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Non-violent protest a 'global phenomenon': Gwynne Dyer

Gwynne Dyer, left, is welcomed to UPEI by Don Desserud, dean of arts. Dyer gave a public lecture on non-violent revolution to a packed house at the university Monday. Guardian photo by Nigel Armstrong

Gwynne Dyer, left, is welcomed to UPEI by Don Desserud, dean of arts. Dyer gave a public lecture on non-violent revolution to a packed house at the university Monday.

Published on February 26, 2013
Published on February 26, 2013
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Author and columnist brings cross-Canada speaking tour to UPEI

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Cross-Canada , University of Prince Edward Island , Soviet Union , Eastern Europe , South Africa

Non-violent protest isn't about being nice, it's about overthrowing a repressive regime and the practice is proving successful, says Gwynne Dyer.

Dyer, a military historian, columnist and popular author spoke to a packed amphitheatre in Duffy Science Centre at the University of Prince Edward Island Monday. Hosted by the faculty of arts, it is part of a cross-Canada speaking tour by Dyer.

"It is not protest," he said. "It is a non-violent technique for coercing oppressive governments into letting go. It's not about being nice or polite."

There has been an increase in the number and success of non-violent protests in the past 25 years, he said.

Non-violent action helped topple the old Soviet Union, all the communist regimes in Eastern Europe, and apartheid in South Africa, said Dyer.

"It made Indonesia the world's biggest Muslim country, it brought down Milosevic, the Butcher of the Balkans, his own people brought him down in 2000, and now the Arab Spring," said Dyer. "This is a global phenomenon.

"Instead of bloody revolution, and guns and bombs, you do it in a more disciplined and actually more effective way which is non-violently," he said.

He acknowledged the problem of Syria, which has moved from non-violent action to civil war.

"Nothing works every time, everywhere, but the track record of this is very, very good," said Dyer.

Dyer is willing to give North America some part of the global non-violent pie, but not much.

"I think that the Occupy Movement used non-violent techniques, not to bring down the U.S. government, or capitalism or something like that but it used it quite successfully to get the visibility to make one really important point, which it did make.

"That whole business about the 99 per cent and the one per cent, it wasn't on the public screen two years ago. It was the Occupy Movement put it there.

"Oh, I remember, politics used to be about the rich and the poor, about the one per cent and the 99 per cent." said Dyer. "That's what the Occupy Movement set out to do. I would say they succeeded."

The true success of non-violent action comes when the alternative is death, he said.

"There are rules and they have been refined over time and people understand them," he said of successful action. "You really have to make sure that nobody in your crowd has a weapon on them."

He remembers seeing Indonesian protesters during the time of Suharto being checked by their own in an "airport-like" security arrangement as they left the grounds of the universities to assemble on the streets.

"You have to discipline your own people that no matter what the provocation, don't use violence," said Dyer. "Not because you are nice, not because you are passive but because that way, you win."

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    David English
    - February 27, 2013 at 23:19:21

    First, I don't know that it's entirely that simple. Take Egypt for example, with their Ultima/Black organizations. Ostensibly rioting football fans but more along the lines of anarchist militias. They did and continue to play a part in Egypt's not entirely non-violent revolution. What happens when there's more than one side to the revolution, as there often is? What happens when those wielding violence become a bunch more faceless protesters rather than the state? Violence does seem to be effective at times. Further, if oppressed groups never gave up their non-violent path then crushing them would actually be the only effective answer. Places like Syria serve as important examples of what happens when a regime goes too far - there does need to be consequences. I suspect the successful non-violent revolutions happened as much because of the bloody messes that came before as any regime being unwilling to be seen as heavy-handed. Giving up and letting go of power to non-violent protests needs to be the preferable to the alternatives... say an all-out civil war that you will eventually lose and then being slaughtered by angry mobs seeking revenge for your murderous rampages. Second, as this is a global phenomenon, how does a global population better support these non-violent protests? How can we make them more successful? And, when they happen here, do we want them to be successful?

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    peter aardvark
    - February 27, 2013 at 16:16:40

    Both Jill & Bill fail to acknowledge Dyer's points. IE. The former eastern bloc countries fell like the domino principle in reverse through non-violence. Likewise it happened in the 80s& 90s in the Phillipines, Indonesia, the former soviet republics and recently in the Arab spring. Yes there were exceptions, Romania, and Syria for instance but overall it has worked extraordinarily well. What threats are you talking about - like those WMD's in Iraq? I find that he's one of the few political analysts who call it like it is. He also did serve in the military and has written extensively on the history of War.

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    Hans Sinn
    - February 27, 2013 at 15:06:46

    I have been reading Gwynn Dyer since 1985, the appearance of WAR ( as book and TV series.) Dyer was the only one to correctly anticipate the fall of THE WALL. I wonder if he has mentioned Canada's Idle No More, which is determined to remain non-violent (see Taiaiake Alfred "Wasa'se Indigenous pathways of action and freedom")

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    Bill Kays
    - February 26, 2013 at 20:08:53

    Jill is right about it all. The time for passive resistance is over. It is time for people with a backbone to take back our society, our country, and our world. Letters to the editor or your politician do nothing to effect change.

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    Jill macdonald
    - February 26, 2013 at 16:41:00

    One thing for sure, UPEI would never allow the contrary world view and opinion on how to deal with the world problems. Universities are full of left wing profs who teach rather then deal with the real world. that is why someone like Dyer appeals to them.

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    Captain Canuck
    - February 26, 2013 at 15:42:23

    JILL, you couldn't have heard of Gwynn Dyer before... he's a reporter, not an opinion columnist. You gotta learn to listen to him with that in mind. To PUNK: you know of the hippies and you know they were about peace, therefore they had their impact even on you.

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    Punk
    - February 26, 2013 at 14:34:09

    It didn't really work for the hippies did it?

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    Jill Macdonald
    - February 26, 2013 at 14:17:53

    Never read this guy. One of the ones that ignore threats, claim they can be dealt with milk and cookies and never had to make a responsible decision. But has no problem poking holes in the actions of those who are unafraid to deal with tough world problems. According to him, the little evil that exists in the world just needs a hug to correct. Neville Chamberlain would like this guy.

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