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Tough times often await Catholic priests retiring on P.E.I.

Rev. Eric Dunn, chancellor of the Diocese of Charlottetown, says a major campaign is underway to raise $4 million for a fund that will benefit the care for clergy in their retirement. Guardian photo

Rev. Eric Dunn, chancellor of the Diocese of Charlottetown, says a major campaign is underway to raise $4 million for a fund that will benefit the care for clergy in their retirement.

Published on February 26, 2013
Published on February 25, 2013
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Benevolent Fund , P.E.I. , Charlottetown , Summerside

Catholic priests in P.E.I. often are left struggling to make ends meet when they retire, says the chancellor of the Diocese of Charlottetown.

Rev. Eric Dunn says priests can be ill prepared to meet newly faced living expenses, most notably rent and travel costs, once they begin retirement.

“Some of our retired priests are borderline poverty,’’ said Dunn. “They are just making a go of it.’’

Rev. Joe Brazel, 73, retired near the end of January after serving 45 years as a priest in P.E.I., the past nine at St. Mary’s Holy Family Parish in Kensington.

He was not properly prepared for retirement, which he initially thought would come in June but was moved up by several months.

He is living in a modest one-room motel in Summerside that is shy on amenities (he needs to buy his own towels and dishes) as he awaits the nod to move into a senior housing unit. He has possessions stowed in storage and crammed into his car.

“It’s really a jolt to put it mildly,’’ he said of his new life as a retired priest.

“I feel cabin fever. You’re kind of in another world...once you leave the parish, it’s lonely a bit.’’

Dunn describes Brazel’s situation as “sad’’.

Freeman Whitty of Charlottetown, a member of St. Dunstan’s Basilica Parish, describes as a disgrace having priests retiring to a life of financial hardship after devoting decades to the church.

“It does not feel right,’’ he said. “It just does not.’’

Dunn notes Brazel is one of 16 retired Catholic priests currently living in P.E.I.

That number is certain to grow in the coming years. Roughly 10 priests are expected to retire in the next five to seven years.

Dunn says a benevolent fund was established in 2006 to take care of the needs of retired priests.

He says the Diocese of Charlottetown has contributed more than $200,000 to the fund each of the past two years, but can no longer afford to make such sizable contributions.

“If the diocese keeps doing that, the diocese will be broke,’’ he said.

So, a capital campaign is now underway to pump $4 million into the Priests’ Benevolent Fund, enough to sustain the fund in perpetuity.

Dunn is optimistic the 50 Catholic parishes in the province will step up. He says 90 percent of people surveyed recently said they would give to the fund.

“The people really love and respect their priests,’’ he said.

Catholic priests earn a modest annual salary of about $13,800 but also are provided a parish home and living expenses.

“I was able to live OK,’’ said Brazel, who ministered in 11 different parishes.

“I had a pretty good life, I must say.’’

The free accommodation and living expenses end when the priests retire. Brazel concedes retirement has proven to be intimidating.

“Such a big change — a new way of life,’’ he said.

Dunn stresses the life of a priest is a vocation not a job or a profession.

“You’re not in it to make money,’’ he said. “You are in it to live a life of service to the church.’’

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  • Username
    Catherine
    - February 27, 2013 at 14:33:34

    Shame on the Vatican for not looking after its own. I naively assumed priests would be cared for financially in retirement by the institution in which they served. Obviously this courtesy should not extend to those committed of crimes. And no, funds should not come from the people of PEI but "corporate head office".

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    questions
    - February 26, 2013 at 22:50:12

    I am not Roman Catholic, so please excuse my ignorance... Does a parish priest earn a salary? Or do they just have their living and work expenses covered? And for parishes that are poor, is the salary (or living/work expenses) topped up by the rest of the diocese or archdiocese? If they earn a salary, why do they not pay into a church-run pension plan?

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    From away
    - February 26, 2013 at 22:44:12

    I look at the structure of this organization and how the riches go back to the Vatican. PEI Parishes and the Physical property and real estate is owned by the Vatican. If sold the parisheners who paid for these churches and upkeep get nothing. Wonder where the Money from the sale of the O'Hallaran residence went? I look at schemes where the top king pins get rich and stay rich. The track record of this organization is appaling and yet there is such adulation? A man who looked the other way at Penn State and his managemmet team were judged as a public organization should. With the evidence and track record of how they deal with extreme damaging and criminal behaviour, and now to see an open appeal to support retired priests. The organization is about as effective in preparing employees for retirement as they are in dealing with activity within their organization which can not be categorized as anything other than endemic and pervasive and ...... One man's opinion

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  • Kathleen Gallant
    MISS KITTY
    - February 26, 2013 at 22:19:23

    This is a travesty of justice. Surely Bishop Grecco is aware of the injustice, and the moral issues here. Jesus, Himself, told St. Peter 3 times; Feed my lambs; tend my sheep; feed my sheep. The lambs are the lay faithful, the sheep, the pastors. Therefore, it is up to the Shepherds (aka Bishops) to ensure the pastors are tended and fed, so that they can feed the lambs. Surely there is sufficient room in some of those parishes houses for one more little sheep. Wake up for Heaven's sake.

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  • Username
    a biblical opinion
    - February 26, 2013 at 22:04:35

    We need to be clear on what the Bible says about ministry. If the catholic church is presenting the one true gospel which comes from God's word, the Bible. Then we know what it says, it says, ...work as a servant, to the one true God. God is all knowing and I believe the Lord knows, that his words and his truths are being ignored by the catholic church. All catholic church rules have been made by man and God has made a promise to tear down what is not of him. This is one way God is tearing down what has not been built on HIM! All you see across this world, what is happening in our catholic church, is a promise from God. If you do not believe me, read his word, research it, like you would if you were buying something new. He is tearing down and revealing to his people what he did not create.....religion. It brought him to the cross and he loves us too much to see us DIE to it.

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  • Username
    Captain Canuck
    - February 26, 2013 at 15:10:14

    Some of you believe that a Catholic Priest is a paid position. The church pays for housing, not the priest. Some priests can afford a used car, most can't. If you're in it for the money, you're not a Catholic Priest. The vow of poverty is optional depending on the order you join... however, the poverty often - nay almost always comes with the job and not necessarily with the vow.

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    • Username
      To Captain Canuck
      - February 27, 2013 at 07:55:22

      "Catholic priests earn a modest annual salary of about $13,800 but also are provided a parish home and living expenses."...You should learn how to read before you comment.

  • Username
    private confessions
    - February 26, 2013 at 14:45:15

    I suggest the priests offer a guaranteed l forgiveness confessional booth outside of province house charging $1.00 for each sin forgiven. They'd have to take shifts to handle the traffic but they'd all make a great living!!

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      Jason a
      - February 26, 2013 at 16:19:11

      private confessions your comments make me sick that is no way to talk to an individual that has devoted his whole life to helping other people if there was more people in the world that devoted themselves to helping others like the priests nuns and ministers and churches this world would be a much better place

  • Charles Foster
    Charles Foster
    - February 26, 2013 at 13:27:25

    .I am not a Catholic but I am certainly disappointed by some of the comments that I see here. I do not understand why the unfortunate plight of those who have dedicated their lives to the service of others should generate such mean spirited remarks.

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  • Username
    Fed up Catholic
    - February 26, 2013 at 12:12:19

    I am APPALLED at the audacity of the Diocese of Charlottetown to once again come soliciting to the Roman Catholic faithful on PEI. My family and I live a modest life and live within our means, making sure we look after ourselves and not depend on charity to survive. I have total respect for these men that devote their lives to the church and God and offer themselves to the needs of parishoners across the Island, but they must take the first step in providing for their own needs once retired. Set up a budget each month using the money they have. The priests might consider using the money they charge to parishoners for funerals, weddings, masses and baptism to fund their retirement, as I am sure it never gets recorded on their income tax!! Their income may be low but their expenses are based upon their own personal need and social status. Cut back on the expensive cars, cottages and trips around the globe and set aside a small amount each month for a retirement plan. After all, they only have to look after ONE person, not a family!!! I think the Diocese needs to STOP coming cap in hand to the people of PEI constantly looking for money and instead look after the money they have responsibly and not such as it is a luxury that will never run out. My comments to the Diocese of Charlottetown.....:Welcome to the real world!'.

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    Howard Marshall
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:29:09

    I am very much saddened by this state of affairs for the retired priests. However, one must approach this situation with common sense. These men have given their lives for the Church and its mission of proclaiming the Gospel. They have been true servants of the servants of Christ. Now it is time for them to receive the love and care they deserve from those to whom they ministered. These men are 'family' to the active priests still ministering here. This Diocese has many rectories, some very large with only one priest living in them, that could house one or two of these retired men. Indeed, I dare say there are even a few rectories not now used that could house a few of the priests who are in relatively good health. Every effort should be made to keep them in the atmosphere they spent most of their lives in anyway. They would be more comfortable in that venue. When the time comes for them to need more care, then nursing homes and other facilities can be looked at. But for many of them, they can live quite comfortably in the familiar surroundings of a rectory doing most things for themselves. If the parises were willing to have one or two of these men come in and even perhaps help out from time to time in some way as they are able and willing, it would be a lot less expensive for all. This is not a good time to put heavy collections on the faithful. It is the Church's duty to look after its clergy morally, and above all, with charity, for" without charity [the Church] is nothing."

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    • Kathleen Gallant
      MISS KITTY
      - February 26, 2013 at 22:10:05

      A very good idea. Wish the Bishop had thought of it.

  • Username
    Disgruntled Catholic
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:18:32

    Unbelievable what the leadership in the catholic church do. Why in heavens name would any poor retired priest who works to over 70 years have to be out on his own when he can no longer minister to the flock? The fact that they are retiring should not come as any surprise . Where was the palnning for the last 50 years? Ok Pope , Cardinals and Bishops follow in Chists teachings and look after these poor folks _ sounds like Benedict is going to have a new residence with lots of rooms_maybe he would like some company!!

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  • Username
    avo un papum
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:05:49

    I bet Pope Benny the 16th won't be retiring in poverty at the Vatican. Surrounded by the billions and billions of dollars that the church has taken from around the world and the opulence of priceless works of art and all the modern amenities, the Vatican is truly out of touch with the reality we face on this little blue marble spinning through space. Then again, those that commit themselves to the RC church don't really live in the 21st century anyway, at least in their mind....

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  • Username
    Jason
    - February 26, 2013 at 11:01:37

    Maybe they should have chose a better job that paid better instead of paying in "eternal salvation"

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    Roy Shea
    - February 26, 2013 at 09:55:06

    Just one question, why does he have to leave the parish just because he is retired?

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    Ben Charlottetown
    - February 26, 2013 at 09:35:21

    If the Church didn't have to pay for the sexual abuse cases, there would be more money for retirement.

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    • Username
      Anne
      - February 26, 2013 at 11:48:35

      Why can these retired priests not remain in their last parish and continue to reside in the home provided by the church with the priest who is replacing them?If memory serves me correctly, most of these houses were quite large and would have available rooms. Instead, they continue to cover the expenses on these places for one priest. Not very cost effective in this day and age. Something to think about.

  • Username
    Vocation Vacation
    - February 26, 2013 at 09:26:16

    Don't priests take a vow of poverty?

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  • Username
    UPWESTER
    - February 26, 2013 at 09:25:50

    The pope and his minions live a regal life of splendour in Rome, it's time they started to look after their own. The Catholic church is one one of the wealthiest orginizations in the world. They even have their own bank. The Catholic church has sucked all the money out of the parishes but gives very little in return. It's time they started to look after their own. They don't even pay minimum wage, for gosh sakes. They were able to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars to try and hide the shame of the pedophiles in their ranks, they should look after their priests in retirement, instead of throwing them on the street homeless.Everyone closes their eyes to this and keep on giving.It's time to stop.

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  • Username
    Thomas
    - February 26, 2013 at 09:19:01

    Poor , poor ,retired priests. Never a mention of the "normal" retired folks ? The catholic is among the 3 richest churches in the world and they let their retired priests live in poverty.....tsk tsk

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  • Username
    Townie
    - February 26, 2013 at 08:40:33

    why isn't the church taking care of them?

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  • Username
    ISLANDER
    - February 26, 2013 at 08:22:57

    We are all in the same boat, just getting by. Welcome to life out side the church.

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  • Username
    Senator
    - February 26, 2013 at 07:36:04

    What a joke this is..... I bet Dunn has more cash that he needs.....most of the priest don't look like they are near starvation......I believe they make something like 1500.00 a month, with no living expenses, other than car and gas............how many of them travel and or own cottages. I for one will NOT be giving to this fund.

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    • Username
      LA
      - February 27, 2013 at 09:11:58

      You seem to be operating on a lot of suppositions and "bets". How about you actually find out before judging? just a crazy thought.

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    candrayo
    - February 26, 2013 at 07:34:44

    Well it takes a job or a profession to pay the bills...WHAT were you thinking of retiring on?

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  • Username
    not happy
    - February 26, 2013 at 00:43:57

    The Catholc Religion is one of the riches buinesses in the world, maybe it should look after it's own, instead of people pouring more money into it.

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    Patricia
    - February 26, 2013 at 00:31:23

    I am appalled at the lack of free or inexpensive housing for PEI retired priests. Years ago the O'Halloran sisters willed their beautiful residence on Great George St. (opposite the former location of Queen School) to be used exclusively for a retirement home for Island Priests. Apparently it was sold. Was the money not used for a trust fund for retired Priests. If it was ,the fund would now be huge as they died at least 50 years ago.

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      candrayo
      - February 26, 2013 at 11:31:33

      I appalled that you think a Priest should live for free.

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