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Retail group pushing for longer Sunday shopping hours in P.E.I.

A group that represents retailers is hoping to convince the provincial government to change the rules to let businesses decide what time they open on Sundays.

A group that represents retailers is hoping to convince the provincial government to change the rules to let businesses decide what time they open on Sundays.

Published on February 26, 2013
Published on February 26, 2013
Ryan Ross  RSS Feed
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Retail Council of Canada , P.E.I. , Iceland , Nova Scotia

A group that represents retailers is hoping to convince the provincial government to change the rules to let businesses decide what time they open on Sundays.

Jim Cormier, a spokesman for the Retail Council of Canada, said a lot of customers would like to see more flexibility in the opening hours. He also said many businesses think it is as much a matter of principle as anything else.

“Why is government dictating to retailers or private business in general when they can or cannot open?” he asked.

The Sunday shopping rules, which came into effect in 2010, allow for Island businesses to open at 12 p.m. on Sundays with the exception of certain holidays.

It was a change that saw an even split in the legislative assembly when it came time to vote on the bill and forced then Speaker of the house Kathleen Casey to break the tie.

Cormier said businesses should be able to consider the financial and human resource ramifications of opening earlier on Sundays.

“Obviously, a good employer is going to want to make sure that they can attract and keep their employees,” he said.

The rules are different in the neighbouring provinces. Nova Scotia doesn’t regulate the opening hours on Sundays while in New Brunswick, it varies by municipality.

Cormier said some businesses that have the freedom to open earlier have decided not to do so.

“For the most part, a lot of retailers are still operating their business from 12 to 5 (p.m.) because they don’t feel that there’s a business case for being open any longer,” he said.

The Retail Council of Canada will have a chance to make the pitch to the government for a change to the hours of operation when representatives meet with Labour Minister Janice Sherry on Thursday.

Cormier said he realizes the issue hasn’t been a big consideration for most people over the last few years.

“It’s more about starting the conversation again,” he said.

Although a meeting with Sherry is planned, it’s unlikely there will be any changes coming to the opening hours.

Sherry, who voted against the change in 2010, said a lot of work was done to consult with businesses about hours of operation before the legislation came into effect.

Islanders weren’t in favour of unregulated opening hours at that time, she said, and added she hasn’t heard from any P.E.I. businesses or residents since then about extending them.

“I have not been approached in any way, shape or form by Islanders or Island businesses at this time,” she said.

 

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  • Username
    gerry
    - February 27, 2013 at 22:54:49

    Is it ignorance, fear, or both that prevents the Island from emerging from the dark ages? Who says that Sunday has to be a day of rest, or a family day? If I choose to be employed on that day, shop, perform domestic duties; or just be plain lazy then that is my choice. Perhaps, I and many others prefer to rest on Wednesday or any other day of the week for that matter. Our family makes a point of spending quality time together from Monday to Friday because it's what works for us. Does that make us bad people? No one is in a position to judge someone else's personal decisions, as it does not make you the better person.

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    Fearless
    - February 26, 2013 at 20:40:49

    Let the retail industry form thier own hours and buisness models .The government needs to standby and collect taxes. Everybodys got a job to do! Move on nothing more to see here.

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      intobed
      - February 26, 2013 at 23:57:27

      So, Fearless, should the business models include $5 / hr minimum wage? How about $2/ hr? We have lots of unemployed here in PEI, and with the rules saying if you quit a job you cannot get EI people might work for that, or starve. Perhaps we should cut back welfare too, so more people are forced to work at reduced wages. Don't laugh, there are companies in the world who pay their workers less than $1 a day, thanks to open business models.

  • Bill Kays
    Bill Kays
    - February 26, 2013 at 20:16:53

    Stores should be allowed to open whatever hours they want. It is time to start taking useless legislation off the books and give people the FREEDOM to do their thing. And don't we have too many foolish or unenforced laws.

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  • Username
    UPWESTER
    - February 26, 2013 at 17:45:52

    Sunday is not family day! To Christans it might be, but to almost every other religion in the world, their Sabbath falls on SATURDAY.Stop being so condescending to other faiths.I for one will not live by your puritanical beliefs. Islanders are so narrow minded, they think there are only two religions and two races, catholic and protestant and french and english.You need to get out more!

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      intobed
      - February 27, 2013 at 00:33:32

      Upwester, the vast majority of PEI is either French or English, Catholic or Protestant. This article is about PEI, not the rest of the world.

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    Christine
    - February 26, 2013 at 17:33:33

    A lot of you say you have 6 other days to shop so their is no need to shop Sundays. Well you can be wrong in a some cases. A lot of people need to pick up things like presciptions that they need, or if something happened and you could not go shopping the day before and you need to get something important as soon as possible.

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    Gerry
    - February 26, 2013 at 17:27:51

    It's amazing how many posters attempt to inflict their belief system on everyone else. As long as your live your life whichever way garners you satisfaction, there is absolutely no reason for others to follow suit. It's called free thinking and respect for others' personal lives.

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    Andrew
    - February 26, 2013 at 17:11:48

    Seriously what difference is it to everyone. Everyone has the choice to go to the stores or not. Those who want to shop I say shop, know one says you have to go to the stores. It's 2013 in the rest of the world, it will be nice when are island catches up. On a island where we lack jobs god forbid create a few..

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  • Username
    Sigh
    - February 26, 2013 at 15:48:53

    I can't help but read these comments and wonder how we advance anything on this little Island of ours. The reality is that many professions already have to work on Sundays and no one dictates what time they are open/closed. Hospitals, gas stations, pharmacies, call centres, restaurants, fast food joints, etc... Why does no one call foul on this? No one should dictate when we spend time with our families and not all families are "traditional" in this day and age. I work Monday-Friday at my regular job, work/volunteer on a part time basis for another commitment and have no children. The reality is that Sunday is often the only day I have available to do any running around. It would be nice to leave one of those restaurants that is open on Sunday morning (that no one is complaining about) and go shopping if I so choose to. That's right, I don't go to Church... GASP! We're adults, the people running the businesses are adults, we should all be able to make our own decisions about when/where/how we shop. I love supporting local business and would love to see the Farmer's Market open on Sunday's for example, but it's their choice to operate on whatever hours work for their retailers... It's all about choice and I don't understand how or why we allow our government to dictate our day of rest or what hours a business can be open.

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    • Username
      intobed
      - February 26, 2013 at 16:12:02

      Sigh, I don't consider (and many agree with me) that opening more hours on Sunday to be an advancement. The consumerist mentality that drives people to shop is something that has always been resisted in PEI. Stores are open Monday to Friday until at least 9 pm, and you mean to tell me you have no time to shop? You are really that busy? For your own health, please slow down and breath. This is PEI, not Toronto. I enjoy our relaxed pace of life, and am able to organize my time so I can get things done without Sunday shopping at all.

    • Username
      sigh too
      - February 26, 2013 at 19:05:53

      Thank you for pointing out the inconsistencies in the argument for keeping businesses closed Sunday mornings when there are many businesses open on Sunday morning . It should be up to the individual business or the consumer whether you want to open your business on Sunday morning or if you want to shop on Sunday morning. In light of the high unemployment rate on PEI I would also think the argument that islanders do not want to work on Sunday mornings should also be invalid.

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    J.M.
    - February 26, 2013 at 14:21:34

    I really think it's pretty sad that stores have to be open every day of the week, did greed set in so much that everyone has to work 7 days a week. there has to be more in ones life then to be stuck in a store on Sundays. what happened to Sunday visits to see parents or visit your children or grandchildren? Family should spend some quality time together, we'd have a lot better world out there, it all starts at home, so save your spare time and use it wisely.

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    • Username
      intobed
      - February 27, 2013 at 00:40:15

      J.M. I agree. People think having stores closed on Sundays has to do with religion, and perhaps it does. But why did religion say people needed a day off per week? Why do most religions have this stipulation? Why has it lasted thousands of years, through revolutions, different forms of government, and even free thinking societies? Perhaps most important, what has changed so that we think we no longer feel we need a day of rest per week?

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    Bob from Cardigan
    - February 26, 2013 at 13:33:18

    The big Sunday shopping issue, more HST for the government! It makes no difference. I choose not to spend my Sunday's at Walmart. I only buy some necessities when I need them if I run out and there are enough small shops open for me when I need them.

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  • Username
    What retailers
    - February 26, 2013 at 13:27:21

    Dear Guardian, Please do some research and find out which retailers this group represents. I would be willing to bet they represent big box stores only, and not small local businesses who would be driven closer to the brink by the increased expenses associated with increased hours.

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  • Username
    Rose
    - February 26, 2013 at 13:12:03

    This isn't about allowing customers to shop when they want to or about giving employees more hours. This is about GREED, and only GREED.

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  • Username
    come on
    - February 26, 2013 at 13:08:30

    dundas sue ---not all of us work 9-5 we work shift work ---and yes we work Sundays its not the worst thing in the world -- i spend time with my family when i'm off it doesn't have to be on a sunday and it doesn't make me a bad parent---and last time i checked church is on saturday evenings also

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    Dundas Sue
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:15:42

    How much money do people have tos pend anyway? Leave them closed and let people spend time with their families, or go to church, or whatever they want to do. It will force minimum wage workers into hours they dont want (not giving them more hours certainly) and for what? Shopping is not all there is in life.

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    UPWESTER
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:01:02

    Stores need to be open when the customers are there. When cruise ships come this year (all 97000 passengers), the stores had better be open. The biggest complaint I hear from the cruise ships is that nothing is open. Cruise ships don't have to come here, and they won't if stores are closed and the streets rolled up. This may have been fine in the 1920s, but this is the next millenium.

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    • Username
      nitpicker
      - February 26, 2013 at 12:54:21

      right, but we're talking about not having the stores wait till 12pm to open on Sundays. There's little effect on cruise ship passengers here. The issue for cruise ships are the places that choose to close up during the tourism off season.

    • Username
      UPWESTER
      - February 26, 2013 at 17:38:31

      Sorry NITPICKER, but if cruise ships are arriving, it's not the tourism off season. Cruise ship passangers are TOURISTS. That not withstanding, why do tourists or anyone else have to shop between 12 and 5. with all the jobless people on the Island, you would think they would love a chance to earn some extra money, instead of relying on pogey. PEI is being left behind the rest of the world with their old fashioned ideas.Not everyone goes to church, not everyone has a family, if you choose not to shop,so be it, but don't you have the temerity to tell the rest of us when we can shop.I went to Alberton on saturday to get a haircut and get my glasses fixed at my optometrist, and you guessed it, both were closed.This was a saturday!

    • Username
      UPWESTER
      - February 26, 2013 at 18:03:15

      INCREASE IS FAIR AND NOT THE PROBLEM . . .Very good analogy. Most, if not all MLAs sit on committees and that boosts their salaries to $73,600. If we had 17 fewer MLAs, that would be a savings of $1,145,800.at the base rate.I keep hearing that we have to raise salaries in order to attract good people. If that's the case, why are we paying these guys this kind of money if they are not any good?

    • Username
      nitpicker
      - February 27, 2013 at 15:15:29

      PEI has a very defined tourism "off season" and its pretty much anytime outside of late June till mid September. Complaints from cruise ship passengers related to store closures are in regards to places closed up completely during this off season. Stores not opening until 12pm on Sunday would have little impact on cruisers 1) because few cruise ships come here on Sunday and 2)most shops that they go to are not subject to the Sunday shopping law.

  • Username
    sean brown
    - February 26, 2013 at 10:07:40

    You know there's no need to be shopping on sundays anyways. Like sundays have now been forgotten about as a family day to spend with ur family and is now commercialized by big box retailers I myself don't support sunday shopping I believe the stores are open long enough monday thru saturday and even some are 24 hours so there's no need for sunday shopping at all

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