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Some P.E.I. companies confused about HST rates

HST

HST

Published on March 2, 2013
Published on March 1, 2013
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed
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The Buzz , Canadian Federation of Independent Business , Islanders , Prince Edward Island , Charlottetown

The HST is just a month away from going live in P.E.I., but even though it was announced last year, some Island businesses and residents are unsure what the new tax rate will be.

Employees at The Buzz in Charlottetown noticed this recently when they received an advance invoice for a purchase taking place this summer.

 The company that sent the invoice was a sizable and established P.E.I. business.

But when they opened the invoice, the Buzz employees noticed they had been charged a 15 per cent HST.

When the harmonized sales tax comes into effect on April 1st, the current 15.5 per cent PST and GST rate will be blended into a 14 per cent HST – not 15 per cent.

“It even put doubt in my mind, I had to go and make sure because when we got that invoice, we were all surprised,” said Yanik Richards, website administrator for The Buzz.

“I would have thought that the way news spreads across Prince Edward Island that it would have been fairly common knowledge the HST will be 14 per cent.”

Richards then posted an informal survey online, asking his readers if they knew what the HST rate will be in the form of a multiple choice question. Almost half of those who responded chose the 15 per cent option.

“I was surprised by the result, especially considering a lot of people might just look it up first and then answer,” he said.

“I know they were having information sessions, but I don’t know how effective those were. “

The provincial government did hold a number of information sessions across the province to educate businesses on the steps they must take to adjust their books and billing practices to the new tax.

These sessions were divided into sector specific categories, such as retailers and manufacturers, tourism and accommodations and the construction industry.  

Erin McGrath-Gaudet of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business took part in one of these sessions. She said they offered companies a good basic understanding of the HST and how it will work, but she is anticipating many more questions will arise once it takes effect in April.

She expressed surprise, however, when told that at least some Island businesses appear have a mistaken idea of what the HST rate will be.

“To be honest, this is the first I’ve heard of anyone thinking it was going to be 15 per cent. Mind you when we are meeting with our members we go out to them with that information,” McGrath-Gaudet said.

Some businesses have already had to begin applying the HST as of Feb. 1st for certain types of items and services, but most P.E.I. companies are only now beginning the process of looking at what they will have to do when the new tax comes into effect next month.

“A lot of them are just getting into that mode now, so businesses are certainly asking a lot of questions about what they need to do to get ready, but this is the first I’ve heard of any confusion around the rates,” McGrath-Gaudet said.

“Typically it seemed to be very well communicated. I mean, I was certainly under the impression most people knew what the rate was going to be in P.E.I. but obviously I was wrong.”

Richards said he thinks government should perhaps consider issuing public service announcements to ensure all Islanders and businesses are clear about what the new tax rate will be.

“It's important for people to know that this error could materialize anywhere, even where you'd least expect. So, when the HST comes into effect, everyone should be checking their receipts.”

 

twright@theguardian.pe.ca

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  • Username
    TO ENOUGH
    - March 3, 2013 at 13:29:59

    Excuse the typing error. I was talking about GST of $43.85 not PST. there is no PST on the article I purchased which means that if I bought that article after 01 Apr the tax would be triple of what I paid. approximately $131.00 in HST. Is that not enough for you

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  • Username
    ei ei oh
    - March 3, 2013 at 13:07:50

    That extra 1% will cover all the extra welfare cases the EI reform is creating.

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    • Username
      Bill Kays
      - March 3, 2013 at 17:58:59

      not by a long shot.

  • Username
    R Johnston
    - March 3, 2013 at 09:06:37

    With the HST just around the corner you would think the gov't would send out info to us "business owners" on the amount of the"HST" we are suppose to charge and proper procedures for the collecting and payments the HST. We are absorbing the cost of these changes with no help. It's pretty bad that we are only getting much needed knowledge through the newspapers .

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    • Username
      The Facilitaor
      - March 3, 2013 at 11:50:05

      Why don't you just go to their website? All the information is there.

  • Username
    Mike Duffy shows Islanders the way . . . out.
    - March 3, 2013 at 08:54:42

    I don't think the HST will not bother me a bit. You see, while I am not a resident of BC, my heart is in BC and I have do a smelt shack there. Also, I have a friend that says I'm a British Colombian so that makes me one, right? That's how it works, I've got it right, don't I? I'm so confused . . . I don't need a health card or licence or anything do I? Well, I guess I'm okay then, eh? Whew, no HST for me!

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    • Username
      Twiggy
      - March 3, 2013 at 13:26:20

      Robert Ghiz mismanaged the province and misled us on HST.Not Mike Duffy. Let us not excuse one donkey by reviewing the actions of another.

  • brandon long
    Playhouse
    - March 2, 2013 at 23:08:18

    Dr. Brian Barrett, Since you can't comment on opinion articles I added my comment here. The dentists and eye care professional in Canada are a cartel. They charge outrage prices for their services and try to scare people into thinking other countries are not up to the same standards. Go have your dental or eye problems looked after in another country where they have to compete in the market place instead of being helped out by the government. You will see quicker, more attentive and high quality service from a person wanting your business.

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    • Username
      You're right enough
      - March 3, 2013 at 08:44:11

      I agree. As a person who has received excellent care and work done in Mexico, I think Barrett's comments are not only driven by self-interest, but they also intentionally misinforms people who need expensive dental work. I'd go to a Mexican dentist on PEI, why wouldn't I go to a Mexican dentist in Mexico? What would have cost me over $3000+ on PEI cost me $1000 in Mexico, all done in a modern, professional and caring clinic. And if Barrett was implying that things can't go wrong here . . . well, we all know better. Nope, medical tourism is going to cut into the profits of dentists and that result will not be the fault of those who can't afford the services that are provided here. Hey, plus it's sunny in Mexico and you don't have to recover in a damp, cold planbish climate!

  • Username
    UPWESTER
    - March 2, 2013 at 17:59:50

    How can they charge a tax that doesn't take effect until April 1st? Isn't that illegal?

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  • Username
    jon
    - March 2, 2013 at 17:34:18

    I came to Alberta 4 months ago I only have to pay gst no pst no hst bull crap how save money and everyone boycott PEI till they change there ways

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    • Username
      intobed
      - March 3, 2013 at 01:55:43

      But Alberta is a toxic wasteland, that will shorten your life due to polluted water and air and (as a result) food grown there. The reason you get great wages is because, like the tobacco industry sixty years ago, they have convinced you that you will not be affected by what they are selling. The ability to make money should not trump the right for your fellow citizens to just live.

  • Username
    He's right
    - March 2, 2013 at 15:51:39

    Gerard W is exactly right. New Brunswick is now talking about raising their HST 2% more. Only inevitable that ours will go up some time in the near future.

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  • Username
    EXAMPLE OF HST
    - March 2, 2013 at 15:26:25

    A true example of what the HST will do for the people of this province is Yesterday I made a purchase which cost $43.85 in PST. After 01 Apr that same purchase will cost $131.55 in HST. Pease explain to me how this is a benefit to the people of this province? Are we now supposed to say thank you for robbing me to the Ghiz gang.

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    • Username
      Enough
      - March 2, 2013 at 19:37:03

      . If your PST was $43.85 the GST would have been $20.88 the total tax would be $64.73 the subtotal of your purchase without tax $417.62. The HST on $417.62 at 14% would be $58.47.

  • Username
    EXAMPLE OF HST
    - March 2, 2013 at 15:25:32

    A true example of what the HST will do for the people of this province is Yesterday I made a purchase which cost $43.85 in PST. After 01 Apr that same purchase will cost $131.55 in HST. Pease explain to me how this is a benefit to the people of this province? Are we now supposed to say thank you for robbing me to the Ghiz gang.

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    • Username
      The Facilitator
      - March 3, 2013 at 11:43:34

      Actually you didn't pay PST on your purchase of $877 you paid the 5% HST. Either you bought an item that was PST exempt or you bought a product online that didn't charge you the PST. In this case you are suppose to go to the tax office and pay the PST.

  • Username
    Bill Kays
    - March 2, 2013 at 14:09:12

    People are confused because it was an "edict proclaimed from above" from "the King". Government wants to deliberately keep people confused and asleep otherwise we might wake up, and become aware that we are being raped and lied to by them. In a wakened state we might actually tear ourselves away from the computer, football, movie, tv, internet, hockey, facebook, or other selfish pleasures they give to us peasants to keep us amused and out of government's way. By constantly looking inwards we are being taught to live for our own selfish things instead of being taught to care for others. Society has the government we so much deserve, it is a reflection of ourselves as a society. We call ourselves civilized because we think we have done enough for our neighbor, but look at the reality of the situation. Our neighbors are starving to death, killing unborn children, and everything is ok??? Why is everything ok, because they tell us it is ok. Come on people wake up, government is not your friend and they are not doing their job of protecting us from ourselves, outsiders or from government itself.

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  • Username
    intobed
    - March 2, 2013 at 11:39:27

    Only one thing you need to know: the HST will be very bad for most ordinary Islanders, and really good for members of the PEI Federation of Agriculture. Do not support the PEIFA.

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    • Username
      Lest we forget
      - March 2, 2013 at 15:27:47

      That's exactly the position my group (seniors) has taken. People on a fixed income are negatively impacted with this change, and we won't forget.

    • Username
      Farmer
      - March 2, 2013 at 17:30:20

      I am still waiting for the Islanders Against HST to put a stop to the HST. Just a while ago the group was supposed to launch a lawsuit to stop it. I expect Cindy and the group were just blowing hot air (like Intobed). You can't fault the PEIFA for pushing for what I am other members asked for. That is what a lobby group is supposed to do. Represent the members. Which is a heck of a lot more effective than sitting home commenting on every article the Guardian or CBC runs.

  • Username
    Gerard W
    - March 2, 2013 at 10:40:21

    The 14% is just a introductory amount, wait a little longer and this Govt. will increase that to 15% - 16% - 17% - 18% over time.

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  • Username
    IS IT A MISTAKE?
    - March 2, 2013 at 09:09:14

    Is it a mistake or has it been changed to 15 per cent even before it is implemented and some businesses jumped the start date. I cannot see this Government giving us a break of any kind on taxes. All this HST did was put an extra 75 million in their hands which apparently has disappeared as we still have the 80 million deficit.

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  • Username
    Sandy MacKay
    - March 2, 2013 at 08:43:15

    It's like the penny. You still get a penny or pay the Pennie in Kensington post office

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  • Username
    Funny how things work . . .
    - March 2, 2013 at 07:33:42

    I was held up and robbed once. For a while, I was confused too. But the thief wasn't confused; he felt glad he got away with it.

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  • Username
    Early Riser
    - March 2, 2013 at 04:49:48

    The extra 1% is to cover the MLA's raises

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  • Username
    HST will destroy the shaky economy
    - March 2, 2013 at 03:15:20

    It will destroy the island's very shaky economy. It has been a failure for citizens in every other province that put it in effect. It is a tax grab. Costs of goods are going up even before HST. HST will hit islanders to the point of breaking. Not much to understand about not being able to make ends meet, except if you are one of the corrupted elite in the province,

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