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Charlottetown council doesn't want to fund school cop on its own

Const. Tim Keizer chats with Jacob Trebilcock and Kip Dickie, Colonel Gray students. Guardian file photo

Const. Tim Keizer chats with Jacob Trebilcock and Kip Dickie, Colonel Gray students.

Published on March 16, 2013
Published on March 15, 2013
Nigel Armstrong  RSS Feed

Const. Tim Keizer has been keeping office hours at Coloney Gray High School

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Coloney Gray High School , Colonel Gray High School , The Guardian , Charlottetown

As beneficial as Const. Tim Keizer has been as a police officer in Colonel Gray High School, the city isn’t going to support such a program all on its own, council was told Monday.

Coun. Mitchell Tweel asked, during the March council meeting, if the police committee debated the merits of totally funding the school-based police officer on the basis of good community policing.

“We know it’s warranted, we know it’s justified, have we looked at that option?” said Tweel. “We have another high school in our city, that of Charlottetown Rural. I’m also a strong proponent of having a police officer stationed at that school.

“The entire community is on side so I’m wondering if we are ready to go to the next level of having a police officer at Charlottetown Rural?” asked Tweel.

“No, the city has not given any thought to funding the police officer positions unilaterally,” said Coun. David MacDonald, chair of the city’s protective services committee. “It’s the wrong message to send.”

MacDonald said that school-based police officers deal with files that originate from the justice system, health and social services and the education department.

“Those are provincial government responsibilities and the city is not going to be funding provincial government responsibilities,” said MacDonald.

“Have those departments agreed with the city that it is indeed their responsibility and are they prepared to put money on the table to pay for the police officer?” asked Tweel.

“They are not in full agreement with that assessment,” said MacDonald.

One provincial department supports the idea of joint funding, said MacDonald, but he would not say which one.

He said that a committee has been struck with representatives from the provincial departments and the city to meet over the summer to continue negotiations on the police-in-the-schools issue.

Meanwhile, Keizer remains at Colonel Gray thanks to community fundraising.

The pilot program that put Keizer full time in the school was to run just for the month of September, but in October funding was extended by the city to December. When that extension was granted, MacDonald said it would cost about $100,000 per year to fully fund the project in the future. In January the city said it will cost an additional$30,000 just to keep the pilot project running until June but neither the city nor the province has yet committed any money to that end.

Colonel Gray principal Kevin Whitrow told The Guardian recently that community groups and parents came to the school offering to raise funds to keep Keizer at the school to the end of this teaching year.

The school said it has not sought funding, but has been approached with offers.

Coun. Danny Redmond wanted to know about the $30,000 figure being quoted at this point in the debate.

What exactly is that money for, asked Redmond?

It is “salary dollars only,” said MacDonald, to pay for a replacement officer for regular patrols while the school officer is on the job.

“We are going to take one police officer out of the general circulation of police services for nine months every year so that person is going to have to be replaced,” said MacDonald.

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  • Username
    take the zoo out of PEI schzools
    - March 19, 2013 at 09:18:24

    The idea of a zoo-keeper in school is moot because animals hate the trainer. He is a walking uniform, IMHO. However, what every serious student DO want are secure classrooms and hallways, where civility prevails. The Cop is there to lend a false sense of sanity to those serious students, who are impervious to drugs anyway. His presense may remind the druggies and pushers and fringe elements that they are persona non grata, but they still prey on the poor and illiterate (a kind of Anus of Green Gables). A cop in a city high school speaks volumes about the failure of educational "institutions" to provide security and to engage the young in discussing how to invigotate the social contract: I will be a good citizen if society does its job. Schools have never cared about anyone, which is why they are called institutions.

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    BobertBhiz
    - March 17, 2013 at 12:07:53

    Bill Kays, I have say, I find myself in the rare moment of agreeing with you. A deputized citizen, if the school board's insurance company agrees to it, might be acceptable. I wonder, however, how much cheaper this solution would be. I know Const. Keizer personally, and I think his being there is nothing short of ideal. If it's not economically possible to have this ideal situation, I see no real problem with having a deputized citizen, in uniform, in Tim's place.

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  • Username
    Bearer of reality
    - March 17, 2013 at 11:59:41

    Sorry to tell you, but one officer in schools will not get rid of the corruption on PEI, that starts via inhouse cleaning.....

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  • Username
    Grants a crazy person and like a bad rash you can't get rid of
    - March 17, 2013 at 11:54:05

    You need to go back to where you come from, and take your craziness with you, and stop hacking peoples video games and computers for f-sakes, it doesn't make an ounce of sense, and only serves to shoot flares at people, you are quite obviously the worst ever at whatever you think you are MR Amazing at.... WORST EVER.

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  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    - March 17, 2013 at 11:39:07

    If the school thinks it is necessary, the person would not necessarily have to be a policeman. Could the school not hire a concerned deputized unemployed person at minimum wage (or 2 people) thus offering protection for the students, frees up a trained police officer for other things, lowers our unemployed rate, or can no one in government think for themselves. Not all people in government are idiots, just the decision makers. That statement is not really fair or true either. Even the decision makers know the right decision to make most of the time, but then they have their loyalties to consider, and that is why bad decisions get made.

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  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    - March 17, 2013 at 11:37:34

    If the school thinks it is necessary, the person would not necessarily have to be a policeman. Could the school not hire a concerned deputized unemployed person at minimum wage (or 2 people) thus offering protection for the students, frees up a trained police officer for other things, lowers our unemployed rate, or can no one in government think for themselves. Not all people in government are idiots, just the decision makers. That statement is not really fair or true either. Even the decision makers know the right decision to make most of the time, but then they have their loyalties to consider, and that is why bad decisions get made.

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    m
    - March 17, 2013 at 10:39:51

    I think that if the parents of that school want a policeman on duty there they should pay for it , not the rest of us. Parents need to take responabilty for thier childrens actions, and need to stop trying to be thier friends. I hate the idea of my tax dollars being used because of irresposible adults raising even worse kids.

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    A Student's Opinion
    - March 17, 2013 at 10:02:13

    If you have a narrow minded outdated definition of policing, then this project will look absurd. If you think a police officer in a school is just to snag and bag "bad guys" then this project will look absurd. If you think that the only reason for a police officer is to frighten others with their authority, this project will look absurd. If you think that police can't teach and learn, and that us students can't learn and teach, this project will look absurd. However, isn't what's really absurd the people who think that way?

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      Gray Grad
      - March 17, 2013 at 12:33:31

      We need the constabulary in the schools and that is obsurd. When one goes to school what should one expect? Teachers and learners: that is what one should expect. Policing is only partially about crime and 100% about supporting policy, we get that. Policing in school need not be supported by the constabulary, but by teachers and students. It is a sad commentary on us, your parents, that you need cops in school. Sad commentary indeed.

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    John G
    - March 17, 2013 at 08:30:49

    Why start a new program like putting police officers in schools. They may be needed there but I think they're needed in the trouble spots around the province much much more. Why can't the police make a few walk throughs every day at both high schools as well as their regular patrols of the city. The RCMP could be asked to do the same elsewhere' Heaven only knows that Montaque could use help as well as the rest of the province.

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    Observer
    - March 17, 2013 at 05:53:56

    Wasn't really in favour of this when it started, but it appears that the young people are relating well to the officer. My thought is today that if it stops a few kids from getting into trouble which often costs society much more than the officer's salary....then it is valid. Having an officer there and respected not only puts a name and face to Island police officers, it provides the feeling of personal safety to some teens. Has anyone looked into the statistical data of hopefully lower crime, drug, violence related events in this area or demographic during this past year? Numbers speak volumes.

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    don
    - March 16, 2013 at 20:22:33

    why should the tax payer help pay this when no other schools get this special treatment? but then i guess it just shows the bad ones are in this school. and the staff can't control them like other schools on PEI.

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    inspector gadger
    - March 16, 2013 at 19:01:46

    here an idea stop back filling ditches that cost so much money and put police officer in the school, as i seen a certain politician ditch filled and his whole driveway paved, while everone on the block only got a little patch done

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