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P.E.I., Atlantic Canada firmly reject regional union: poll

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Maritime union

Published on December 4, 2012
Published on December 3, 2012
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed

EXCLUSIVE

Topics :
Corporate Research Associates , The Guardian , Maritime union , Atlantic Canada , Don Mills , Nova Scotia

P.E.I. and Atlantic Canada are firmly against the notion of merging into one province, according to an exclusive Corporate Research Associates poll commissioned for The Guardian.

The poll of 1,500 Atlantic Canadians shows 67 per cent of those polled reject a political union of the Atlantic provinces into a single province with one government for the entire region.

P.E.I. also shows a 67 per cent rejection rate for this idea.

A similar poll conducted by CRA in 1999 asking the same question resulted in the same levels of opposition.

Don Mills, chairman and CEO of Corporate Research Associates (CRA), said these results clearly demonstrate Islanders and Atlantic Canadians are not interested in being amalgamated.

“They want to have their political independence, and that has not changed one little bit,” Mills said in an interview with The Guardian Monday.

“This poll shows that political union is a non-starter so there’s not going to be anybody who’s going to be advocating for that from a local politician point-of-view, whether it’s provincial or otherwise.”

But a group of three Atlantic senators have indeed been floating a pitch for inter-provincial union over the last week.

P.E.I. Senator Mike Duffy, Nova Scotia Senator Stephen Greene and New Brunswick Senator John Wallace said they have been discussing the notion of Maritime union and decided to generate a public discussion on the topic. They suggest such a union could ease many of the economic difficulties facing all three Maritime provinces, with joint procurement and the pooling of resources.

P.E.I. Premier Robert Ghiz called the idea preposterous.

The CRA poll being released today shows Islanders agree with him. Only 28 per cent of Islanders expressed support for the idea.

Regionally, only 27 per cent of the 1,500 individuals polled said they were in favour of regional union.

But CRA did delve a little deeper into the issue. The firm also asked whether there would be support for an economic union, which would see the Atlantic provinces sharing the costs of services and eliminate inter-provincial trade barriers while still retaining political independence.

This idea garnered strong support by all provinces in the region.

In P.E.I., 65 per cent of those polled said they would support an economic union, echoing a similar level of support from all Atlantic provinces, averaging 68 per cent level of support.

“I think there’s a recognition that there are opportunities for cooperation that would help deliver services at a lower cost,” Mills explained.

“This poll shows that political union is a non-starter so there’s not going to be anybody who’s going to be advocating for that from a local politician point-of-view, whether it’s provincial or otherwise,” - Don Mills, chairman and CEO of Corporate Research Associates

He pointed to organizations like the Atlantic Lottery Corporation as an example of a successful regional venture.

“People recognize the need to be more economically aligned and take away some of the barriers that we have between the province, whether it’s trade or otherwise.”

But don’t confuse this support for working collaboratively with an appetite for amalgamation, Mills warned.

“There are some unique differences in each province and I think that’s at the core of why people don’t want to give up their provincial identities that they’ve developed over centuries.”

The poll results for Atlantic Canada overall considered accurate to within 1.9 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. The P.E.I. results are based on a sample of 300 Islanders and considered accurate to within plus or minus 5.6 percentage points.

 

twright@theguardian.pe.ca

Twitter.com/GuardianTeresa

 

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    Adam
    - December 7, 2012 at 20:52:05

    And.. where did all the glass bottle pop go? this place has went downhill since then.. i say we bring it back..

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    Henry Sow
    - December 4, 2012 at 23:39:19

    Why isn't the Guardian posting my comments? Did I say or do something to offend you.

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    unless
    - December 4, 2012 at 16:05:28

    I agree... Unless the feds dangle a big fat economic carrot in front of the politicians from these 3 provinces. Say, perhaps wiping out half the combined debt if NB, NS & PEI merge. That's the only way I see this one moving forward.

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    Pius from BC
    - December 4, 2012 at 14:38:09

    With PE's debt at $2 billion, NB's debt at $10 billion and NS's debt at $13 billion, the mass accumulated debt would be $25 billion. A Maritime Union would be under too heavy of a debt load to be successful.

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    C. Barker
    - December 4, 2012 at 12:32:04

    The original idea of the 1864 Charlottetown Conference was to discuss Maritime Union but got taken over by Quebec & Ontario in their push for Confederation, which PEI was not in favour of. Now, people act like a Maritime Union is an evil plot hatched in the mind of PM Harper. Isn't it ironic... dontcha think? I've wondered why the Maritimes haven't done this for about 45 years of my 54 years of life. Let's at least discuss the merits, instead of just irrational uneducated overreaction.

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    Remember?
    - December 4, 2012 at 11:10:52

    C'mon, folks. Surely everyone with a small bit of history remembers what happened that last time someone had a conference on Maritime union? The Upper Canadians crashed the party and suggested Confederation. And look where that got us. PS - @SG - Atlantic Canada has 4 provinces: NL, NS, PEI, NB. The Maritimes are made up of 3 provinces - NS, PEI, NB. Your remarks might carry more weight if you a) got your facts correct, and b) didn't use capitals willy nilly.

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    Gman
    - December 4, 2012 at 10:25:58

    I'll repeat what I've been saying for years, this isn't a Ontario-Quebec centrally run country anymore. It's a western-Canadian run country, they added a bunch of seats in House of Commons effectively negating any voices from Atlantic Canada. Three of our 4 seats are backbenchers and our 4 seats means nothing now with this increased western representation. PEI has no voice in parliament!! Our confederate nightmare has come true. We joined confederation with a promise of fair representation federally due to our small stature but that has effectively been negated with all these added western seats in parliament.

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      Garth Staples
      - December 4, 2012 at 17:27:47

      Ontario received more seats as well. So what is your point?

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    SG
    - December 4, 2012 at 10:15:07

    ULFRIC: I agree. I wonder when if Ever Federally or Provincially we'll have a Government that Actually Listens to and Works on Behal of "We" the People and what is Best for our Province and It's Residents ie: Taxpayers. Sometimes it seems Governments are only interested in the Tax $$$ "WE" the people can provide. I hope this CRA poll puts the idea of a Merger of Atlantic Canada's Three Provinces to BED for GOOD.

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    johnthames
    - December 4, 2012 at 10:03:52

    P.E.I. Premier Robert Ghiz called the idea preposterous...... The only thing preposterous here is Mr. Ghiz's reaction. he is entitled to his entitlements that's for sure... worst premier PEI ever had.

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    mej
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:59:31

    Hmm...wonder why 3 tory senators are trying to amalgamate the Atlantic provinces. Obviously they are not representing their provinces as they should be, otherwise they would know that none of the Atlantic provinces want this. But perhaps Mr. Harper wants this, and we all know what Harper is capable of!!

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      Garth Staples
      - December 4, 2012 at 10:46:46

      PM Harper is capable of good governance ; some other politicians should take note.

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    shortsighted
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:56:56

    When Mr Ghiz and the rest of the greed motivated politicians bankrupt this province, they'll be begging for a union.

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    John W.A.Curtis
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:54:49

    It will be the bond raters that determine when there is political union not Islanders. P.E.I. paid 150 million dollars in interest and amortization payments and we still owe 2.4 billion dollars. .Even with the HST, PEI can't balance its' budget.

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    Squirrel
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:54:22

    Heck, we can't even get Regional Government on PEI, which I might add Mr. Ghiz is preposterous !!!!!!!

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    Curious
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:52:55

    Senator Duffy should spend his (awake) time on Senate Reform if he is really concerned about saving money. Mike, go back to sleep and leave us on PEI alone....

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    Garth Staples
    - December 4, 2012 at 09:52:40

    Deja vu all over again! Readers will recall polls from the same company and same media outlet during the 2011 provincial election! How accurate were they? The Guardian of course has written the headline which again does not tell the whole story nor even come close to the concept of Union. If you believe the poll then I am very heartened by one aspect Maritime Economic Union. The poll of course was taken without the benefit of ANY RESPONSIBLE DISCOURSE among Maritimers thus it reflects an emotion not measured and thoughtful answers. It is like renaming a street. Everyone is 'against' but when new sidewalks and other safety measures are taken into account the answer would or could be some what different. The Guardian would do all Islanders a favour if it supported a comprehensive study which would then establish points of departure for discussion and RATIONAL debate. The latest I heard from an 'anti-unionist' is Union would be a step towards separation. How rational is that ? So Guardian join others by donating some resources for a study not another poll which inflames not informs.

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    Ulfric
    - December 4, 2012 at 08:52:11

    OK, they listen to a majority of 1500 people from 3 provinces but when the majority of 1500 people are against a $20 million highway realignment from one single province it is inadmissible....for the record, I'm not for the provinces amalgamating just pointing out the Gov't only hears the voices they want to hear.

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    Who will handle Mr Harper
    - December 4, 2012 at 08:22:04

    As there are no limits on Provinces borrowing, Ghiz and his team doubled the debt from 1 billion to 2 Billion. The first billion took over 100 years to rack up but Ghiz is much faster. Harper saw PEI betray all the provinces in a PNP money grab. Harper watched Ghiz divert 140 million dollars into fees for his hand picked intermediaries instead of recipient companies. PEI destroyed Canada's reputation with millions of Chinese..........Harper is going to drive this down the Maritimes and our self emasculated Premier and the professional set selling "investments" was the last disgrace for Harper from PEI. The debt is just beyond a manageable level, sorry. thanks eh?

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