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RN positions being "redeployed" not cut, says Currie

Health Minister Doug Currie File photo

Health Minister Doug Currie

Published on March 3, 2013
Published on March 3, 2013
Mitch MacDonald  RSS Feed
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CUPE , Union of Public Employees , Western Hospital , P.E.I. Nurse , Charlottetown , Alberton

Health minister Doug Currie says a reduction of eight Registered Nurses (RN) positions at Beach Grove Home in Charlottetown is simply another step in realigning P.E.I.'s health care system towards a collaborative model.

Currie said the province has not been cutting but "re-deploying" RN positions at designated long-term care facilities which are deemed surplus. The move is part of a third and final stage in the province-wide implementation of a collaborative health care model.

The shift will allow the health department to use "front line resources to their full scope," and falls in line with staffing models in other provinces, said Currie.

"I certainly value the role of the RN in our health care system, they play a vital role," he said.

However, he added there are RN vacancies within the system that have to be filled.

"They are the most highly trained so they're being re-deployed to some of the large facilities that are dealing with higher volumes of acuteness."

In essence, health care workers are being shifted to where their training and skills are better-suited.

 "We were rolling along in a system that provided a level of care that wasn't fully utilizing its mix of health care professionals," Currie said on the previous system.

Currie was responding to a P.E.I. Nurse's Union (PEINU) release Friday that expressed concerns over the reduction in RN positions at P.E.I.'s largest provincial manor.

"One cannot help but wonder whether the decrease in nursing positions will negatively impact the quality of care for residents at the manor, " said union president Mona O'Shea, adding that the new model has seen a total of 30 RN positions lost from the front lines of provincial manors. "The employer continues to ignore research which proves that the quality of care is negatively impacted when RN positions are cut."

However, the shift of health care workers is nothing new to the union, said Currie.

"We've got contractual memorandums in place with the PEINU and CUPE (Canadian Union of Public Employees) and those are being respected as we continue to roll out our collaborative model of care," he said.

While RN positions are being realigned, so to are Licensed Practical Nurses (LPN), and Resident Care Workers (RCW).

RCW's are restricted in scope compared to an LPN, which is then restricted when compared to an RN.

"So while there may be less of one profession, they would be replaced at the facility with more of another position," said Currie. "We'll see a substantial increase in the number of RCWs. I believe approximately 17 positions at Beach Grove Home."

This would allow RNs and LPNs to work within their full scope, while also allowing RCWs to provide the roles required in long-term care facilities.

Currie added that moving into the model of care does not decrease health care, but would actually increase bedside hours by approximately 80,000 hours a year.

"That certainly provides better access for health professionals in our system," said Currie. "It really is all about the patient in the bed."

The new model of care has been implemented in all community hospital with the exception of Western Hospital in Alberton.

The Prince Edward Home and Beach Grove Home are the final public long-term care facilities part of the implementation.

The province is set to reach full implementation of a collaborative health care model by April 2014.

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  • Username
    healthcareworker
    - March 5, 2013 at 09:27:22

    Clearly most of you commenting have never worked a day in healthcare before. There will still be RN's on each unit every shift but with the new model of care, LPN's are highly qualified to do a lot of what the RN's used to do and RCW's of what the LPN's used to do. When it comes to something they aren't comfortable with, the RN can step in. Beach Grove is totally top heavy. The LPN's and RCW's do almost all of the patient care as it is, so really nothing is changing. One RN on a night shift is plenty, especially when you also have 3 LPN's on. Like the article said, no one is losing their job, they just may be working at a different facility. I am not a supporter of this government but this had to be done!

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    johnny cash
    - March 4, 2013 at 19:57:46

    Poor "BABs" , you seem very bitter towards your betters! Maybe spend your energy toward the idiots who created the mess instead of people you know nothing about. Seems the people "you" have to report to and carry a larger load should be supported . Maybe you are a government flunky trying to create a rift in groups and are a "ghizzite" true believer?

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  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    - March 4, 2013 at 18:24:53

    Doug, don't you think it is time to scrap the status quo and start over. You may want to start by cutting the size of the Queen E and spreading those resources (not money) to our rural areas that currently need them. Many small hospitals instead of this centralization model. At least with smaller hospitals they would be easier to manage and keep fiscally responsible. I don't agree that centralization saves money, prove it. With smaller hospitals you could recognize bad or poorly managed facilities much more quickly and remedy the situation. I am tired of letting the profit makers control health care in this province and country. TAKE THE PROFIT OUT OF HEALTH CARE and it will fix itself.

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  • Username
    Feelingsinvolved
    - March 4, 2013 at 17:46:46

    Words like those from more problems can be very hurtful.. LPNS are right smack in the middle of this with not any room for opinions .. These words like healthcare being in danger .. Lives being in jeopardy.. Critical thinking and assessment skills lacking .. They don't deserve to be treated as anything other than skilled NURSING staff ..and most will be the first to tell you they are learning and it was a decision that was made for them not a decision that they made There are many of these LPNS who also have the day to day hands on care of these residents or patients and no doubt could do a very good assessment of them just on that Merritt alone .. I just see these headings with comments becoming very segregated .. What ever happened to working together as a team .. Before judging can I just ask you to take feelings into consideration..ALL nursing staff .. RN..LPNS..RCWS THIS IS THEIR LIVES .. Not a petty argument that doesn't deserve respect and consideration .. Keep in mind that this affects how they all perform as caring. Nurses of all of your loved ones .. And what a fine job they do .. It has become very hateful at times and healthcare is NOT where we need to see fighting and belittling of how a nurse CARES .. The bottom line is they are alllll doing it day night holiday snowstorm anniversary kids first birthdays .. They don't close EVER can those of you that judge say you are that committed .. Probably not""""" thanks for listening

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  • Username
    The Axe Still Falls
    - March 4, 2013 at 17:25:55

    It is a sad testament to Nursing and to our Government, that Registered Nurses are beinf axed at the majority of Health Care Facilities on P.E.I. The Critical Thinking Skills, Educational Background and Professional Experience of these Nurses are top calibre, and to save the Almighy Dollar, our Gov't is eager to reduce the Quality Of Care. There are many planning and implimentation roles R.N.'s partake in that "Joe Public" is not aware of, nor do they understand. Hospitals and Long Term Care Facilities are being run like regular Business. The decision makers are forgetting about the many contributions R.N.'s make. Nurses Union... be pro active, protest, meet with Government Officials, represent our Professional Body well. There will be dire consequences for patients, families and and the R.N.'s who are strong advocates for Patient Rights. To says R.N.'s are "surplus" like store inventory is misguided, ill informed and undemocratic thinking. Ghiz Gov't .... your actions will be remembered and acted upon , next time threre is an Election. Your kind of change is not the kind the people of this province seek.

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  • Username
    BSCN RN .............. EI
    - March 4, 2013 at 15:51:23

    Mr Currie who pays for the retraining of these RNs who have been out of the acute care setting for so long that they would require additional education and preceptorships in order to work safely and efficiently in an acute care environment ? How then do you justify paying sponsorship money to new RN graduates, justify the time and money spent on training these RNs only to lose the current acute care trained RN to other provinces as you will not offer them jobs following the end of their two year contract with the province. You are currently recruiting more newly graduated RNs (or GARs) yet have aproximately 30 RNs with their sponsorships ending this May, who will be out of jobs. Thanks for the lump sum of cash you gave me to entice me to stay, and the multiple training courses over the last two years. British Columbia will have to send you a thank you note for making their same mistakes by sending an acute care trained RN their way while you spend your time and money retraining a new/old RN for my old job that I was happy to stay in.

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  • Username
    come on
    - March 4, 2013 at 15:21:52

    rn's are getting more credit than deserve --lcb they are spoiled--- i've seen in long term care most rn's would not know how to put a bedpan under a resident let alone do it ----get off your high horses ----- don't take credit if it is not earned

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    • Username
      Susan Davison
      - March 7, 2013 at 11:53:50

      It always amazes me how some people feel the need to prove, on a daily basis, just how ignorant they are...I am an RN in a long term care facility. I have also worked in acute care and palliative care. I have given more bedpans than you will ever know...I've held a little boy's hand while his mother is dying of cancer...I've had to tell an elderly man that his wife has just passed away...I've listened to the same story endless times from a little lady with Alzheimer's....I have always been there to do these things...Until now. With the new Model of "Care" my skills are now directed toward more paperwork and less patient care. This is not my choice. It has not always been this way. I have never been an a "high horse". I've been where my heart is and that's with my patients. I think you should examine the situation a little more carefully before you hurt the people who care for you and your loved ones.

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    Mary Dicks
    - March 4, 2013 at 12:20:04

    It is quite obviously Doug Currie doesn't have a close family member in one of these manors otherwise he would rethink his decision of "re-deploying" RN positions. Beach Grove is running on a skeleton scheduling when it comes to RN, LPN & RCW's as it is! I think it is outrageous to have one RN on an overnight shift at any manor...they must count on just one resident getting sick in the course of the shift....Shame on Government for putting our senior residents at risk!!!

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  • Username
    MOREPROBLEMS
    - March 4, 2013 at 11:23:03

    It would be interesting to check stats on the number of nursing home residents being shipped to the local ER for assessment, for comparison to now and in 3 months. You think there are long wait times now, wait till the change in critical thinking and assessment of health affects the rest of the system (ie. nursing home residents with minor issues in the ER). The population isn't getting any younger.. or healthier.. just a thought.

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  • Username
    lcb
    - March 4, 2013 at 10:38:43

    I work in the health profession feel there is definately a glut of RN's to be fair.I have heard of way too may RNs floating around these small community hospitals Plus I see it every day in my job.I used to be a nurse and I cannot believe how spoiled todays nurses are. I realise some are very busy....but lets be honest here.... BUT I still hate this government.....gettin raises when we are really hurtng

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  • Username
    Squirrel
    - March 4, 2013 at 10:30:01

    This totally BS, Gov't believe this to be cost saving while the quality of Health care goes down They already did try this in other Provinces ( 5 yrs ago in BC ) only to return reinstating RN's. Why do we have to keep trying to reinvent the wheel all the time. Wake up folks .

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  • Username
    Taxwatcher
    - March 4, 2013 at 08:38:25

    Isn''t interesting . Last week CBC reported the cost of management of Heatlth Care on P.E.I. is 300% higher than any other province. We are the smallest province in Canada. Why even our Premier has volunteered to lend his assistance in showing the rest of Canada what P.E.I.'s Model of Crae can do. Increase cocts and not just show zero results, rather it show negative results. You are fooling nobody Mr. Currie!

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  • Username
    Just one Doc
    - March 4, 2013 at 08:32:00

    I think this is a very good move. There are areas of the health care system that are over-serviced (believe it or not) by various types of health care workers. Some areas are not using their highly skilled RN's to their potential. And then there are other areas desperate for RN's and other workers. This is a smart, common sense move to rebalance workloads in the health system. It take guts to make change. We need much more of this type of management from our leaders.

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    Robert perry
    - March 4, 2013 at 08:13:19

    It is a fact that pei has one of the fastest growing aging populations in Canada. It seems that our seniors care is slowly being whittled away under the guise of saving money which is certainly not what this government appears to be doing by giving themselves a "sneaky" raise , unneeded super highway,globe-trotting premier with his entourage, increases taxes etc etc.....Our seniors who enter facilities like Beach Grove often require top of the line care and deserve nothing less. Are you not watering down the services available? RNs have been providing the best possible services in our facilities in a very professional and effective manner.i personally visit many seniors' facilities and it. Is obvious which ones are receiving care that is directly proportional to quality of staff and dollars available. DON'T cut back on care for our Seniors.Cut back on things like bureaucratic white elephants like plHealth PEI, too many MLAs. Our seniors entering long term care these days L often enter with much more complicated health concerns than years ago. They require more than a bed,food and bathing. RCWs do a wonderful job in taking care of these needs in most cases. But if you reduce or eliminate RNs from these centres,who will tend. to the far more complicated illnesss of many of the residents? It is my very very strong opinion that nurses are the frontline care givers in our system and once you the ,government ,reduce their numbers, then it becomes obvious you are weakening the care of our loved ones. Maybe,sooner than you think. You or one of your loved ones will need seniors' care and in a relatively short time you will witness the deterioration. Of our seniors' care when our most competent care providers,the Nurses are shuffled out of overall plan.

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    Robert perry
    - March 4, 2013 at 08:06:46

    It is a fact that pei has one of the fastest growing aging populations in Canada. It seems that our seniors care is slowly being whittled away under the guise of saving money which is certainly not what this government appears to be doing by giving themselves a "sneaky" raise , unneeded super highway,globe-trotting premier with his entourage, increases taxes etc etc.....Our seniors who enter facilities like Beach Grove often require top of the line care and deserve nothing less. Are you not watering down the services available? RNs have been providing the best possible services in our facilities in a very professional and effective manner.i personally visit many seniors' facilities and it. Is obvious which ones are receiving care that is directly proportional to quality of staff and dollars available. DON'T cut back on care for our Seniors.Cut back on things like bureaucratic white elephants like plHealth PEI, too many MLAs. Our seniors entering long term care these days L often enter with much more complicated health concerns than years ago. They require more than a bed,food and bathing. RCWs do a wonderful job in taking care of these needs in most cases. But if you reduce or eliminate RNs from these centres,who will tend. to the far more complicated illnesss of many of the residents? It is my very very strong opinion that nurses are the frontline care givers in our system and once you the ,government ,reduce their numbers, then it becomes obvious you are weakening the care of our loved ones. Maybe,sooner than you think. You or one of your loved ones will need seniors' care and in a relatively short time you will witness the deterioration. Of our seniors' care when our most competent care providers,the Nurses are shuffled out of overall plan.

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  • Username
    babs
    - March 4, 2013 at 07:48:52

    As a health care provider who worked in the provinicial homes they are all highly top heavy.Its about time the government made these cuts to the RNS they are highly over-rated,over-paid individuals.LPN'S are more than equipped with all of their education to run the manors,these people are all stable,not like the hospital.So kudos to this government in finally realizing that the RN'S need to be better utilized.

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  • Username
    Garth Staples
    - March 4, 2013 at 07:06:02

    Currie the wordsmith!

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  • Username
    John te Raa
    - March 4, 2013 at 06:53:18

    Reading between the lines. Union says that 30 RN positions are lost at manors. Currie says that the 30 positions are "re-deployed". Currie says there are RN vacancies within the system. Currie says they(RNs) are being re-deployed to larger facilities. So there appears to be a net loss of 30 RNs. Rather than eliminating 30 RNs from the system, the health care system should "re-deploy" the RNs into the doctor's territory. This would help with the doctor shortage and save the system money.

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  • Username
    Wow
    - March 3, 2013 at 23:20:34

    This government is a complete joke-they can spend at least 22 million on a highway nobody wants but cut healthcare-bring on the next election

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    • Username
      Dumbfounded
      - March 4, 2013 at 07:17:40

      My, how things swing about in models of healthcare over the years!. And, I am sure, that it will swing back again in another 20 years! The object here is totally about money, of course, ...it is a business like anything else. Sad thing, it involves human lives,....not a road that our government cannot afford either! This is just absurd folks,....and by the way, where oh where, is the RN governing body? They should be fighting absolutely tooth and nail all of the way!

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