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Community donating money for police in school program

Colonel Gray High School Guardian photo

Colonel Gray High School

Published on March 8, 2013
Published on March 8, 2013
Ryan Ross  RSS Feed
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Gray High School , Charlottetown police Const. Tim Keizer , Charlottetown

Colonel Gray High School could keep its police officer a little longer thanks to donations from the community.

Principal Kevin Whitrow said the hope is there will be enough money to keep Charlottetown police Const. Tim Keizer working at the school through to the end of the school year.

"The goal is to get a full year of data, a full year of experience so we would know really how the program did benefit the students and the school and the community," he said.

Keizer has been working at Colonel Gray since the school year started as part of a pilot project, but the program was supposed to end in January when funding dried up and neither the city nor the province were willing to pay for the rest of year.

Since then, members of the community have been stepping up to help keep him in place.

Whitrow said the school wasn't soliciting money, but rather a lot of parent and community involvement led to the donations.

"It was more a case of the community coming to us than us going to the community," he said.

Although he didn't know exactly how much money had been raised as of Thursday, Whitrow said it was close to what was needed for Keizer to finish out the year and he has been told there is at least enough to keep the officer at the school until the end of April.

"There's certainly energy to try and make sure that we do have a full year of experience to know what's accomplished at each part of the school year," he said.

While at the school Keizer has been dealing with many different issues, including drug use with about 40 per cent of Colonel Gray students reportedly abusing or using drugs this year.

Although Keizer's time at the school was supposed to end in January, Whitrow said he is still there working teachers' hours.

Whitrow said the community donations aren't meant to be a long-term solution and he thinks data from the pilot project will show it was a valuable, effective program.

"Absolutely," he said.

Coun. David MacDonald, chair of Charlottetown's protective and emergency services committee, said he had no doubts the program would save money in the long run through prevention.

"This has been a very successful thing," he said.

MacDonald said the city doesn't have any more money for the program this year, but it is willing to extend Keizer's time at Colonel Gray if someone else comes up with the necessary funding.

"Without any sustainable funding, long term in place from the province then we can't run this program again," he said.

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  • Username
    kat
    - March 11, 2013 at 13:35:40

    Although police presence in schools may logically seem like a good idea, there are no studies showing that the presence of police officers decrease crime rates, violence, etc. To change such issues this will have to include the great efforts of the community, professionals (social workers, police officers, health promotion professionals, teachers, parents, etc.) one simple change to the system will not make all the problems go away.

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  • Username
    Wow to Time to take responsibility PARENTS
    - March 10, 2013 at 14:45:05

    Wow! "Time to take responsibility PARENTS" your parenting style is so much different than mine. My husband and I did the best job that we could, providing love, support, and encouragement to our three wonderful children. What they did with that strong foundation was out of our control. We will not be held responsible for every mistake they make in life. We ALL make mistakes. You would be wise to listen to the advice of Ann Landers as it will save you a lot of self-blame if your child does make a mistake in life. Here is part of a letter she wrote to parents "To you and the thousands of other parents who are miserable because of "what you have done" to your children, I say this: Stop beating yourselves up. You did the best you could with the tools at hand — inexperience, clay feet, the works. No one knows why some children turn out to be champions in spite of parents who provide precious little emotional nourishment, while other kids — who are loved, wanted, tenderly nurtured and have all the so-called advantages — turn out perverse, estranged and unable to cope. / I have come to believe in a genetic factor that has been ignored by many behavioral "experts." We all inherit our nervous systems, and if the nervous system is fragile, it places severe limitations on what a person can tolerate. / Certain individuals are born survivors. They can withstand life's harshest blows and emerge the stronger for it. Others crumble in the face of minor adversity. The same fire that melts butter can make steel strong." God bless all the families going through adversity with your children. There is no one we love more than our own child. When we can't take away their pain, it hurts.

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    Crys
    - March 10, 2013 at 00:01:56

    To TIME TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY PARENTS----seriously?! Do you have a clue at all what your mumbling about? You obviously didn't have a clue what I was talking about. By protective parent, that's ALWAYS there when needed, raised with manners, respect for himself, AND others, he was so smart, and had a supportive family. My brother was one of my best friends. But because we (my mother, father and myself) didn't know symptoms of drug use or how much pressure he was getting from friends we didn't catch it in time. He has been on a downwards spiral ever since, and it's been about 5-6 years. He is a shell of what he use to be. The fact is I would have loved for him to have this support in school. I bet a lot of other people out there wish they had this support for their family members that are now addicted. And another thing, murder and drug use? My gosh get your stuff together. They are not even comparable....and by the way, my mother does feel guilty EVERY DAY. But it's not her fault. It's not my fathers fault, and it's not my fault. She has tried to get him help repeatedly, and myself and my family have tried to help. I really hoping that you never have to deal with an addict, because it sucks. You know them, but thy are so far away from being the person that you knew. And people like you that have stereotypes of addicts (apparently because people should NEVER make mistakes) really get on my nerves. They don't deserve help? How about we try to make things preventative. Give these kids the extra support they are going to need. They are still kids until they turn 18....so yes they need guidance. And not just from family. Not every kid is capable or comfortable talking to their parents. And you can teach your daughter to manage her life when her friends are pressuring her? Good for you! Maybe you should be a life coach.....end rant :)

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  • Username
    Premier shows his patronage appt more impt
    - March 9, 2013 at 17:01:25

    Putting the debate over how our schools have come to this point, being put aside for a moment. This police officer has been helpful for the school and students. The premier priorities and priorities on how money should be spent: 1. Premier and his cronies put more time, importance and effort into trying to get hired for another year, an ex political mla to do nothing except collect a 60,000 salary because she is friend of premier; but 2. PREMIER AND GOV'T simply says no funding for this needed salary to pay to protect and/or help students- NO MONEY, NO HELP. This says so much of what is important to this govt and shows the downhill rollerrcoaster ride we have been on and will continue to go down. the gov;t is run in a way that has no concern for the citizens, except those who are relatives and close friends.

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  • Username
    Give me a break
    - March 9, 2013 at 13:04:48

    If these kids had PARENTS that had any brains , they would'nt need a cop @ a school!!! There were drugs around when I went to school BUT I was brought up in a caring family & I KNEW the consequences & the end results of drugs ,so I stayed clear of them. It all starts with the parents...............if they are not supportive & involved in their kids life , then it is down hill from here, Nuf said!

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  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    - March 9, 2013 at 12:06:08

    If the city cannot afford to protect its children at this or any other school what good are they? Our children are our investment in our future, therefore they should be our number 1 priority. There is plenty of money in all our governments purses to do the things necessary to protect not only our children but the rest of our population as well. What we do not have is the political will to do it. It is that simple, it comes down to priorities. Instead it spends our money to help their friends businesses. It is NOT governments business to help business and our governments have to realize that. A business must stand on its own, even if your best bud is the premier. If we short change our children now it will come back to haunt us.

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    Sandy MacKay
    - March 9, 2013 at 09:01:37

    Is the goal to prevent drug use. Maybe another solution is like at airports. A trained dog wanders the airport with its handler this dog would certAinly deter me as he caught someone while we were in the line up. The dog could tour the schools and all of pei could benefit

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  • Username
    Sandy MacKay
    - March 9, 2013 at 08:51:30

    Sad to see that police are required in a school.

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  • Username
    justice observer
    - March 9, 2013 at 05:42:19

    The money could come from doing away with one or both Deputy Police Chiefs, that would be a total savings of over $200,000. Neither of them actually perform real police work, they are only bureaucrats.

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  • Username
    Quintinus the mole and Furby the crook
    - March 8, 2013 at 23:44:58

    I can tell you where a whole lot of problems have come from, but hey, I'm not related to the great western PEI police dynasty of the 40% fail, lets see. A report stated that about 40% of CPS officers were not doing their jobs correctly, 40% drug use rate, 40% drop out rate, 40% with literacy issues and and Island drowning in child porn and cocaine, up until a few years ago bootleggers, which were not really bootleggers than really illeagal bars and crack houses all over PEI. But hey, must be a conspiracy in the video games with the Hells Angels or something, hack those, and make sure to drive around in circles looking for clues in the license plates and t-shirts and baseball hats, and be sure to steal those college funds, dirtbags,

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    Dundas Sue
    - March 8, 2013 at 21:42:22

    So what about the Rural? Do they not also have drug problems that could benefit from this kind of work?

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    Just The Facts
    - March 8, 2013 at 19:23:39

    There is something fundamentally wrong with our city/Island society when we conclude there is a NEED to have a police officer permanently stationed on school grounds. If all parents were doing their jobs properly, perhaps this would not be necessary. For people of my boomer generation, it is downright scandalous to have "cops in the classroom". The high school should be a place of learning, not a re-hab facility for kids who use drugs. We've come to rely on our over-taxed schools to handle every problem that arises with kids. Responsibility for raising a decent human being rests firstly and always with the mother and father. If some of these trouble-making students were dealt with more severely, perhaps even permanently expelled from school, maybe the neglectful parents would wake up and do their jobs. I'd rather my tax dollars be spent educating the wayward Moms and Dads instead of policing school corridors.

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    • Username
      Crys
      - March 9, 2013 at 08:25:21

      Are you kidding me?! Your 'boomer generation' was how long ago? Kids in high school, even junior high school face issues with drugs and bullies everyday. I will agree that yes A FEW parents are not involved and some kids are misguided, but being the sister of an addict (and it started when my brother was in high school) my parents were always involved with him. My mother was VERY protective of him and she had to know everywhere he was, who he was with etc. but when parents don't know the signs or understand them, it's quite hard to pinpoint. And a lot of kids don't feel comfortable talking to their parents. Kicking the kid out of school is going help them how? So they can get more involvedin drugs? I think you need to get your thinking up to the times. Everything is not black and white, and we can not deal with every kid the same. If it helps talking to a police officer, keep him there. I would rather spend my taxpayer money on something that is going to help these kids like a trained police officer. The school is still a place of learning. And this police officer is teaching them how to deal with things and how to get help. Talking to him doesn't mean the school is is a rehab facility either. Which is good because they are a joke here in PEI. The point is to stop them from actually needing rehab. I think the city saying they have no funding is BS. This is a good program, but we don't have the money for it, but if someone else wants to pay, we are OK with it....seriously?

    • Username
      It's more than just the facts . . .
      - March 9, 2013 at 10:46:22

      There is something fundamentally wrong with our city/Island society when we conclude that policing is just blame, shame, snag and bag. Police officers can be proactive and very educative. They can bring real world experiences to issues and make sure our youth understand policing as something much more then personified punishment. And the learning flows both ways. So too do our police officers get a chance to interact with youth in a manner that may generate more empathy for the complexities of their mutual concerns and situations. Kudos to the school, the police officer(s) and those willing to support this project. This is the opposite of a Plan B, HST, and PNP scam . . . this is driven by the people.

    • Username
      Realistic Parent
      - March 9, 2013 at 10:54:17

      It is this type of thinking that is perpetuating the problem. You cannot compare your or your children's high school experience to the reality that these kids face every day nor can you continue to blame the parents. How often were you faced with the opportunity of buying or using opiates while in high school? Adults are becoming addicted everyday and struggle to get off them so how can kids deal with this? There is no comprehensive drug treatment in PEI for either youth or adults. Those like you that fail to see the real problem - the availability of opiates and the desire of those who sell to create and perpetuate a market - are a huge part of the issue. I have two addicted children... they never stole from me, never got in trouble with the law, are successful in school, have loads of friends (many who are also now addicted), have part time jobs and are polite, respectful, kids... people were envious of me... but they made one really bad choice at a young age and now are treated like dirt by ill-informed, ignorant peole like you who are so out of touch with the real situation and that is what is fundamentally wrong. It is never fundamentally wrong to want to improve a situation and protect the youth of today. They are our future...idiots who fail to see what is really going on and continue to blame the parents are really not much better than the dealers.

    • Username
      Time to take responsibility PARENTS
      - March 9, 2013 at 13:29:56

      Parenting is at the heart of the matter, they are our responsibility after all...the problem with that is we have about a 100 different styles of parenting in today's society. So what can you do...Put one person in charge of all of it and expect him or her to fix the problem....NOT! Just another band aid IMO. Will it help some...sure...but it won't fix the problem. PARENTS NEED TO DO MORE....and CRYS...you think a VERY protective parent teaches their child how to protect them self well in society? Quite the opposite, in my experience, those are the ones who are easily led by others wherever they feel accepted. Unfortunately for some, it is with the wrong crowd. Kids turn to drugs for a reason....PARENTS any idea who might be to blame?????? I can not imagine blaming ANYONE else for where my daughter finds herself in life but ME and her FATHER...we are her Primary Teachers and we taught her how to manage her life. If she were to commit MURDER, I would still blame ME and her FATHER for not seeing something we should have. Time to pay attention to the signs people that your own children exhibit. It is all there to see, if you care to open your eyes and see it.

    • Username
      Must be nice
      - March 10, 2013 at 13:42:12

      It must be nice "Just the Facts" to have your head buried so deep in the sand that you don't see how the world has changed for kids. That you don't have to educate yourself on how the pharmaceutical companies made billions of dollars on their lies (telling people that opiates were not addicted) but were later fined millions for misleading people. But, it was too late. Many people are now addicted to these drugs, they are easy for kids to buy on the street (imagine that! A teenager being curious enough to try a drug!), and, to make it worse, doctors keep on prescribing them and the pharmaceutical companies keep on making money. Parents can only do so much to protect their children. Society plays a role as well. We need to make sure that when parents send their children out into the world to go to school that the environment is safe. There are many factors that lead to drug use and abuse and most of them are external, meaning they are outside of a parent's control. In addition, if it is parenting, why aren't all the children in a family addicted? It is because each child will experience different external factors AND each child has a different genetic make up. In other words, they are unique. People like you make me sick. So judgmental yet you probably go to church and pretend to be so Christian. If the Lord came to this earth, who would he help? I bet it would be the children and their families who are hurting because of this drug epidemic brought on in the name of profits by big pharma.

  • Username
    No They Can't
    - March 8, 2013 at 17:44:30

    No : The goverment can't fund this program because it's a useful one & none of their buddies can get kickback from it . Also it might mean they wouldn't get new cars and their beloved & needed raises . Stories like this just raises the hair on my neck . Our kid's in the meantime are suffering and also having their future stolen from them by these greedy MLA Bas**** . We need a REVOLT to take back our ISLAND & send these sleezes packing . Any one got a better answer . Let's hear it !

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