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Tories now have two leaders

Steven Myers, left, is leader of the PC party while Hal Perry, right, is now the Opposition leader. Guardian photos

Steven Myers, left, is leader of the PC party while Hal Perry, right, is now the Opposition leader.

Published on February 1, 2013
Published on February 1, 2013

Hal Perry says he will remain as Opposition leader while Steven Myers was elected interim PC leader

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Progressive Conservative Party , P.E.I.

Hal Perry says he has no intention of stepping aside as Opposition leader, despite the fact his fellow Tory MLA Steven Myers has been elected interim PC party leader.

Perry was elected Opposition leader on Wednesday by a majority of the five-member Tory caucus.

But after Myers was elected interim party leader in a vote of 12 to 3 by the Progressive Conservative Party’s executive and MLAs on Thursday, some have suggested Perry should relinquish his position to Myers.

In an interview with The Guardian Friday, Perry said he is staying put.

“I’m not hearing from the membership that (the two positions) should only be one person. They’re overwhelmingly giving me their support,” he said.

“I think that it’s fantastic that we have two people. I think we can work together. We have one from the east and one from the west, what more can we ask for? This is a fantastic situation that’s playing out in front of us.”

But not everyone in the party sees things so positively. It has created a confusing and unprecedented situation with two MLAs in the same caucus holding key leadership roles.

As Opposition leader, Perry represents Islanders as a watchdog to government and an advocate on public issues and initiatives. He leads his fellow Opposition members in scrutinizing legislation to ensure it is properly considered and that alternate views on public policy are brought forward and debated.

As interim party leader, Myers is responsible for the PC party of P.E.I., its members, rules and policies. He must ensure all 27 districts have active and healthy associations, he must oversee spending and fundraising initiatives and must help develop sound policies and rules that reflect the ideals of the membership.

The party executive and elected MLAs vote for interim party leader. The Opposition leader is chosen only by the five MLAs and must be an elected member of the legislature to hold the position.

“The same could have been asked of Steven (Myers) — why didn’t he withdraw his name going into (the interim leader election) just to avoid this confusion? But I don’t like to point fingers. We have to stop pointing fingers and rebuild,” - Hal Perry, Opposition leader

However, this is believed to be the first time in P.E.I. history these two positions have been split between two MLAs that belong to the same party within the same caucus.

The positions have been split before, but only when the party leader does not have a seat in the legislature.

Perry said he knows there is confusion about the dual leadership positions and the differing roles they play.

He also said the party’s so-called ‘backroom’ has been trying to convince him to abandon his claim to the Opposition leader position and allow Myers to take over and allow the party to move forward under one leader.

But Perry said he has no intention of backing away.

“I really believe this can work and I’m not prepared to step aside,” he said.

“The same could have been asked of Steven (Myers) — why didn’t he withdraw his name going into (the interim leader election) just to avoid this confusion? But I don’t like to point fingers. We have to stop pointing fingers and rebuild.”

Myers has said he believes one person should hold both positions.

“I’m not going to change my mind on it but at this point it’s not within my control,” Myers told reporters Thursday.

Perry has the support of former party leader Olive Crane and Souris-Elmira MLA Colin LaVie. And as long as he has their support, he can remain leader of the Opposition.

He insists this will be positive for the party, and that he and Myers will be able to work together for the good of the PC party.

 

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    et tu, brutus?
    - February 3, 2013 at 12:32:53

    These 2 sitting opposite Ghiz and Sheridan and the other ninnies in the Richmond Street daycare (province house) make the case for Maritime Union stronger with every passing day. PEI simply lacks the talent to have any quality politicians. 145,000 inbred hicks with family trees that look like Christmas wreaths will do that for ya.

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    ELECTRICALENGINEER
    - February 3, 2013 at 11:45:53

    “I’m not hearing from the membership that (the two positions) should only be one person. They’re overwhelmingly giving me their support,” he said. Mr Perry, they voted for someone else! Don't you get it?

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    Chet
    - February 2, 2013 at 12:13:00

    I am going to take exception with several of the comments taking shots at these two gentlemen for what seems to be looks, appearances, or whatever. It is very sad. My parents moved here beause they felt, when visitiing, the people were genuine and less fake than in Ontario and BC where they had lived before. I grew up here critical of many things here but I did enjoy how people were plainer and less showy than my relatives in other parts of the country, for example. It saddens me to read these cheap shots. Meanwhile our Premier has been gone away for God knows how long supposedly on our tab and nobody seems to care.What's with that? I think we are paying for vanity and it is one of the key problems in politics and governance today. We are distracted from the facts and the issues by shallow conceptions of celebrity. The PCs have huge problems but it has nothing to with anybody's appearance. I am voting NDP, I want politics and life to be about something real not just shallow, vain and meaningless crap. That is what our political culture is all about today. It is rather sad.

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    Funny
    - February 2, 2013 at 11:54:37

    Myers belongs in a cartoon somewhere! Look at him, who could take him serious. Here Perry is looking forward to working with and Soggy Diaper Stephen is wining like babies do!!! Good Lord we are doomed with this wine-bag!

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  • Username
    PLEASE CLARIFY
    - February 2, 2013 at 11:45:25

    I have to agree with Nick. Comments should be more civil here and not focus on physical appearances or aspersions but instead on what is going on behind the scenes. I also have to agree that there is obviously still a struggle between Olive's supporters and the backroom elite (executive included). The 2 MLAs in this 'game' are going to have to be pretty tough to absorb all the criticism that should rightly go to the king-makers and coup organizers who, you can bank on it, are not going to step forward while the arrows are still flying. But they are planning BIG TIME right now. Oh yes - they are cookling up schemes and exerting influence and pressure. Mr Myers - you will be sacrificed on the pyre of 'no longer useful to us' once the race for the leader of the party starts in earnest. Mr Perry - you will be cast as a puppet for Olive's supporters even if you personally believe in many of her platform issues. NEWSFLASH for the backroom elite - as much as you may wish otherwise, the PNP question will not go away. Mr. Myers, Mr Perry and ANY OTHER person who might step forward to lead this party will be asked the question: "where do you stand on a full public enquiry into the PNP program?" There will be MANY MANY votes riding on the answer.

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    MAKE
    - February 2, 2013 at 10:51:21

    Make it work guys.It will not be that long before yhere is a full time new leader.The Ghiz government is a disaster,Islanders deserve better.Make it happen.A guy from the East a guy from the West.A good way to unite.

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  • Username
    bye the way
    - February 2, 2013 at 09:29:50

    Is you.... or is you not...two of the Soggy-Bottom Boys? Keep paddling folks...I hear Banjo music....

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    nick
    - February 2, 2013 at 09:17:17

    hej folks, - be civil, - our system is by the people for the people. --- We elect our 'peers', so the two candidates were elected by their 'peers',-- they reflect the community they represent, so be careful with the slander, - they are your mirror image, - they dared come forward, which is more than you cansay for many oif the armchair critics. The choice was made by the executive and the situationm they have created is the same as it was with Olive as the opposition leader and a different person for leader of the party. it is obvious the executive is playing weird games, - they are the ones hurtiung the party, --- too bad here was a golden opportunity. it is also obvious that Islanders better prepare to vote f or the NDP, since we cannot afford to re-elect the Liberal, ---- not too bad to get used to, - anything is better than Ghiz, the liberals are noit an option any more. The power brokers in the PC party do not have a brain, any candidates will be hampered by them and will not be independent , most bright people will not come forward as candiudates with that baggage. Idiots---------------------------------------- UI ,. btion a v ionwarm .

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    SG
    - February 2, 2013 at 09:11:46

    Yes the Tory's have two leaders and many Islanders' are confused as to Why? Many Islanders I've spoken to are also questioning their choice of Party President. I hope the NDP is in organizing mode as if there was ever a time for their Party to gain Huge support it is NOW. Many Islanders are enduring huge economic hardships presently which will only increase come April when the HST is implemented. Our Business and Corporate Sectors will benefit while our Low and Middle income sectors will endure a Huge financial burden. If the people of B.C. were able to get rid of the HST why can't Islanders? Islanders should have been given a VOICE on HST before it was Implemented.

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    Bully Boys
    - February 2, 2013 at 08:57:45

    Liberals are at their usual bullying this morning. Check the comments.

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    patty
    - February 2, 2013 at 08:53:07

    It appears Olive Crane is still controlling the PC's. Voting in Perry quickly before the voting of the interm party leader by all PC elective. Who's playing backroom games now???

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    George
    - February 2, 2013 at 08:51:16

    The Tories have made an unexpected wise move in offering two candidates for the electorate to choose from. I expect many poles leading up to the next election to aid the Party in choosing who will lead the Tories into that clash. The reason I call this a wise move is obvious, this party has lost it’s connection with Islanders and is desperate to find it again. The back room puppet masters of this Party have failed to manipulate Islanders to their will and now need our help to find a new direction. Are they worth our effort, only you can decide.

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  • Username
    country boy
    - February 2, 2013 at 08:44:59

    Takes 2 guys to replace a good woman.

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    Henry Sow
    - February 2, 2013 at 08:02:58

    Two leaders maybe not such a bad idea. Regardless, it would be better than what we have now with the Ghiz government.

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  • Username
    WHAT NEXT
    - February 2, 2013 at 07:31:07

    why not three one leader in each county

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  • Username
    Ouch
    - February 2, 2013 at 07:28:59

    Islanders have been beaten red and blue, and it hurts like hell.

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    voter
    - February 2, 2013 at 07:08:17

    so ? who gets the office ?//

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    Send in the Clowns
    - February 2, 2013 at 07:04:54

    I think Olive had better move over to the NDP or we're going to end up with Ghiz for another term. And THAT would sink the island.

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    Charles Alfred
    - February 1, 2013 at 23:11:44

    Who in his right mind would buy a used car from either of these guys. I mean actually take a look at them and read what they say. I this for real? Gong show is right. Bring on the red noses and funny shoes. God help us all! Looks like Ghiz is in for life at this rate.

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    Jarrod
    - February 1, 2013 at 22:48:43

    There is something downright comical about this.

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    Archie
    - February 1, 2013 at 22:48:18

    ....Actually no leaders, just wannabees. For the love of life look at them. Imagine seeing these two roll into a meeting!

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    ed
    - February 1, 2013 at 22:03:17

    Great dumb and dumber leading the Tories.

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      Dhobey
      - February 4, 2013 at 17:05:58

      Arm wrestling in a restaurant, the guy must have "chicken wings".

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    Big Bang
    - February 1, 2013 at 21:58:06

    Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubbell, oh Ghiz must be smiling!

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  • Username
    Entertained Byitall
    - February 1, 2013 at 21:07:42

    Two Leaders? Shouldn't the headline read Tories Now Have Two Party-appointed Increased Salary Earners

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      Dhobey
      - February 4, 2013 at 10:26:01

      Two leaders, I assume one is Progressive, other is Conservative

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    Take the Money and Run
    - February 1, 2013 at 21:01:19

    .....GONG SHOW.......

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    Donnie
    - February 1, 2013 at 20:08:45

    Wow. This the best the Tories can dredge up? I can't see anyone voting for the Hank Hill lookalike, so the infighting may not be a great start for him....

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      Archie
      - February 2, 2013 at 07:09:36

      ....Actually no leaders, just wannabees. For the love of life look at them. Imagine seeing these two roll into a meeting!

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