed-door meetings.

He informed Crane of his decision by telephone. She was coaching a youth soccer game at the time. She says she was blindsided and was given no explanation.

“He said he ‘hated to have to do this on the phone but you’re going to be kicked out of caucus.’ I found that really shocking,” Crane said in an interview with The Guardian.

“I asked why, and he said, ‘It’s just not working with you here.’ And that was basically it. That was at 10 (minutes) to four.”

It was a dramatic twist for the party that has been mired in turmoil and internal power struggles for the last year.

Just over 24-hours previous to this, another member of the PC caucus, Tignish-Palmer Road MLA Hal Perry, dropped the bombshell he was crossing the floor to join the governing Liberal caucus.

He said he felt muzzled by the party and had been considering leaving for the past nine months.

Crane spoke to The Guardian later in the day Thursday saying she believes Perry’s defection was the result of a group of party insiders who tried to oust her as leader last year, resulting in a year of internal struggles that have aired publicly and embarrassingly for the party.

Myers says Crane’s interview with The Guardian Thursday broke a promise that was made during a caucus meeting earlier in the day that no MLAs would speak with media following a brief news conference held to offer reaction to Perry’s departure.

“We had agreed as a caucus about how we would deal with Hal’s defection,” Myers said.

“To have somebody go off on their own and do a private interview… we can’t have stuff like that as a party that is trying to rebuild.”

Myers said this has been an ongoing concern with Crane and felt this was the last straw.

“This isn’t something that’s new. And we hear Hal (Perry) saying yesterday he was working against us for nine months. This has been my life for nine months. We need to rebuild as a party, we need to move on, we need to put things behind us that are in the past and that’s what I’m trying to do.”

But Crane lays the blame for her removal from caucus squarely on the party’s ‘backroom,’ which she believes pressured Myers to get rid of her.

“It’s very clear that there’s a small group that has wanted me away from the party and out of the party for a long time and they have never stopped,” Crane said.

“No backroom is ever going to tell me what to do. They pulled the plug because I was standing up for something that I’m passionate about, the district and the people of P.E.I. Too bad.”

Last November, while Crane was still party leader, a group of party insiders tried to force a leadership review. It culminated in a dramatic meeting of the membership that saw Crane narrowly emerge victorious.

“It’s very clear that there’s a small group that has wanted me away from the party and out of the party for a long time and they have never stopped,” Independent MLA Olive Crane

After several weeks of fallout, Crane finally quit as leader. This led to confusion over who was in charge when Perry briefly held the title of Opposition Leader while at the same time Myers was Interim party leader.

Since then, the party has plunged in the polls, now sitting behind the NDP for the first time in the province’s history.

Myers takes strong issue with any suggestion he is being controlled by anyone in the party or that the backroom is pulling strings.

“It’s unfortunate that we’re still talking about backroom boys… I had discussions with people in the party today and asked their opinions on it, and I made my decision,” he said.

“I take responsibility for the decision.”

Myers says he wants to pick up the pieces and move on from the turmoil that has dogged the party for the last year. He hopes moving forward on planning for a leadership convention can do that.

Crane says she has no regrets and will continue her work in the legislature, now as an independent PC MLA.

“And don’t think I’m going to give the premier or the Liberal government a free ride,” she added.

 

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  • Relic
    October 08, 2013 - 09:45

    The PC are determined to keep making bad decision after bad decision. Go to the NDP Olive, I will be right behind you and I hope many Islanders will follow before the next election. The Liberals are bankrupting the Province, so they are not an option for another term.

  • Joe Blow Windy City
    October 07, 2013 - 13:25

    Steven Myers should change his name to Pinnochio cuz I think I saw I saw his nose growing when he said the three Musketeers made this decision to kick Crane out of office. As for backroom boys and girls, all parties have them, Ghiz has them too. They are the people who get these jokers elected, they don't always get anything for the work they do but they have clout . The high and mighty ones are the presidents of riding association they usually get some perks getting family and friends jobs. Or the people working in there offices I bet THE PC have some former candidates running there backroom!

  • Stephen Iceberg
    October 06, 2013 - 10:09

    The National Film Board of Canada should produce a documentary of the Conservative Party of P.E.I. for the 2014 celebrations . They could call it "The Three Stooges meet the Fathers of Confederation." They already have Larry, Moe and Curley Joe in the party so it should be a big hit.

    • Garth Staples
      October 07, 2013 - 12:11

      Agreed.

    • Joe
      October 07, 2013 - 14:05

      I agree what a bunch of Keystone Kops and

  • Garth Staples
    October 06, 2013 - 05:23

    A strange turn of events. Myers, Alyward, La Vie are PC MLA's by the grace of Olive Crane as leader of the PC Party she signed their candidates' papers. Talk about gratitude.

  • don
    October 05, 2013 - 23:23

    myers i just listened to your news video. and it is a screw up just like you are you said "everyone walked out with the same message but thats not how it it went down" make up your mind you made if you walked out with the same message then how is it it did not go down that way? and i did not hear in the media anywhere that you were voted in as leader. you will NEVER see a 2nd term. your party will never see it selves in the house come next election you will be in 4th place. i hope mrs crane can start her own party and whip you all out. she is there for the people and honest she wanted the truth about the pnp to come out but your boss' the back room kids could not have that happen. but in time we will be the only place in Canada that WILL NOT have a pc party. i hope you can get your old job back.

  • Den
    October 05, 2013 - 17:44

    In reality, there's no one to vote for. They are all crooks and as far as voting NDP, like one poster said, look at NS and the mess that's going on over there. I'd vote for the Marxist-Leninist party if they had one, just to protest and for spite.

    • Seriously?
      October 05, 2013 - 23:17

      Just to clarify: Why exactly ought PEI voters judge the PEI NDP and Redmond by reference to the NS NDP and Dexter? Do you judge the PEI Liberals according to the policies and actions of Christy Clark in BC? Do you judge the PEI PCs according to the policies and actions of Ms. Redford in Alberta? Seriously, if not then why is the local NDP always held to this weird double standard? Please explain.

    • Garth Staples
      October 07, 2013 - 12:19

      Seriously: NDP claim to be homogenous across Canada. The Liberal Party is so called. It is a PC Party in policy. The Conservatives and Liberals in BC join forces to keep the socialist hordes out. A good thing. The first PM of Canada lead a Party called the Liberal-Conservatives and was conservative oriented. The newly elected Liberal -Conservative Govt of Australia is a conservative govt. which defeated the socialists--read NDP.

    • Seriously?
      October 07, 2013 - 17:16

      Garth: None of which answers the question. Which was not put to you, anyway. Given your own impeccable record of ceaseless cheerleading for Mr. Harper and his pals in every letter you have submitted to this newspaper during his time in office, I would, with all due respect, hardly be inclined to consider your comments on the matter to be either "unbiased" or "objective". The question stands.

  • Let's keep this simple
    October 05, 2013 - 16:09

    This situation is neither unpredictable nor complicated. And we're not dealing with deep thinkers, so it's time for simple math: Myers couldn't serve his puppet master Mike Currie (supporter of Ballem) because there was a stalemate in caucus - two for, two against. One leaves - no more stalemate; Alyward shows his true colours, Currie/Myers get what they want.

  • don
    October 05, 2013 - 15:23

    mrs crane maybe you start your own party. and called it the real islanders party. the lib and pc members are in for the money and power. at least with you and pat i know as do many islanders you 2 got booted out for being to honest and not bowing down to the want to be MEN. and when you wanted to open the PNP books the little boys could not allow it as it would show they are nothing more then poor boys. i know you will stand up for islanders as did your family and mine for many years more then most of the lib and pc boys.« less

    • I Agree
      October 05, 2013 - 17:27

      I agree DON , she should start and lead another party that is made up of people who are honest & not just looking out for themselves . All candidates running for this party should be well vetted before she sign's papers for them . I'm sure there is enough Islanders now that are eager to finally put a end to this stealing - lying & wasting of our hard earned tax dollar . She already has a following of people wanting good goverment & not just handouts . There is 2 1/2 years for the honest to take back this Island . This party would need recall in their platform . I'm not a political person but would really back a move in that direction .

  • not a huge surprise
    October 05, 2013 - 14:38

    Stay strong Olive! Don't let them get to you!

  • george
    October 05, 2013 - 14:38

    vote NDP it the only one left the rest are dummys

  • Back room? Silly talk, crazy, no such thing.
    October 05, 2013 - 13:20

    I know resurrecting this issue will be repulsive to some, especially to those that are annoyed by the truth. But, the "small group" that Olive speaks of is actually part of a slightly larger club; the people who run both traditional parties. The same people that make things happen through the puppets (Plan B, HST, PNP ). If the puppet masters do their job right, the puppets won't even know they're puppets. For many reasons not necessarily tied to intelligence or integrity , a few politicians are very easy to control (Robert Vessey) a few are hard to control (Olive Crane) and most don't even need controlling because they just lie on the stage (pun intended). The pathetic part is that these little comment boxes may have more value than our votes!

    • STOPthePRESSES
      October 05, 2013 - 19:09

      You are quite right in identifying the gang euphemistically referred to as the back room boys. They coexist in both parties and ironically have the others back. Major companies who benefits such as construction and law firms ensure they cover their bases and donate to both parties. The most elite and embedded people of this group know when projects are upcoming – such as the Holland College expansion downtown when decrepit real estate in the neighborhood went up in value immediately… or when land is going to be valuable because it is required for roadwork… Myers is a hapless puppet– Olive didn't play along.

    • The Matricks
      October 05, 2013 - 22:26

      Very well stated. Agent Smith .... we have one who can see.

  • Joe Blow
    October 05, 2013 - 11:41

    Vote NDP!!! That's the main thing to take from this news article. The PC's are a mess...can't vote for them...the Liberals are robbing us blind with scandal after scandal and every patronage appointment....can't vote for them....NDP is the only other wise option. Time for a change!!

    • Keep watch
      October 05, 2013 - 14:45

      Before going off half cocked, you might want to watch (and heed) what is happening in NS election and NDP. Also what scandals are you referring to - do tell.

  • Tired of the drama
    October 05, 2013 - 11:34

    We keep hearing about the "Back room boys", but know one has ever said WHO they are. What are their names? If "they" want to call the shots for the PC party, then why do they not grow a set and put their name on a ballot and run?

  • finger puppet
    October 05, 2013 - 10:37

    I think you have to look lower to see whos directing this show....

  • Tired of the drama
    October 05, 2013 - 10:33

    We keep hearing about the "Back room boys", but know one has ever said WHO they are. What are their names? If "they" want to call the shots for the PC party, then why do they not grow a set and put their name on a ballot and run?

    • Anynymous
      October 05, 2013 - 11:53

      Personally, I think it's all made up stuff used by Crane to distract people. Judge people by their actions. Myers has always been nice to her and praised her in public, which is more than can be said about Crane and what she has said about the party publically.

    • And
      October 06, 2013 - 09:26

      Anynymous and just what should she have said about the party that wouldn't be a lie . This party has sure shown it's colors in the past with the way they treat their own who want's to be part of a honest party & not just a poor second (copy)of the Liberals . Shake your head , you should be ashamed of your self if you believe you have the right to rob & steal our childern's future by running this province the way Binn's did in his last term & Ghiz is doing now . As a old Liberal told me one day , don't get so upset , it's only a game . Well I don't take hurting my kid's future as a game , sorry .

  • Jack In Box
    October 05, 2013 - 10:21

    Just further proof that there is no room in politics for honesty or integrity.

  • Fed up
    October 05, 2013 - 10:13

    SOMEONE needs a boot...but it wasn't Olive Crane! WHAT were you thinking, Myers? I totally agree with draw down the curtains.....I too a strong PC...would NEVER vote for a liar like Ghiz....NDP definite No...take a look at what Dexter did to N.S....so "What Now?"

    • Seriously?
      October 05, 2013 - 21:47

      "...take a look at what Dexter did to NS...."? So what? You think local parties and thier leaders ought be judged by wheat goes on in other provinces with othe rparties and other leaders? So...you think it makes sense for someone to not vote for Ghiz - let's say - because they disagreed with the actions of Jean Charest in Quebec or Christy Clark in BC? Do you also think it makes sense therefore to not vote for the PEI PCs if you disagreed with the policies of Harris in Ontario or Redford in Alberta? Of course not! That would be ridiculous. Only the PEI NDP is to be judged by the actions of others, right? Get real.

  • lloyd
    October 05, 2013 - 09:56

    Slick steve should get a pension for being a backstabber just like hal. I don,t think anybody would vote fo either one again.

  • Islander
    October 05, 2013 - 09:50

    I guess the NDP will be getting my vote next election. Olive should run for the NDP!

  • draw down the curtains; exit stage Right
    October 05, 2013 - 08:32

    Watching this drama is like watching that scene in Wizard of Oz where the wizard is exposed for what he is - a fake. I swear, if you look hard enough (to the right, just off his shoulders) you can actually see the strings moving Myers' body parts and hear someone else's voice coming though his mouth. I'm a card carrying Conservative, but all I feel is that I've been conned . . . certainly not served! I'm never voting Liberal, so where to now? It's just not fair, eh? They can draw down the curtains; exit stage Right. Me? I'm just part of the audience, baffled and confused, not knowing where to go. . .

    • UPWESTER
      October 05, 2013 - 10:21

      Steven Meyers lost 40% of his caucus in one day. Is that how you lead? When leaving this press conference it is rumored he was singing "I'm off to see the Wizard"

    • Who'd a thunk
      October 05, 2013 - 14:49

      Conned by a conservative? What else is new?

  • Holly
    October 05, 2013 - 08:03

    I don't tend to support any particular party in PEI, but I have to say that I respect Steven Myers for what he did. People need to work together and if your not you shouldn't be a part of the team. Tough decision to make, I don't know if any other politician would have the courage to do what he did.

  • Lust thinking
    October 05, 2013 - 07:50

    Taking lessons from dictator Harper, I guess if you are PC you can't think for yourself. Just what the party wants, eh..

  • Big Red
    October 05, 2013 - 07:41

    Hal Perry can go work in Wes Sheridan's department so when the truth comes out about the Geosweep switch and bait (and that's precisely what it is) Wes will have someone else to blame.Do you know what the problem with magic tricks is? sometimes people can prove them to be what they really are.

  • HowIseeIt
    October 05, 2013 - 07:40

    That still photo says it all. They look like a couple of criminals cooking up a plot to overthrow... Looks like the NDP and Greens will be in the race for the next election.

  • mra
    October 05, 2013 - 07:37

    don't you just love when steven myers plans come together. ole "i don't want the job but........."

  • Honest Olive
    October 05, 2013 - 07:36

    Two items come to mind: PNP is the reason they booted her, she is too honest and wanted to get to the bottom = discomfort for many. The Island is in such bad shape, who would want to inherit any of it? Let the Liberals fix the mess.

  • Laughing Liberal
    October 05, 2013 - 07:32

    This party is a joke. Sorry, this voter will be crossing sides too.

    • An opinion
      October 05, 2013 - 14:04

      Personally I never trusted any politician that crosses over mid stream. When you are a grown up you should be well versed in what you believe in and stand for. How could any party gain trust of any politician that does that? Are they capable of standing tall for anything and weathering any storm? Just an opinion.

  • Tracy
    October 05, 2013 - 07:26

    I did not vote PC because of the bully tactics used in the election. Now they stoop to bully each other. There are kindergarten classes better behaved then this party. Steven Myers is NOT a leader. He is a s&%$ disturber. The people who voted him in need to hang their heads in shame . If anyone should resign it is HIM!!! The PC party on PEI is an embarrassment. Oh well, things are looking brighter for the NDP :)

  • jean
    October 05, 2013 - 07:24

    I wonder if Hal was given a reward for crossing the floor? Robert hinted at this, this just shows how crooked Robert Jhiz is. But these are just rumors.

  • Not really
    October 05, 2013 - 07:21

    “To have somebody go off on their own and do a private interview… we can’t have stuff like that as a party that is trying to rebuild.” This is not right. Anyone elected by the people and for the people, has the right to voice an opinion, no matter what the party line is. Party line tends to be the root of many problems in general in politics. Parties forget that they are elected by, and are working for, the people. You work for us. Any party worth its salt will run on putting in a recall option for voters should they, the voters, get very upset with who they voted in. The PC party of PEI needs to join forces, yes, but you also need to come out with it all.. be more open and honest with the people, and fight for the people, not for themselves. If not, Ghiz and cronies will be laughing all the way back in to office, in the next election. This would be totally disastrous for this province.

  • don
    October 05, 2013 - 06:29

    Myers takes strong issue with any suggestion he is being controlled by anyone in the party or that the backroom is pulling strings. you are a fool if you think that. you proved that you are doing as you are told by kicking out Crane.

  • don
    October 05, 2013 - 06:25

    PC Leader Steven Myers made the decision Friday afternoon after a day of closed-door meetings. He informed Crane of his decision by telephone. He as in myers lol you are a puppet you could not make a decision on your own if your life depended on it the back room boys tells you what to do. And you will be kicked out to very soon. But i wonder will it be before the party goes down to ZERO. And tell me are we not in a country where we have free speech? You are all going down the whole party after the next election you will be in 4th place. And to all the card caring members of the pc's after how the babies treated Mrs Crane you are now the lowest in the polls for the 1st time in island history. Are you all that stupid not to see what you have allowed to happen if you can't then you are really brain dead. And again they have NO females in the party the only two they had they forced them out the pc party is for men only. Ladies are scum in the eyes of this group. And they have proved it and most of all Crane would not bow down and be a good little slave and see what happened to her just like mella. So ladies if you strong you are no good to the party. They only want weak females. And they CAN NOT PROVE ME WRONG.

  • Daisee
    October 05, 2013 - 01:40

    OMG a woman said something real. And the biggest joke of ll, the men can't hndle it.

  • Angus
    October 04, 2013 - 23:45

    Time to join the NDP Olive. Pick up a couple of seats and you can lead the official opposition. That'll po Duffy, Myers, Ballem, Curry and Lee for sure.

  • Steven Myers Gets the Boot Tomorrow !
    October 04, 2013 - 22:52

    If Steven Myers thinks he is a leader he better get his head out of the sand! Do you think Islanders are so stupid we can't see you for what you are? A yes man with a little, ahem, ..*power*.. hoping to eventually feed at the trough! News for you Myers- no trough for you- you won't win your seat in the next election! The worst excuse yet for a so called politician.And by the way, no need to blame Harper, or anyone else ---Myers doesn't catch on that he will lose in the end--no he is busy building the party! No common sense! Maybe next week he will get the boot! Now wouldn't that be sweet! Rebuild the Conservative party by booting them all out and sweeping the back room too.Long overdue!

  • About Time
    October 04, 2013 - 21:53

    Its about time someone kicked Olive out-she has caused nothing but grief for this party since stepping down-how soon people forget that Mr Myers tried to save her last fall-she's had her time now its time to move on-and shes the one back stabbing!

  • anonymous
    October 04, 2013 - 21:43

    Yeah yeah yeah, it's always the backroom's fault. God forbid this woman ever took responsibility for her short comings as a politician which unfortunately are many. Just look at her performance in the house when she was leader, very very poor Also her abysmal poll numbers when she quit were all her own doing. What a sore bitter loser this woman is the PC will need some rebuilding. Long term however this was by far the best move.

  • Donnie
    October 04, 2013 - 21:32

    Will the last member of the PEI Tories to leave the party please shut off the lights? Lol!

    • don
      October 05, 2013 - 06:32

      there will be no pc party by the next election.

  • Sam Brace
    October 04, 2013 - 21:01

    Nothing surprises me when it comes to politics, especially with the Conservatives. Mr Myers is simply following in his hero (Harper) footsteps by getting rid of anybody who dares to go against his will, whether they are right or wrong. The NDP are the only real party for PEI.

    • Village people
      October 04, 2013 - 21:52

      What you are saying about the NDP is not true. This is a dangerous idea for the province.. The major issue is that the Liberals seem to be the only alternative. That's what you should be worried about. The NDP will never form government on PEI. That´s why Perry joigned the Liberals, Get real

  • Former Tory
    October 04, 2013 - 20:57

    "Brylcreem Steve" and Company should delete the "Progressive" word just like the Federal Tories did. The Federal Tories and the PEI Tories are not anywhere near 'Progressive'. Get back here Pat Binns. These fellas need you to fix them up!

    • fed up
      October 04, 2013 - 21:44

      I LOVE the term BRYCREAM STEVE!!! He spends more time keeping the hair slicked than dong what he is supposed to do. It is really pathetic what he and Perry have done This would never have happened if Olive was at the helm!!!!!

  • Seriously?
    October 04, 2013 - 20:46

    So....Perry leaves the PC caucus claiming he isn't free to speak his mind on behalf of constituents regarding federal EI policy, Myers publicly denies that Perry is in any way gagged in terms of speaking his mind, and then ejects Crane from the caucus for publicly speaking her mind. And all without even a hint of irony. Love it.

  • Freaky
    October 04, 2013 - 20:29

    Did anyone else hear it, or was it just me? I swear I heard Ballem's voice as Myers was moving his lips . . .

    • Samsquanch
      October 05, 2013 - 07:37

      Either him or Mike Currie!!

  • Islander #2
    October 04, 2013 - 20:26

    I have never been so disgusted reading the news this last two days. I know I will not vote for either one of these parties with such childish behaviour shown by both the Conservative and Liberals they are all acting like school children in my opinion not like leaders. NDP here I come no one could be worst then this.

    • Ask any other province
      October 05, 2013 - 15:14

      Ask any other province that had NDP leadership (notice I said had) and ask them how that worked out for them? You think you have something to belly ache about now??

  • THINK THINK THINK
    October 04, 2013 - 20:24

    How does someone determine to remove the former leader of your party by a phone call? "I hate to do this on the phone?"" Then don't. Get in your car and go meet with her to say why. We live on PEI. It takes an hour or so at the most. This says a lot about the quality of the people left in caucus.

  • fed--up
    October 04, 2013 - 20:23

    Myers-----This is the most ignorant,low--down trick I have ever heard of in my 45 years as a voter. If you think you are scoring points here, you are sadly mistaken. To call a very respectable lady,(who worked very hard for her party,) on the cell phone in the middle of the afternoon, is pretty low--about as low as you can get. Olive has always been a true professional, and would never pull the trick that you did!!!! You should be ashamed of yourself, and the other 2 Wise Men who are with you,might as well get out too. The only chance you had was to let Olive lead the Party, and you blew that!!!! I am embarrassed to say I am a Conservative because of you and Perry.

    • nitpicker
      October 06, 2013 - 07:15

      you're right. If that's not something that needs to be done in person, I don't know what is. A phone call? You don't run things that way.

  • Yikes
    October 04, 2013 - 20:13

    "If you take it in terms of a hockey coach, you need to know that everybody that’s going on the ice is doing the same job.” Well, that's got to be the stupidest thing an Island politician has ever uttered. Then again, if the goalie is playing forward, the defence is on the wings, the coach is between the pipes...yeah, that's how the PC's have been playing for quite a while.

  • disgusted
    October 04, 2013 - 19:59

    As it says in the Bible----only the 3 Wise Men left!!!!! This is ridiculous!!!!

  • Stephen Pate
    October 04, 2013 - 19:50

    FLG are the Tories nuts or what? I guess they want to hand the Liberals the next election. I'm not a Conservative but I like Olive Crane, as do many Islanders. Again, FLG.

  • Hugh Jass
    October 04, 2013 - 19:48

    Well now, the hicks have spoken, haven't they?

    • STOPthePRESSES
      October 04, 2013 - 20:26

      It's not the Hicks who got rid of Olive– it's the powerful elite PC clique of Charlottetown – the ones who benefited from PnP and other 'arrangements' There's no law in Dodge anymore.

  • Garth Staples
    October 04, 2013 - 18:52

    I have been a member of the PC Party in NS, ON, NB and PEI and the Conservative Party of Canada since 1956. The events these past two days are disgusting. The grassroots and the people of PEI will render justice unto those who are of small minds and small actions. Olive Crane is a decent and honest Islander and PC member. She deserves respect for her years toiling for honesty in politics on our behalf. As a member of the PC Party she has many avenues to follow in seeking justice. Go for it Olive.

    • also pc member
      October 04, 2013 - 19:32

      For the past year Olive has done everything to destroy this party! If she was so great where was she? The "backroom" boys weren't at summer socials! She never showed up for anything! Her and Hals' "fraction" have held the party hostage! What Steven did today needs to be congratulated it took nerve but finally the PC PARTY can breath fresh air and position themselves to be a alternative!

  • disappointed
    October 04, 2013 - 18:52

    Myers was the first to critic layoffs via phone then disrespectfully does the same to the former leader..... confidence differs from arrogance... i am a PC through and through but there is a problem here..... who is running this ship... there is a lack of common sense.. and the leadership is out of control... if you call it leadership... i once thought about running for PC as well but wonder if the Perry movement is better ... out of control and a power trip

  • not political
    October 04, 2013 - 18:40

    Well, I have never been political in any way, shape or form BUT I have always voted for the person. I know one thing now--I will not be voting Liberal or PC--no matter who the person is running in my district. Time to give another Party a chance. The Liberals and PC's have made fools of themselves for too long and have driven Islanders into the ground. Time for a change.

  • chesterl
    October 04, 2013 - 18:37

    The View From Martinvale..........A New Low 1. No face to face meeting or to sit down in a respectful manner to settle matters. 2. Seems like when you read the press their no respect being allowed in how to conduct business......and so the PC's continue to fade into the sunset as this gang elected and non elected should...........shameful shameful and no sensible comments forthcoming......"..keep towing the line now that does not exist that way you will never run out of rope."...........

  • Concerned PC Not a Reform member
    October 04, 2013 - 18:30

    Can you say Jellyfish . He nailed it when he said they were just politicians. It's obvious that to be a politician you have to be able to stab your so called friends in the back . This spineless hunk of jelly was a nobody and still is . He is nothing more then a yes man for the people in the shadows pulling the strings who are to spineless to do the deed them self . I was a supporter of this party but NO MORE . I would not vote for this man if he was the last hope on earth . The reform party has ruined the PC party on the island . They are done here .Same as Harper is done . Greed is a funny thing . That PNP must be a big file with big names in it .

    • Long overdue
      October 04, 2013 - 19:55

      The Reform Party? Are you serious? HAHAHA

  • jacinta
    October 04, 2013 - 18:22

    There is a force at work here and it is called the Steven Harper effect, we have two different entities working within the same party. We have the Steven Myers who are part of the Harper team and we have the old Progressive Conservatives as Olive Crane puts it. It is decision time if you are a die hard conservative, and that you are going to have to choose the Hal's who cross the floor to speak out against EI changes which Olive would never do, I am not sure who is going to have much success. or the Steven's who will stand beside Harper no matter the consequence to islander's, in other words, the devil you know or the devil you don't.

  • disappointed
    October 04, 2013 - 17:49

    Myers was the first to critic layoffs via phone and then disrespectfully notifies a former leader of her dismissal the same way.... what is the agenda here boys.. drive your party into the ground.. first offended by Perry jumping ship but as a PC myself wondering if Myers can get along with anyone and does he really know what he is taking about.. it is great to be confident but arrogance lacks intelligence...Crane for premier for putting up with a half brained support team

  • Maybe It's Time
    October 04, 2013 - 17:31

    Maybe it's time for a new Reform Party here on PEI . Olive , what do you think ? If your interested in leading a new Honest Political Party , I'll give you my full support as long as you keep the lying - stealing - fools that are involved in the present Liberal & Conservative parties out . I'm sure you can get grass roots people from the working people of PEI that are honest & believe in honest & fair goverment . You do have a huge following of like mind people who are just waiting for a honest real person to lead them and end this crooked system we have now . Manning done it , you can also . The people on PEI are ready for common a sense party .

  • Amazed
    October 04, 2013 - 17:16

    What a bunch of baffoons! They seem to be doing everything they can to drive votes to the NDP. As an islander who has voted for all parties in the past, based on the credibility and character of the candidates, the provincial tories have become a joke. Add Mike Duffy to the mix, and you have a bunch of people playing with tax payers money and future. Shame on you.

  • still laughing
    October 04, 2013 - 17:13

    I remember back a few years seeing a local conservative putting up a sign saying they couldn't understand Dion's Green Shift proposal. I laughed because I had just read a poll from Denmark, where the green proposal had been in place for years, and it showed that only two percent of Danes didn't understand the Green Shift. I suggested it might not be a good idea to advertise that you're stupider than 98% of Denmark. And, lo and behold, here they go proving that they really are stupider. Atta go boys. Good luck with your next fund raiser.

  • In shock
    October 04, 2013 - 17:05

    This is shocking news. It is time for this party to get their act together once and for all. Grow up people, and put your personal issues with one another aside. It is time for the back roomers to step back, or get out of Dodge and allow this party to heal and build. This has been going on far too long. I'm sure the Liberals are having a field day with this. My money is on James Aylward as being the future leader of the Conservative Party, he has shown maturity, wisdom, professionalism in all he does... As for Hal Perry, when one leaves a party, it is not a good idea to jump the fence, then publicly speak negatively about the party you once represented. Mr Perry, it wasn't that long ago you were bad mouthing the Liberals. You should have just stepped down and ran in the next election. Or, you could have just joined the Liberal Party without slinging mud. Your actions do not show you as a man that one can believe in... Just saying..... As for the NDP, Mr Ready, take this opportunity and run with it. We would like to see more of you in the public eye.... hear more from you, what you stand for and how you plan to do it...

  • Sandra McNab
    October 04, 2013 - 17:01

    Shame, shame Stephen.....why did Perry cross the floor,and why have you and your cronies given Crane the boot?????? Answers, please !!

  • More breaking news
    October 04, 2013 - 16:47

    I wonder if Mr. Myers and Mr. Aylward are aware that a few months ago Mr. LaVie was on board with Ms. Crane and Mr. Perry to sit as independents and send them to the basement with no funding and no status ???

  • Joe Public
    October 04, 2013 - 16:37

    Is it possible to form a government of ONE? It would appear that there is only ONE politician on P.E.I. from any one of the parties that has any intelligence and common sense. That ONE would be Olive Crane. Could we not form a responsible government from the Crane party because we sure as H*ll can't from all the other FOOLS.

  • johnthames
    October 04, 2013 - 16:33

    Looks like the PC's will get the basement office in the Coles Building next time around as Third Party (if they're lucky). Maybe they'll even get the same measly $35K to run their entire legislative function, and maybe they'll be called The Third Party Office. That's if they win even one seat next time around.

  • how stupid can myers get
    October 04, 2013 - 16:16

    I would like to see some of the PC committee call Stephen Myers and tell him where to go even if had to sit outside of the building by him self it might be the best he could do . There is no where in h_ _ _ that he could win a election.

  • DIANE MARIE GASS
    October 04, 2013 - 16:15

    Wow, She was the only one I trusted in this party and the only time I ever voted PC was for Olive. This guy Myers is awful, what a bad representative for the party and the province

  • STOPthePRESSES
    October 04, 2013 - 16:15

    The backroom boys had nothing to lose anymore - no chance of winning the next election so the sooner they could get rid of the most ethical and honest person in their midst, the better. It will likely be an insider free-for-all now - pretty sickening, really. PLEASE people - DO NOT FORGET this sham at the next 3 elections because that is how long it will take to get these embedded jokers out of the backroom pulling strings and ignoring the democratic principles that simply 'get in their way'. Feel so bad for the honest and hardworking people in this party.

    • Long overdue
      October 04, 2013 - 16:44

      It's clear you really have no idea what is going on. There were very good reasons for Crane's removal, but yes, keep droning on about those damn backroom boys.

  • Ron
    October 04, 2013 - 16:14

    With the PCs gutting themselves, now is the time for a real Opposition - the New Democrats.

  • Ron
    October 04, 2013 - 16:12

    With the PCs gutting themselves, now is the time for a real Opposition - the New Democrats.

  • Stupid stupid
    October 04, 2013 - 16:11

    Seriously. This is disgusting. Does the PC party not realize they are under as much scrutiny as the Ghiz Liberals. This will annoy many conservative voters.

  • Digger
    October 04, 2013 - 15:59

    Wow LOL watch the back benchers Myers your next

  • Joe Blow
    October 04, 2013 - 15:55

    HAHAHA....the PC's are a joke anyways. Crane is better off not being a part of this sinking ship. Hal Perry was the named the leader, then the back room boys took that away from him and now he's gone Liberal...and now they kicked the only other credible MLA in Crane out of the party....I hope they never recover from this and I hope the NDP get all the votes in the next election! Time for a party to run this province that isn't a PC or Liberal....we've seen what they can do and it wasn't pretty....time for another party to give it a try.

  • Long overdue
    October 04, 2013 - 15:54

    Oh, poor Olive. I expect there will be lots of people spinning this as the old boys club booting out the only woman in the caucus. The truth is Olive is better suited to the NDP than a conservative party. Olive pulled the PCs left of the Liberals, which isn't easy to do, even in PEI. Olive has built up a powerful faction within the party which has overtaken the actual conservative-minded leadership and taken the party in the wrong direction. It's no wonder that they're still stumbling in the wilderness, no further along now than they were in 2007. Myers nailed it when he said it was for the good of the party. It's tough to function with three members, but it had to be done.

    • It's 2013
      October 04, 2013 - 16:55

      Dude, it's 2013. Olive tried to bring a bunch of drooling old relics into modern times but clearly there are still some who pull the strings of a marionette like myers, who refuse to grow up instead of growing old.

    • Long overdue
      October 04, 2013 - 20:19

      Um, most of the so-called "old relics" are gone. I get that the whole "feisty woman comes in and takes the fight to the backroom boys" narrative plays well, but it simply isn't the case. This had everything to do with ideology and nothing to do with gender or age.

    • THINK THINK THINK
      October 04, 2013 - 20:31

      The thing is that your "old" party is deceased, dead, terminated. Olive was attempting to bring this party into the 21st century but they obviously were not ready for that!

    • Seriously?
      October 05, 2013 - 00:27

      "This had everything to do with ideology"?? What "ideology"? In PEI provincial politics?? You've got to be kidding! OK then: Assuming you're actually serious, how about you provide a concrete example - any example at all - to back up your casual assertion that Ms. Crane "pulled the PCs left of the Liberals". Care to accept the challenge? I'm sure we all anxiously await your detailed reply.

    • ad
      October 05, 2013 - 06:43

      It seems evident that you are a strong supporter and have 'inside' information regarding the party. It's just too bad that the party acts like the federal party and has stopped concerning itself with anything the public or its collective thinks. Unfortunately, the party antics are not being played out under the "cone of silence" agent 86. As far as Olive Crane not showing up on the summer social circuit, she doesn't have to. Olive Crane can pull out as many Conservative votes as she needs to - IF the grass roots of the party EVER supported her. If your party had played nice with her for even five minutes, she could have boosted any party candidate into public acceptance. The current position of your party is not because Olive Crane focused too much on focus PNP or because she was an awful representative, it's because she was undermined every single opportunity by her own party. Trust me I know very well that the back room boys are alive and well - just have to read the opinion column in the paper to see the 'poison pen' at work (a term I learned from a backroom Conservative). You have left the Conservative voters split; whether you think it or not - many of your votes just walked with Olive. She would never be my choice for a leader personally but I would have supported a unified party with a strong message. Unfortunately, the message is - 'no independent thinkers allowed'.

    • L J Bru
      L J Bru
      October 05, 2013 - 07:06

      What party . There is no party left . What the PCs on the island have now is a social clup of 3 that have no direction or clue . They do what they are told and say what they are told to say simple as that .

  • islander
    October 04, 2013 - 15:54

    Steven Myers needs to go he is as bad as harper. really kicking Olive out because she went to the media did she say anything bad about the party? Steven Myers thinks he is Stephen Harper reality check is needed big time

  • Jason White
    October 04, 2013 - 15:47

    I have not been in Olive Crane supporter in the past, but this is not how you tell someone especially after putting their heart and soul into a party for a long time good bye on the phone. The one thing I did like yesterday from the press conference was how she gave praise for somebody who she worked alongside even though they might not be working together any longer or on the same side. The worst part about politics these days is that you have to tow the company line.She towed the company line with dignity even after the fact that she was no longer the head of the party. In the next election I do not want to vote Liberal and I sure don't want to vote for conservative now especially seeing how they treat their own party members. The whole lot of the conservative caucus should be thrown out and start fresh there too many people with too many bad ideas you're not moving anything forward all you're doing is digging a bigger hole for yourself. The next election should have been a shoe in for the conservative party instead it's turning out to be a debacle why would anybody vote for this party.

  • Elizabeth O
    October 04, 2013 - 15:45

    I guess the backroom boys are happy. This is a shame, she is a good person.

  • Islander
    October 04, 2013 - 15:42

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She was the only one I think the people trusted in this party.

    • Julie
      October 04, 2013 - 17:42

      Mr. Myers...are you out of your mind??? the best thing to happen to the PC in years.

  • islander
    October 04, 2013 - 15:38

    Steven Myers needs to go he is as bad as harper. really kicking Olive out because she went to the media did she say anything bad about the party? Steven Myers thinks he is Stephen Harper reality check is needed big time

    • confused
      October 05, 2013 - 10:22

      Islandees are in a mess Who wants to vote Liberal and in my opinion it is easy for NDP to criticize but they are definately not the ones to govern this province. So who will we vote for??? Stop blaming Harper for all the bad things that are happening in PEI we have had the worst government in the history of this province with the present government.

    • confused
      October 05, 2013 - 10:23

      Islandees are in a mess Who wants to vote Liberal and in my opinion it is easy for NDP to criticize but they are definately not the ones to govern this province. So who will we vote for??? Stop blaming Harper for all the bad things that are happening in PEI we have had the worst government in the history of this province with the present government.