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Pro-choice group marches to premier's office

A small group of women marched to the premier’s office in Charlottetown to mark the 25th anniversary of the decriminalization of abortion and to call for abortions to be made available in P.E.I. Guardian photo

A small group of women marched to the premier’s office in Charlottetown to mark the 25th anniversary of the decriminalization of abortion and to call for abortions to be made available in P.E.I.

Published on January 28, 2013
Published on January 28, 2013
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed

A small group of women marched to the premier’s office in Charlottetown this morning to mark the 25th anniversary of the decriminalization of abortion and to call for abortions to be made available in P.E.I.

The group of about 10 women braved the frigid temperatures to bring balloons and cupcakes to Premier Robert Ghiz’s office in celebration of the landmark ruling.

They brought 24 cupcakes – one for each year women in Canada have had the right to access an abortion with one missing the signify the fact women in P.E.I. must still travel off-Island to access this procedure.

“Given that the premier has not made a statement on this issue except to say the status quo would be maintained here, we think that is an unacceptable state of affairs,” said Josie Baker of the P.E.I. Abortion Rights Network.

“They're putting women's health at risk.”

Ghiz was not in his office this morning to meet the group. They were told he is currently out of the province.

In his absence, the group presented a card signed by numerous supporters to one of his staffers. They then brought out cupcakes and poured juice into paper cups, inviting all staff members in the premier’s office to join them for a toast and a treat to celebrate the anniversary. Only two men on their way out of the office accepted the offer.

Ashley Fraser brought her two young girls to take part in the march, which the group called a celebration of the Supreme Court decision 25 years ago that struck down the laws that prohibited abortions in Canada.

She said she felt it was important to bring them along, as she hopes they will not have to continue to fight for the right to abortion services when they are grown.

“I’d like to see a change on P.E.I. for my daughters or any other women here,” Fraser said.

Prince Edward Island is currently the only province in Canada that does not offer any abortion services.

The provincial government does cover the cost of the procedure off-Island, but only when done in a hospital and if a woman has been referred by a doctor. The closest hospital that performs the service is the Queen Elizabeth II Hospital in Halifax.

The province will not put any money toward abortions performed at private clinics, like the Mogentaler clinic in Fredericton.

Fees at private clinics, where a doctor's referral is not needed, range from $600 to $900.

The province also does not fund travel or other incidentals associated with travelling out-of-province for this procedure.

Last year, a group of young women revived the issue of the lack of abortion access in the province and staged rallies and garnered local and national media attention in their efforts.

Yet Ghiz and Health Minister Doug Currie remained firm current practices and policies regarding abortion will not change.

 

The Guardian will have more on this issue online later today and in tomorrow's print edition.

 

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  • Username
    education schmeducation
    - January 29, 2013 at 19:12:58

    It would do this island good if A) every person graduated grade 12 with a merit-based diploma (ie. not passed through) and B) every church was shut down and demolished and ministers and priests given their pink slips. I have never in my life read so much innuendo and cockamamie B-S from the anti-abortion bible thumping sky daddy believers as I have on the forums today. Give it up people! You have zero Zero ZERO say in what a woman does with her body. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

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    roundabout
    - January 29, 2013 at 14:26:34

    The government and the sky daddy believers on this forum are spinning faster than an old fogey in a PEI roundabout. Bring back surgical abortion services that PEI had before 1982. 'Nuff said.

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    HypocritesRUs
    - January 29, 2013 at 06:08:30

    The pro-baby/ anti choice brigade are a comical ( albeit hypocritical ) bunch ! Self righteous arm chair critics & analysts with far too much time on their hands! They rant & rave about life being "precious" and yet think nothing of the chicken they devoured last night or the creature that was destroyed to make their leather shoes or the animal that was tortured all in the name of research or for testing!! It's a sure fire bet that some of these pro-baby fiends are pro-war! Others pro death penalty ! Also safe to assume that some choose to use their religious beliefs as a means to belittle, judge, ridicule, label, & criticize others!! "Pro-lifers" indeed! But I guess the only life that truly matters are the ones you can dress up in cute little clothes and attempt to mold in to a miniature carbon copy of themselves! They expect people to bring a child in to the world regardless of their financial situation & then complain about their tax dollars being 'wasted" in the form of a welfare check! They suggest that the "child" should be permitted to live and then placed for adoption - even though there are already endless children in the adoption / foster system that no one wants - including themselves!. They suggest that abortion is wrong then act appalled & upset when they read or hear of a horrendous story of child abuse/ murder because a parent was not properly equipped or prepared to care for a child or mentally & emotionally stable! Even more ridiculous are the likes of the commentor who said " Remember the outcry over the dog that was drowned in the West River? Don't our unborn children deserve at least the same?" Clearly someone not quite intelligent or informed enough to be able to differentiate between a fully formed, functioning, living & breathing creature ( a dog) and a partially developed parasite ( fetus)! 7 billion people in the word,..thousands dying every day from starvation, lack of clean water, lack of housing, lack of proper medical care and war,.. but let us just add a few thousand more every day because you think babies are adorable!!! Sure why not!!

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    • Username
      Parasites are living too
      - January 29, 2013 at 10:26:47

      Hypocritesrus, Thank you for that rant. I agree with you on so many points, but differ on just one. I am pro-life, but please don't assume anything about me or why I believe the things I do. I am not religious, I enjoy chicken, I wear leather belts, and I'm very thankful for the deaths of other beings supporting my life. You make me sad, because their are too many intelligent people like you out in the world that have taken this side and vehemently defend abortion. Keep in mind that what you see as a parasite, others see as a symbiotic relationship between mother and child - albeit, one-sided. I agree that the world is full of contradictions and sad people living sad lives, but the world needs hope right now and lots of it. Defending abortion for health and safety is perfectly understandable, however I cannot and will not ever support abortion as a way out. Karma will finds its way to those that make these poor decisions. Do not be confused, this is not a women's rights issue, it is a human rights issue. Women's rights is about equality and opportunity, abortion prevents a living thing - a human thing that you once were - from growing. Cell by cell it grows and it started the minute the sperm hit the egg. I think it would be great if each sexual act was an act of love and through these sexual acts we raise humans (parasites) to live surrounded by love. Not a world of hedonism and sadness with terse language to support the sad decisions made along the way.

    • Username
      foodforworms
      - January 29, 2013 at 10:29:47

      Hypocritesrus, wow! that's some rant. If you took a fraction of the time to consider the arguments as you did to write this then you might be better equiped. I see that you must read some of the regualr talking points about how we already have way to many people on the planet. You might take a second to see who is writing those points. Population control has been around a long time, and those pushing it are eugenists that see minorities as "parasites" as well. Not a great bunch to be putting yourself in with. In regards to a 'living, breathing creature' (nice that you use creature, because that is what a dog is" having more 'rights' than a partially developed parasite..really, you value your own life so little. I feel sorry for you. Maybe us "pro-lifers" (like its a bad thing, ha) fight so deligently to save the life of children, because we value life. That might be why we are pro war (not necessarily so) because we value the life that may be taken away. Making assumptions like placing us all in with Pro-war, pro-death penalty is a little childish as is the constant name calling. @ Piet Hein, i have said many times to these women that I will gladly help them through their pregnancy, help them after their pregnancy, and if they choose not to keep their baby, to gladly take care of the baby too. Why you assume otherwise is beyond me, but I know more people that share my thoughts than don't

    • Username
      HypocritesRUs
      - January 29, 2013 at 13:44:35

      It's amusing reading rants by people who can't quite grasp the reality that a fetus is nothing more than a "parasite"!!,..By definition a parasite is "an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment." So unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't "parasite" is a fitting term for a fetus! Get over it! Another definition you might want to look up FoodForWorms is the word "life",. "The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional" You'll note that no where does it state HUMAN!! Either ALL life is precious & valuable,..or NO life is! Which is it?? Anyone that is truly "pro-life" (thus far, I have never met a single individual who can honestly claim that title) would never suggest that a canine existence ( or any other existence ) is in any less important or precious than that of a human. We are after all, merely animals too!! As for the whole " "Making assumptions like placing us all in with Pro-war, pro-death penalty is a little childish as is the constant name calling"...Where did I ever say "ALL"??,..I clearly said "some". Sure, I have personally never met one pro-baby fanatic that didn't fall in to one of those categories, but I am more than willing to be surprised some day. As for the whole "childish" thing,..interesting you say that,..your last comment alone "I know more people that share my thoughts than don't" screams immaturity!! It basically says "I know I am right because other people agree with me!! Comical!! It also kinda screams early twenties & a bible thumper but that is neither here nor there - just my opinion after all! But then I guess one shouldn't really expect any better from a person who basically denies the reality that thousands are dying every day across the globe from lack of food, water, medical and proper housing and chalks it up to being basically a conspiracy!!

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      Crys
      - January 29, 2013 at 13:56:16

      THANK YOU!! You took the words right out of my mouth! Thank you for realizing that things in this world are bigger than just you or I! And that people are so selfish, especially telling others how they are wrong for thinking that it should be a CHOICE!!

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    Piet Hein
    - January 29, 2013 at 00:31:55

    How many of you people who are so firmly against abortion have offered to adopt a n unwanted baby or maybe become foster parents or even offered some form of help to a young woman who is forced to bear a child she does not want or is not equipped to look after. I would say you never have and never will. You are all a bunch of hypocrites who sit in judgment of other people and never raise your hands to help. As Bob Dylan said once in a song - "Even Jesus Would not forgive what you do."

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  • Username
    Are you kidding me
    - January 28, 2013 at 20:28:21

    What country are we in.......this isn't a third world country you know people. Woman have rights you know..........guess what they even let us vote. Its no ones business if someone wants or needs an abortion........under any circumstances. For once mind your business...........we have hospitals here.........so why they are not availabe for abortions is beyond me. Its called Pro Choice........and we have that right.......and no one has the right to deny those rights........not the church or the government..........its 2013 lets get with the rest of the country..........if you won't make abortions available here then you should pay the entire costs of women going to Halifax. And before everyone jumps on the your a murder, or you've probably had one. The answer is I have not........never been under circumstances where I needed one.......but I do believe in Human rights..........everyones.

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      gmsand
      - January 28, 2013 at 22:08:10

      Re: Are you kidding me - So, murdering an unborn baby is a "human right"? Are you serious? Except in cases of rape or a threat to the health of the mother, why don't we require the woman to have the baby and then, if she still wants to, or can't afford to care for a baby, give it up for adoption. I'm sure there are plenty of young couples who would love to adopt a healthy baby.

    • Username
      HypocritesRUs
      - January 29, 2013 at 14:27:19

      @ GMSAND - " I'm sure there are plenty of young couples who would love to adopt a healthy baby." Worldwide, the countless kids already in the foster / adoption system proves otherwise!! Jane & John Doe for the most part don't care about the kids already in need of a loving home,..they care that their precious little muffin has her Mommy's nose and his Daddy's smile! And I seriously wonder, how many of those ranting about adoption are ok with John & John Doe or Jane & Jane Doe adopting precious little "accidents"??

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    gmsand
    - January 28, 2013 at 20:28:03

    Please tell me how preventing abortions "puts a woman's health at risk"? Obviously, if a woman's health is at risk, then I believe a physician would perform an abortion to save her life. However, most abortions in the U.S. are performed for non-medical reasons, because the woman just doesn't want a baby, for whatever reason. Young people should consider the consequences of their actions before an innocent life is taken.

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      Piet Hein
      - January 28, 2013 at 20:56:47

      GMSAND, and so you don't think her mental health should be considered as she is forced to carry to term a baby she does not want and quite probably does not have the means to support?

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    lydia
    - January 28, 2013 at 17:54:46

    I hear Ghiz is in Egypt with the University President, - interesting timing, - visiting a country where women have few rights and generally are treated as objects, and not human beings.

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  • Username
    fedup
    - January 28, 2013 at 17:40:35

    If you were not raped than abortion is murder. Don't have sex if your unable to take responsibility for your actions, your choice should start there. Not after the fact

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    • Username
      Chtown
      - January 28, 2013 at 20:40:17

      So... according to you, if a condom breaks, abortion is murder, but if someone was raped abortion is justifiable murder? or no longer murder? This is confusing. How do you define murder? Isn't murder, murder regardless? What other murders would be ok ? In your little world would the woman have to wait for the courts to decide she was raped before aborting - or would she just have to pop you a text message to find out if its ok or not? What about murdering the rapist? Would that be ok? No? Yes?

    • Username
      Wow
      - January 28, 2013 at 20:48:05

      WOW! Do you even understand what you are saying here? The procedure for abortion is the SAME regardless of how a woman get's pregnant. Therefore, HOW she gets pregnant is irrelevant. To say that ''murder'' is null an void if someone is raped is ridiculous. The bottom line is, it's none of your business how she got pregnant (unless she is you, or someone you got pregnant). It's none of YOUR business what SHE chooses to do with HER body. That's what women's rights are. THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE what they do. Not yours, not mine. THEIRS. Maybe you need to stop looking at what others are doing, and look at why you are so concerned with THEIR lives. What is missing from yours that you need to judge someone else to make yourself feel better? Why don't you tell us, then we will tell you what to think and do about it?

  • Username
    poor mom
    - January 28, 2013 at 17:17:08

    Yep, my daughter thanks god they don't cover travel expenses, and that I couldn't afford them. Funny the cost of not having $100 extra bucks at the time...

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    • Username
      SAP
      - January 28, 2013 at 18:33:29

      With all due respect, if your scenario is actually real, I am happy it worked out, but to suggest that $100 is the difference or a main factor in making such a HUGE decision is a bit simplistic, and not very realistic considering the costs to follow of caring for a child. I suspect most woman would give it MUCH more thought than simply, "hey, can I scrape up $100?"

    • Username
      SAD
      - January 28, 2013 at 19:02:53

      Remember the outcry over the dog that was drowned in the West River? Don't our unborn children deserve at least the same?

  • Username
    DrB
    - January 28, 2013 at 16:08:18

    A whole 10!?! LOL, 500,000 marched in Washington DC last week for the exact opposite cause. hmm.

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    • Username
      chrissy
      - January 28, 2013 at 16:39:11

      You could probably get 500,000 for eathier or. Plus this is P.EI and it was probably people who knew each other so of course its going to be small.

    • Username
      duh
      - January 28, 2013 at 19:57:15

      How many people do you think can fit in the premier's office? When they have a rally they regularly get 200 people easy.

  • Username
    Chtown
    - January 28, 2013 at 15:49:18

    @ Islander : They are not celebrating abortion. No woman who has one does so under happy circumstances. It is a very heart wrenching complicated decision, that a woman often has to make after being abandoned by the father. They are celebrating 25 years of Women's Rights.

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      islander
      - January 28, 2013 at 19:54:59

      So, women did not have rights 25 years ago, and now they do? If that is the case, good. However, it seems that they specifically are celebrating the decision to legalize abortion. If women who had abortions are not happy, what are we celebrating? Shouldn't we be mourning with them?

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    Gerry
    - January 28, 2013 at 15:40:21

    @IF, and what other noteworthy comments have "you seen" in addition to the "rape" issue; or are you being selective because of YOUR beliefs? Furhter more, why would you think rapes are not reported to the police on a regular basis?

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    Laura
    - January 28, 2013 at 15:36:21

    Congratulations to these women for making a stand. We need more people here on the island to raise these issues and get rid of the status quo. Lack of abortion services offered on PEI are hurting all, but especially low-income, women. It's time to move forward. There isn't even a Planned Parenthood on PEI, and we are sorely lacking in proper sexual education, family planning and reproductive justice. Hooray for 25 years of reproductive rights for Women in Canada!

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    • Username
      comorbid
      - January 28, 2013 at 19:58:23

      I do believe those women mean well. Even the one who brought her children to the protest. However, I think they are misguided in thinking balloons, toasts and cake are appropriate for what most of us consider a 'necessary' or 'sometimes permissible' evil... It seems like a baby shower gone very wrong.

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    Twiggy
    - January 28, 2013 at 14:30:25

    Here are some quotes from the ' young Liberal men' that run our province in regard to women's reproductive health services. The province is not ready to take on the extra costs associated with abortion services, Health Minister Doug Currie, Nov. 9, 2011. Sending Islanders to the mainland for abortions is a good compromise, Premier Robert Ghiz, Dec. 23. 2011. Be sure to directly criticize these ' young Liberal men' when next you see them, friends of the decent, the legal and the good. These comments are not just out of line but intended to pander to the anti-choicers. Excellent demonstration. Put it straight to the decision makers. Ignore the anti-choicers. Well done!

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    islandeur
    - January 28, 2013 at 13:35:25

    I think that demonstration was in poor taste. Sure, do a demonstration, but to paint abortion as something to celebrate is tacky at the very least and offensive to many.

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    IF
    - January 28, 2013 at 13:32:13

    I've seen comments that this needs to be easily accessible because of rape. How many abortions are due to rape? If it is a considerable number, we should expect to see medical professionals have to report these procedures to the police in the same way as gets done if a woman or child shows up bruised and says they walked into a door.

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    • Username
      Privacy
      - January 28, 2013 at 15:59:50

      If people don't want to talk about being raped, they should not have to. There is such thing as privacy you know.

    • Username
      If
      - January 28, 2013 at 18:22:28

      If you are aware of a violent crime, I think it should be brought forward. Are you also saying battering women is a private matter that doctors who treat it should ignore as well? Very good times for rapists and wife beaters.

    • Username
      SAP
      - January 28, 2013 at 18:37:10

      The last reliable source statistic I read, showed close to 50 000 a year in the U.S. alone. Not an insignificant number.

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      IF
      - January 29, 2013 at 07:52:34

      About the same as CNN is saying will die of the flu. That's out of how many total abortions?

    • Username
      SAP
      - January 29, 2013 at 09:50:56

      So, is it PK in those instances? If it is not significant, why bother trying to save people from the flu, hey, it's only around 50 000. Why worry about drunk drivers, the people they kill only represent a small amount of the people who die every year. Let's decide what number is significant to fit our own ideal. If you want to play that way, out of all of the children who die on this planet every year, what percentage are abortions? That's out of how many child deaths?

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