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Group using robocalls in push for PC leadership review

PC members began getting telephone calls this week with a pre-recorded message from well-known party member Jason Lee. In the message, Lee outlines his group’s proposal that the party hold a leadership review in 2013.

PC members began getting telephone calls this week with a pre-recorded message from well-known party member Jason Lee. In the message, Lee outlines his group’s proposal that the party hold a leadership review in 2013.

Published on October 18, 2012
Published on October 18, 2012
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed
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A group of P.E.I. Tories pushing for a review of Olive Crane’s leadership of the Progresive Conservative party is now using robocalls to get its message out.

PC members began getting telephone calls this week with a pre-recorded message from well-known party member Jason Lee. In the message, Lee outlines his group’s proposal that the party hold a leadership review in 2013, and encourages members to attend the upcoming AGM to vote on this proposal.

Lee says his group is also making personal calls to members, but using the so-called ‘robocalls’ helps to get the word out to more members.

“It’s important that the party members know about this (proposed) constitutional amendment,” he said.

“We’re trying to give the members information so that they can make an informed decision, and it has to come from somewhere.”

But some party members are expressing concern over the fact this group appears to have access to the contact information of large numbers of party members.

One member, who spoke to The Guardian on condition of anonymity, said he viewed it as a breach of confidentiality.

The same group began circulating an email last week asking for support for its motion to amend the party constitution to allow for a leadership review next year.

The constitution currently states such a review would not be held until after the next election should the Tories fail to form government.

Lee says he and members of his group are simply using telephone numbers and email addresses of their own personal contacts within the party.

“I don’t have a copy of the party’s most current membership list,” Lee said.

“I do have a lot of friends and contacts within the PC party and I’m not alone, there’s a number of people working to see that this resolution is openly debated… it’s not just my contacts or my friends, we’ve compiled information from many people’s contact lists.”

The party has been abuzz since this group began to mobilize its effort to push for a review of Crane’s leadership last week.

Crane has said she’s not worried and would accept a review if the motion to call one, proposed in a motion by Lee and Keith Boswall, passes at the upcoming AGM.

Tory caucus members Colin LaVie, Hal Perry and Steven Myers all said they stand 100 per cent behind Crane as their leader.

LaVie and Perry both expressed very similar sentiments that they believe she “does politics differently” and that she is the reason they decided to run for office.

And all three said they believe the question the next leadership review was decided during the party’s last annual meeting, when the new constitution was unanimously accepted.

“I believe that our membership was clear last time that we can’t get distracted by this,” Perry said.

“We won’t get anywhere if we continue to rehash old decisions. It’s my opinion this was dealt with at the last AGM.”

Myers agreed.

“I feel like this issue was dealt with at the last AGM and I support our leader and I support the direction that we’re going,” he said.

But James Aylward was more cautious in his response to questions about the calls for a leadership review.

He said he believes Crane “is doing a wonderful job,” but unlike his caucus colleagues, would not say how he plans to vote on Lee and Boswall’s motion.

“I would not be prepared to say that because I wouldn’t want to sway the vote one way or the other. I’m staying completely neutral,” Aylward said.

“If the majority requests it than yes I think (a review) should be held and if they don’t then that’s great too. It’s a democratic process.”

When asked if he supports Olive Crane as leader, Aylward responded, ”Whoever our leader is, I support our leader.”

The PC AGM is Nov. 3 in Charlottetown.

 

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  • Username
    alfredd
    - October 20, 2012 at 17:44:17

    Ambitions run a-mock---- usually results in shooting yourself in the foot, --- does Robbie Lantz really want to become Tory leader so badly that he is willing to sabotage a Tory win in the next election , -- looks like it. Aiming for the top is all good and well, and he may have a bit more experience than Ghiz had, but it always looks and works best to 'grow' with the job. So call the hounds off Robbie - and you 'hounds' should stick the tail between your legs, you have behaved very poorly, -- and maybe the party don't need your meddling, -- maybe you should look for something else to do in your spare time.

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  • Username
    It's like this
    - October 19, 2012 at 21:17:00

    The conservatives want a review...why? Because they know with Olive they will loose. The liberals do NOT want the review...why? Because they know with Olive they will win.

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    In the Know
    - October 19, 2012 at 18:22:36

    we've been hearing a lot in the news about cyber-bullying latey... funny - I was thinking that Robocalls to an ill-gotten membership list is the definition of political cyber-bullying. wow - the folks promoting this 'coup' and trying to pass it off as democracy have totally blown their own political future... their biggest fears have come true - read the comments!! - folks have not forgotten the PNP debacle!!! - which was not about party privilege but 'old boys' network' privilege on both sides of the house. If Olive is prepared to clean it up - then she has my vote!

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  • Username
    Glad I am a Tory member
    - October 19, 2012 at 17:35:47

    There's no way someone gets to be party leader for 10 years without facing a leadership review. lol. Grow up Team Olive. You're so afraid of a simple vote that it's laughable how weak you look.

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    NDP Voter
    - October 19, 2012 at 16:48:12

    Disenchanted Red Tories, there is hope. Vote NDP next election and send a humbling message to both elitist parties. It's time to crush the backrooms

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  • Username
    WATCHING CLOSELY
    - October 19, 2012 at 16:32:31

    Well Justice Cheverie, are you following any of this, alot of PNP being talked about again, how long before you release your long overdue decision on releasing the nanes of people and businessess who got PNP units. Watch some of these back stabbers run then. Just follow the body language when these guys appear on T.V., tells it all. Olive Crane please continue with your fight to have this PNP issue upfront again, noone has forgotten, only the guilty ones are a liitle loose right now. This old boys club is on par with the one in Summerside City Council, there are only three standing after the last election, and the three remaining Mayor Stewart, Deputy Mayor MacDougall and Councillor Ron Dowling( PEI Sheriff) will soon be run out, not to soon for all the good people of Summerside. Can one just imagine trying to explain there actions as municipal leaders to your children, please.

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  • Username
    tory member because of Olive
    - October 19, 2012 at 15:59:57

    I became a member of this party because of Olive's values and committment to the Island. Only for his picture in this article I wouldn't have been able to pick Jason Lea out of a lineup or any of his people so how he managed to get my personal information baffles me. My family and I will be in attendance on Nov. 3rd to vote you boys out once and for all. You should spend more of your time making the Island better instead of beating a dead horse. Can't wait to meet you and your boys on Nov. 3rd

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  • Username
    Tory Voter Who Wants To Vote
    - October 19, 2012 at 14:42:21

    What's the issue here? Olive is dismally low in the polls. She says she doesn't trust them and thinks she's doing far better. Now she's being given the opportunity to empirically prove her own hypothesis. I haven't heard anything come out of her mouth to suggest that she's against that. So why are people freaking out? It's democracy. It's a vote. It's our legal right as Canadians. Stop the bickering and proceed with the leadership review.

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  • Username
    Slander is a dumb strategy, Olive
    - October 19, 2012 at 14:23:34

    Dear Opposition Office employees posting on this article: I know that neither Olive nor her staff spend a great deal of time trying to work with the PC Party and its members. So I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you didn't know this, but, and this is kind of awkward... umm.... Keith Boswall is one of the best lawyers in PEI. And you're blatantly slandering him on an internet forum. Now, I don't want to tell you how to conduct the taxpayers business that you're obviously not conducting today, but doesn't that seem a little bit stupid to you? Really? Top notch lawyer stands up for democratic rights and your response is to slander/libel him to Tignish and back. You should really evaluate your strategy on that one. Also your general outlook on democracy and its fundamental principles.

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    • Username
      A great team
      - October 19, 2012 at 19:08:29

      Olive and her dedicated young staff are the only thing keeping this party together. Thumbs up to all of you! We'll win this fight together and get rid of all those so-called Tories who gathered around Binns, Mella, Fogarty, Lee, Bagnall, Currie, Shea and too many others! The Day of Reckoning is Coming, and that day's name is Olive Crane!

    • Username
      Laughing at the opposition office
      - October 20, 2012 at 02:43:03

      hahahahahahahahah ooooh thank you for that laugh, "A great team" AKA "the opposition office." Get real. Olive's team isn't "young" they're inexperienced. She isn't the only thing keeping the party together, she's the thing that broke it apart. She destroyed the party youth wing so its hilarious and ironic that you would try to play the youth card. Olive doesn't play well with others. Every year at the PC AGM she's launching another coup against the party president. She can never get along with the people who volunteer for the party and she can't stand the folks who've been party supporters for more than a few years (ya know, the folks who know how things work). Just have the leadership review. We all know Olive is going to come up short and that's why she's trying to avoid it.

  • Username
    Always a Tory
    - October 19, 2012 at 13:58:00

    Has anyone asked the question why Jason Lee and Keith Boswell are doing this. It isn't about democracy. Lee recieved PNP for what and how much? How much did Boswell rack up? Are people naive enough to think that this is about democracy or leadership? Denis King, Jason Lee, and Keith Boswell are out for themselves. They want to buy a Premier and if the PC Party is foolish enough to allow that to happen then we have even bigger problems. Who's bankrolling this coup? My guess is Norman Clarey who's wife is a judge and is Murray Murphy's sister. Time for the wise people in the PC Party to wake up and get behind truth and honesty (Olive Crane) rather than lies and deception (Lee and Boswell).

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  • Username
    where?
    - October 19, 2012 at 13:26:06

    Where is the executive set on this matter?We know where Murray and Geoff Gerard Philp Ernie are at but what about the rest?

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  • Username
    where's the executive at
    - October 19, 2012 at 12:40:18

    My question is Where does the executive of the PC party on this matter?We know where the old guard is at but what about the new part of the executive thinking I wonder?

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  • Username
    Fed UP
    - October 19, 2012 at 12:30:04

    To Olive Crane: The one good outcome with all of this, and your harping about PNP….. hopefully you will uncover where Jason Lee and the back room boys placed all of their PNP units. They want transparency? let them come forth with the names the companies, if any?

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  • Username
    nothing else to do
    - October 19, 2012 at 12:10:34

    Obviously the opposition office staff have nothing to do today but to post on the Guardian website. Too bad there is no maturity in that office, instead of fighting this a real leader would embrace it. Olive was able to get the backroom to kill the idea of a review at the last AGM, her awful performance reflected in polling numbers are what is fueling the party dissatisfaction not Jason Lee.

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  • Username
    Old boys club
    - October 19, 2012 at 12:06:20

    I find it appalling that this group of self serving “backroom boys” ,who I would have to say are certainly not acting alone, are going to such lengths to get rid of their DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADER. I for one believe that Mrs. Crane should be allowed to stay on as leader, no if ands or buts about it. Keep up the great work Olive, the true base of your party supports you. The old Tory crew are just getting hungry for power again so they can get back to lining their pockets...SHAME!

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    • Username
      Olive Fan
      - October 19, 2012 at 14:18:38

      I agree. Olive was democratically elected for life. You can't take this away from her using the democratic process. It's hers forever.

    • Username
      Olive Fan too
      - November 4, 2012 at 01:36:15

      Maybe it is time that Islanders heaved the backroom boys and their mentality right off the Island. let them be sleazy somewheres else. The Island is constantly in the news, not good news, and this self-serving mentality, "do whatever it takes", show no ethical or moral conduct, has to go! Hoping Olive can now give those backstabbing immoral, undemocratic, underhanded hypocrits a huge boot. Olive could be the one to clean up the political sleaze that oozes throughout politics, now that would be welcoming and refreshing. What is more frightening would be the standings and professions these backroom backstabbers hold; abuse of power in politics and no doubt it does not stop there. If Islanders want to stop the immoral conduct which is giving all Islanders bad names, then lets set these guys as examples of how such disgusting behavior will no longer be tolerated here! Kudoos to Olive!

  • Username
    PNP
    - October 19, 2012 at 11:34:47

    Just a bunch of self serving people from Charlottetown who realize Olive wont let them fill their pockets...wish I had a tory membership to support you olive-I will vote for you come 2015......

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    • Username
      How much of an Olive fan can you be?
      - October 19, 2012 at 17:05:44

      Olive Crane has been party leader for 2 years and was the interim leader for 3 years before that yet you support her so much that you've never bought a membership anytime during the last five years she was in charge? They're not that expensive.

  • Username
    Uncle Ruckus
    - October 19, 2012 at 11:17:08

    not gonna matter, ghiz is still the king of pei

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    • Username
      Sylvia
      - October 19, 2012 at 12:14:55

      I would describe him as more like an emperor sitting on his gold-plated throne looking down his nose at us commoners and waiting for his gold-plated pension to kick in.

    • Username
      Uncle Ruckus
      - October 19, 2012 at 13:11:11

      get your head on right, ghiz isn't some dictator like castro. he's the best thing going and i don't understand why people don't get that

  • Username
    P.O.'d Party Member
    - October 19, 2012 at 11:00:07

    What is failing to get vocalized here is the blatant privacy breach and the overstepping which occurred on Monday. Jason Lee, Keith Boswall, Murray Murphy, Dennis King et all were that the AGM last year when the constitution was ammended and the new Leadership Review pushed to 2015. Now that they are at risk of being exposed for the PNP units they received, and are not able to walk all over the Leader Mrs. Crane as they once expected, they've taken it upon themselves to attempt to overule and overrun her office. If they had let her focus her time and energy on leading the party instead of having to defend herself at every turn, perhaps her numbers would have gone up. The worst part of it all is the bold face lies being strung in the media and to those unfortunate suckers receiving the emails and the calls. Lee did not get numbers and emails from people in the party, he is using the newest membership list. Boswall is also touting on his robo-call that the leadership review wouldn't be until 2017- wrong again sunshine. The people of the party are not necessarily against the leadership review- they are against the undemocratic way these bafoons are going about attempting to get it in play. Its time for them to grow up and realize the tit is finally dry for them. Ghiz seems to have a few udders free though, perhaps they should head in his direction.

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  • Username
    Quiet Observer
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:57:04

    Jason Lee, Kieth Boswell, Norman Clarey, Murray Murphy - those names are behind this. Those names also all mislead Jamie Ballem into entering the leadership race. Those members have all also benefited from the PNP program in one way or another. Do we now see why they want to get rid of her? Olive is trying to bring new, open, honest, accountable government to this province, and these old boys have too much to lose if she is successfull. Bring on the leadership review, let's show her Olive will win, and then let's get rid of the whole bunch of them so Olive can get on her with her work at redoing politics on PEI.

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    • Username
      Agree Quiet Observer
      - November 4, 2012 at 01:18:28

      Agreed! Olive is open, honest, transparent. These guys would never allow such ethical things to occur. What a mess our legal system must be in as well, when one sees such doings. We know some of Murphy's doings as it makes headlines and keeps putting the university down as a violator of human rights. What an embarassment ! I still do not understand why they keep him as a lawyer , the university should not be involved in such bad things but he just does not stop! It was disgusting to see Murphy on CBC pretending to promote Crane- guts no brains or ethics Congratulations Olive Crane!

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    Stan Hope ME
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:47:02

    Only makes sense that after you lose an election you review the leader. Not saying she will lose but it has to happen. Show the party your not afraid and vote for their motion. Sounds like Jimmy Jr. and Bozzy must have someone in the weeds ready to take te reins. It wont be James either. He' lucky he got elected the first time. Wait until he sees who they got ready to take a run an him in 2015. He'll do well to finish second and the NDP's spruce up their candidates.

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  • Username
    Julius
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:38:31

    ET,tu,Brute.

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  • Username
    Trough
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:28:23

    Could it be that Jason and bunch see the road to the though blocked when she wins the next election?.

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    • Username
      Remedial English
      - October 19, 2012 at 17:20:28

      Your cheap shots would be more effective if you could spell. They have this thing called spell check now. Olive's Chief of Staff used to be a teacher so you'd think they would check the grammar before hitting send.

  • Username
    Liberal Islander
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:11:17

    I'm gonna vote liberal because that is what I have always done. I don't care what the issues are because that is what I have always done. As long as the keep the liquor flowing I'm all good

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    mtothek
    - October 19, 2012 at 10:09:44

    Since Crane's party did not form the government after the election, it seems obvious that a leadership review is needed. The PC party should be encouraged to evaluate their leader to determine Crane's strengths and weaknesses and whether, or not, she is a good candidate for the next election. It's pretty crazy that people believe Crane should run again in 2015 without being vetted by the party. Remember, she lost the election in 2011 and the polls suggest most people don't support her. Crane should embrace a leadership review as it would demonstrate that she is confident in her record as leader. It seems to me she would rather run scared than face the party that she leads.

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  • Username
    Democracy and the Doughboys
    - October 19, 2012 at 09:41:37

    Riding on Daddy's coat- tails seems to be the chosen career of some of today's young people as they pop from obscurity into the political arena.. Admittedly it is a good time for these babes in the woods to take a plunge because if the most recent federal and provincial elections are any indication of the state of democracy in this country, the democracy yesterday's youth fought and died for is as withered as autumn leaves and just as dead. Premier Ghiz and his doughboys are living proof of that. And now, along comes another matinee idol who thinks himself a politician.

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    SG
    - October 19, 2012 at 09:40:30

    Personally I don't see how a Leadership review "After" the next Election would accomplish anything. What is the purpose of a Leadership Review after an Election? The Party wouldn't be able to make ANY changes until the following Election which would be four years away! If the same Candidates for the Liberal and Conservative parties vye for the Leadership next Election a NDP Government will definitely be the result. Given our present Political Landscape that will be just fine with me and I have Never voted NDP previously. Personally I don't see any difference between the Liberal and Conservative Parties except for their Party colors and therein lies the problem in my view. I Definitely will not vote Liberal or Conservative next Election if the same Party Leaders are running. And I won't Vote for any Party who is against enacting Recall Legislation as without it Islanders WILL NOT HAVE A VOICE on any issue after the Election.

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  • Username
    Boy
    - October 19, 2012 at 09:25:22

    Boy this is discouraging , they just gave her a vote of confidence & these back room backstabbers are at it again . They should have went with Binns & Currie because they will be the end of this party that finally has a honest leader that hasn't her own or friends pockets as the main thing . As far as Lee goes - just another Gizzy type on Daddy's coat tails - Alward , I can't believe you want the leadership this bad to be such a sleeze . You are not the kind that should be in this party that Olive is trying to shape as the first party in a long time that is honest & truthful . This party if these sleezes are removed is our only chance to save our Island . Olive CLEAN HOUSE We don't need another LIBERAL type party on this Island . Continue building a true party that works for the people .

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    mej
    - October 19, 2012 at 09:23:25

    well at least they want a fair vote. If all the members show up and vote to keep Olive in then they have their answer. But if not many show up to vote, then there will likely be a complaint that "no one knew this amendment was on the agenda" Cant have it both ways.

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    Joe Martell
    - October 19, 2012 at 09:01:26

    NOTE TO JASON LEE: I am not your friend. I am not a friend of Mr. Boswall either. So how is it that these two 'Dalton Camps' have both the email address and telephone number that I used on my MEMBERSHIP FORM? I will be there November 3rd to cast my vote on this motion and I can guarantee that 'SpringparkLee' and his backroom sidekick won't be getting my support.

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      hmatt
      - October 19, 2012 at 10:57:45

      Joe Martell, I was not going to go, but since your so hateful, I will now attend, simply to cancel your vote.

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      HMATTL
      - October 19, 2012 at 11:25:09

      And what good work , may you be referring to? She is not polling numbers, she is not getting support from Islanders, that will translate into votes. Can you not see that? You want the Tories to be in Opposition again, because Olive to to stubborn to do the right thing.

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    James Alyward
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:54:54

    Has just proven that he is a greasy back room boy....do the right thing for the Island James-not for your back room boys....shame on you

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  • Username
    Its Obvious
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:54:45

    Well, how obvious can this be. The poor track record of the Ghiz Goverbment will undoubtedly result in the dessimation of the Provincial Liberal Party at the next election. Those "staunch" conservatives who have been hiding in the background for the past few years now want to come out of the woodwork and replace the person who has kept them afloat during the lean years. If this happens then the "fat" years for the select conservative few will be back.

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    Disgruntled PC Member
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:53:16

    So Lee said "he and members of his group are simply using telephone numbers and email addresses of their own personal contacts within the party." I got a call last night and I wouldn't know Jason Lee if I tripped over him. This is getting intense. I'm so disgusted with this party right now; they either deliver over-the-top or rhetoric or sit on their hands and let Ghiz destroy himself. I'm going to be returning my membership card. There are other alternatives besides the Liberals and PCs. PEI needs real political change.

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    Sylvia
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:45:24

    I received one of those recorded calls and it was from Keith Boswall. Because of physical disabilities I'm not able to go to meetings. I support Olive and would never support the son of another former premier. One is enough. I don't like the way this is being done and if Jason Lee is picked as leader, I'll be cancelling my membership. If I do cancel, I'll be deciding between NDP or Green Party. I sure wouldn't join liberals if they were the only game in town.

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    Nick O'Coin
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:30:52

    This seems like a little issue being blown out of proportion. Obviously Olive Crane's leadership is being talked about. I hear that every day at the coffee shop. Let's see what the majority of PCs want and move on. Olive or another leader will be better then the bunch we have now. At least these Tories are willing to talk about their issues in the open and not hide behind closed doors. If you want to talk about back rooms, talk about the Premiers closed circle of unelected friends who decide how my tax dollars are going to line their pockets.

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    OH
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:21:25

    While not holding any parties membership, I do give salutes to Olive Crane She comes off as a strong and capable woman and appears to have the PEI publics good in her sights. I will give her that. Some people still cannot seem to get their heads around a strong woman holding a strong position.

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    OPEN MINDED
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:06:34

    Liberal for Life: Closed Minded Indeed! Conservative Lee and Boswell: Conservatives for Life! Closed Minded As Well! Harper: Enough said! Justin Trudeau another Ghiz! What's left? That's right! Just listen to the people and you will see a real change in the making! Mike Redmond, you will get this ground swell and there will be a few heads turned. Bring on the credible candidates like we have seen in the past: Dodi Crane, Dr. Herb; and Bryne. Lot's of open minded Liberals and Conservatives will be following you, too.

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    Facades of Smiles
    - October 19, 2012 at 08:04:46

    It certainly has the appearance of "the back room boys" attempting to implement a stooge just in case. Covering both sides if you will. This would mean that Olive is doing something right. Indeed the true colors of those involved will become obvious to those who are watching.

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    James and Jason
    - October 19, 2012 at 07:58:09

    Its sad how you guys are ripping this party apart at the seems-Robo Calls? Obviously using voters list to call people that you had someone steal from the inside...James now cant be trusted by Olive-when Olive forms the government James will be sitting in the nose bleed section-no wheres near cabinet!

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  • Username
    Thank you Jason
    - October 19, 2012 at 07:01:44

    This is an important debate for the PC party to have, most just want to gossip about it, Thank you Jason for putting this on the agenda so the members can actually discuss it. This is a motion to allow a leadership review take place, those who think this is an attack on the current leader are wrong, Pauline Marois faced a leadership review in April, 6 months before becoming premier of Quebec. John Ham faced a leadership review within the year of becoming premier of Nova Scotia, all the provincial leaders on Ontario faced a review after the last general election including the premier. Why the current PC leader on PEI is against this just doesn't make sense, it is a normal part of the political process.

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      islandwoman
      - October 19, 2012 at 10:24:04

      She's not against it. You and your pals should stop making things up.

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      ED GALLANT
      - October 19, 2012 at 22:15:05

      After the Ham review in Nova Scotia, the NDP formed the next government! Maybe that bodes for the NDP here, now that they have a new leader in place.

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    Chester L
    - October 19, 2012 at 06:42:51

    The View From Martinvale..........from a current Conservative party member, 1. The Consititution was previously amended..........2015 for Leadership review 2. If such as the current motion ( sent to my email address, Jason Lee and Kieth Boswall ) for this Nov AGM review has not been sanctioned by proper protocal ie from our PC Leader Olive Crane or her Elected caucus then is should be be dismissed IMMEDIATELY. 3. The action taken by these two party members, now aired in the public domain is now a divisive element within our Party....sides will be taken, the current Liberal party and NDP will gain using "the weak distructive reasoning" employed by these two individuals who do not speak for me or the other " majority of PEI PC Party members. 4. Most blantant example of " Backs to the wall boys tactic " this smacks of " self preservation on a grand scale of " Elected Wannabes " or privleged back room boys with " 0 Regard for the Grassroots voters " 5. The call to have this " Amendment " needs to be abolished immediately and if such a requirement is put forth by democratic input from all PC members in PEI and is done by The Leader , her sitting MLa's, the Executive, BEFORE and NOT AFTER................. 6. Our PC Party in PEI is now at the lowest point possible. I will not support this non democratic process in its current form or in the divisive manner it was announced................I will not attend this event... 7. Their is much more to be organized and cleaned up and it begins at the Executive level and not at the level of those duly elected by voters. The Tail is wagging the dog here and their is absolutely no " Clear chain of command " 8. If the Leadership review were to be held tomorrow and the same Executive board is in place then NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN OUR PARTY........SAD INDEED.

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    Crane's Resignation NOW
    - October 19, 2012 at 03:04:49

    I don't see what the issue is.... party leaders always resign after a defeat like Crane's in 2011... she didn't resign... her poll numbers are terrible and getting worse... and Robert Ghiz is the worst premier in PEI history. He should be easily kicked in the pants and dragged from office. Yet Crane is offering him another undeserved term in office to bankrupt the government. Why are you running scared of Jason Lee? Sending your attack dogs out here to criticize him and speculate as to how he knew people's email addresses is ridiculous, childish, conspiratorial, and smells of weak incompetence. I think your days are numbered and you know it, Crane. Show up to the AGM with your resignation in hand. Do the responsible thing.

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    Gladys Jenkins
    - October 19, 2012 at 03:00:49

    I think that it says quite a bit about Olive Crane and her supporters that they're afraid to participate in an open, free democratic review. I mean, no politician should be afraid of the democratic process. If Crane is so determined to avoid the mini democracy of her own party, why should Tories trust her to go boldly and successfully into the larger democratic realm of our whole province? This is something that can actually be a very positive experience for Crane's leadership. It's fair, it's free, it's open, and PEI deserves better than Robert Ghiz. So pull it together and let's see if Crane truly has support of the PC Party or if all of the polls and friendly chit-chats are true.

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      Islandwoman
      - October 19, 2012 at 10:20:23

      Gladys, I think it says quite a bit about you that you have totally misrepresented Olive Crane in your comment so you could attack her with BS. If you could read the article you would see that Olive Crane is not afraid at all and not trying to avoid anything.

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      Gladys
      - October 19, 2012 at 17:18:54

      This is what's wrong with Olive Crane, I think. Her supporters are very vulgar, very rude, and they are fanatical when it comes to attacking other Tories but offer nothing against Robert Ghiz. If Olive Crane has nothing against this leadership review then I wonder why you and your fellow Opposition Office employees are here arguing against the idea. If she isn't against it, why are her minions?

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    don
    - October 19, 2012 at 02:01:23

    maybe ghizzy is behind this. this can kill any chance of the PC'S leading the island and opening the PNP books. but i wonder how many of the back room back stabbers got PNP money? and lee your farther was no good as a leader and i know i sure would not vote for you if you were the only one running.

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    Joe Blow
    - October 19, 2012 at 00:19:37

    I don't like the sounds of this Lee guy at all!! I don't care if his Daddy was a great premier of PEI once before, Robert Ghiz's Daddy was too and look at the huge mess he has made of PEI....sounds like Lee wants his chance to suck from the government teat too!!! His quote “I do have a lot of friends and contacts within the PC party" sounds a lot like a list of people who will benefit financially IF he was to become leader and win the election.....just like Ghiz has done with his family and friends stealing Tax money to make themselves rich. I respect all that Olive Crane has done....she is fighting a good fight for the PEOPLE of this great province and thats all I want from government....that they listen to the people and fight tooth and nail for democracy. Lee using Robocalls and talking about his friends within the PC Party sounds too Robert Ghizzy to me!!

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    will be there
    - October 19, 2012 at 00:07:16

    I will be there on Nov. 3rd to support Olive. My husband will also be coming with me this time to sign up and vote for Olive!!!!!!The gall of some people to even suggest such an idea. Keep up the good work,Olive!!!!!!

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      Terry
      - October 19, 2012 at 02:49:43

      You can't sign up new members at the AGM and vote. C'mon, you Opposition Office employees should know that.

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    One has to ask
    - October 19, 2012 at 00:03:05

    Why is Olive Crane so afraid to let the membership of the party she leads have an open and frank conversation about a measure she herself supports and was approved by the membership?

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      maxine maxcennan
      - October 19, 2012 at 09:20:52

      Read the article again olive is comfortable with whatever happens review or no review.Frankly I am ticked off...Olive won her leadership rights at the convention...fair and square ...and she has done all the work to get this party to where it stands today (let's not forget the numbers in the election people)...do we really want someone to jump in (from the old boys club) be a yes man ruin all that Olive has done.Olive is hard working, honest and full of integretaty ...let's try that for a change

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    Liberal for life
    - October 18, 2012 at 23:31:51

    So who took the membership list out of the office? James? Once a rat always a rat.......

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    As a member I find this Lee punk pathetic
    - October 18, 2012 at 23:27:47

    I take great offence to having been e mailed and asked to partake in this Mutiny. Why did the party allow this moron access to my e mail account. What is with these famous Sons, the great toothy smiles and the absolute absence of ideas or any semblance of leadership. Lee can take a leap off the bridge as I told him in my response to his pathetic half baked idea. Lee should be thrown out of party would have more votes than his proposal. Thats democracy, vote out the idiots.

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      Mimi Clarke
      - October 19, 2012 at 02:54:25

      You know, as a PC Party member who was sitting on the fence on this issue, I have to say that comments like this are really making me sick. Obviously you're a Team Olive supporter. The way you are treating someone who is voicing an opinion - simply that, an opinion - is appalling and outrageous. Since you are the type of person that Olive has attracted and kept close: I'm voting for the leadership review. I don't think someone should be able to stick around for 10 years and inspire lunacy like this. Shame on you and be more mature.

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    Our Leader
    - October 18, 2012 at 23:25:04

    Sounds like a certain Stratford-Kinlock MLA is preparing for a run at his Leader. Hopefully this will be the end of the "Progressive" Conservatives, because if this group of dimwits get their way it will be about as "progressive" as the Harper majority. Alyward is sounding more and more like a one term wonder.

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    Stratford Resident
    - October 18, 2012 at 23:25:04

    To me James Alyward just showed his true colours...he's nothing more than a "yes" man to the back room boys of Charlottetown....James I didnt vote for you to be a puppet-say whats on your mind.....Mike Redmond I see a job opening for you!

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