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When police move in depends on sacred fire

The landscape near Churchill is looking more like a highway as crews continue to cut trees and carve a road. The protest continues over the highway realignment. Guardian photo by Brian McInnis

The landscape near Churchill is looking more like a highway as crews continue to cut trees and carve a road. The protest continues over the highway realignment.

Published on October 11, 2012
Published on October 11, 2012
Brian McInnis  RSS Feed
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RCMP , Grand Council , Prince Edward Island

The RCMP have assured Plan B protesters that they will not attempt to evict them from the hemlock grove until the sacred fire at the camp is extinguished in traditional Mi’kmaq fashion.

One of the protesters, Keith Kennedy, said during an interview in the grove Thursday that he and several other protesters met with RCMP officers and were told that until John Joe Sark has contacted the police and discussed ways to extinguish the fire they will not move on the campers. Kennedy was not prepared to say when the fire might be extinguished.

 Sark, Keptin of the Mi’kmaq Grand Council,  lit the sacred fire at the beginning of the protest and it has been kept burning ever since. Mi’kmaq culture dictates that the fire must be kept burning and to that end campers have been certain it never goes out. The fire is central to camp life and there is always a ready supply of wood and people to keep it burning.

David Weale, author and historian, is watching the events unfold and like many protesters says this is about a lot more than the environment.

“This project (the highway realignment) is perhaps the most absurd undertaking in my lifetime on Prince Edward Island,” he said in an interview Thursday while standing near the sacred fire. “And the most poorly handled,” he quickly added.

Weale feels there is no good rationale for the project and everybody knows it. In other words the emperor has no clothes, he said.

“The reasons put forward have no substance whatever…the reasons against it have all kinds of substance and yet it goes ahead as if it was the other way around.”

Weale said he thinks the primary issues for the people in the protest is the environment, “but there is a secondary issue and it may even be the primary issue and that is the disgust of Islanders with how they have been treated, demeaned really, and not been treated with respect…I can’t remember any single politician, any minister whoever acknowledged that these people had anything to say of importance.”

Weale said the term “these people” referred to the protesters, but Islanders in general have gone on record from one end of the province to the other through letters to the editor as being against the highway realignment...”I mean I have been watching the political scene on P.E.I for almost 50 years and I have never seen that kind of sustained anger and interest in an issue and still no response (from government). It is as though ‘we don’t care what you say, it doesn’t matter what you say because this thing is going ahead’ well, that is a slap in the face.”

That “slap in the face” is what Weale sees as the secondary issue or even primary issue for Islanders’ anger.

"Slap in the face" fuelling Islanders' anger - David Weale

Weale was front and centre in the debate over the Confederation Bridge, but he could see reason in both sides of the issue. With the highway realignment he is at a loss to see any reason in the decision.

“I don’t understand anything about this project. Nothing that they (the government) says makes any sense…it is smoke and mirrors.”

Weale said when it is all said and done the issue will “stick (to the Liberals) for sure and it will not be forgotten.”

But it may even go deeper than that, he said. In fact, this issue is going to affect the way islanders think of politics in general “because what I hear again and again is ‘well it really doesn’t matter because these kinds of things would happen with either of the two old parties’ and I think that is the ground shift in Island politics right now.”

He said the more Islanders he speaks with the more he hears that people are fed up with “patronage based” Island politics.

There is a huge cynicism especially among young people and he sees that they have no interest in traditional politics. He feels they see it as a dead end and so because of this he anticipates a surge in the third or fourth parties in the next election.

 

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    jimmy buffet
    - October 14, 2012 at 12:00:36

    This highway realignment does not effect enough people to cause *ground shift in politics*.However...Ghiz has catered to the well-heeled and totally forgotten the grass roots base of the party.The rich only have one vote same as the rest of us.You forgot your people.

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    Voting Orange
    - October 13, 2012 at 20:35:45

    I want a government that respects it's constituents. They work for us not the other way around. I'm voting NDP next election. Maybe they'll respect our opinions.

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    Lillian
    - October 13, 2012 at 17:59:45

    The same people who are against this protest are the same ones that protest every time gas prices rise or taxes or groceries rise but I guess those protests are Give the 600 acres that Ghiz said on TV were unprotected to the Island Nature trust so they can preserve it at least then it would be out of the hands of politicians But Mr Ghiz all the land was protected by tax payers and landowners before this Plan B was conger-ed up in the small liberal brains. To those that are saying"stop demonizing Ghiz" i say he did that to himself There will be no more smile after the election in 2015. Bye bye Robbie Boy You should have listened to the voting public or at least given them their say. Thank you David Weale anyone who has read any of your publications know you are for the people

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    Keep the Fire Burning
    - October 12, 2012 at 16:56:13

    Mr. Weale has encapsulated the feelings expressed by many Islanders, disgust and frustration with a government that is led with arrogance. It is quite unfortunate.

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    june gillis
    - October 12, 2012 at 15:51:01

    proposal why not scrap plan b and go to plan c "just say you were wrong and scrap plan b. no more libral gov for me . we know what gov can do without permission,they turned our lane into a private road and we had to spend our savings getting it back so you see if you persevere you can win . keep the fire burning.

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    Not looking for radicalism
    - October 12, 2012 at 15:00:14

    This is unfortunate. There are many Islanders, like me, who are silently supporting the protesters in their cause. I hate the thoughts of what this is doing to the environment unnecessarily. I hate how it was rammed down our throats. I hate how we are spending money we can't afford when our health care is in such dire straits! I hate the arrogance shown by this government. Having said all that, I don't condone this action by the protesters. Do not put yourself or others in harm's way. Don't go over the fence. Don't break the law. Protest peacefully and God love you for doing so. You'll earn the respect of more Islanders that way. I know you are mad. I am too. But we have to be realistic. You are making your point by being there.

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    NBer
    - October 12, 2012 at 14:39:31

    Protesters: It looks like this is a battle that will be lost. Hopefully Islanders will remember this and all the other fiascos and corruption associated with Ghiz and his cronies when they vote next time around. Look what NB did with Shuan Graham last election. Finished and now unheard of. Good riddance.

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    Ulfric
    - October 12, 2012 at 13:27:05

    All this wood will get sold off island and never come back. Who's pocket does that money go in? Also, Native lumber is the way to go. Keep it on the island. Native Hemlock is self preserving and can withstand our climate with ease. I at least expect to see it put to good use on the island. Fire up a mill, create some jobs for the cold winter months when everywhere else is shut down. That should have been an initiative of this project.

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    Hold Fast
    - October 12, 2012 at 13:14:34

    I cannot believe how stubborn, stupid and ignorant politics has become on this Island. Partisan bickering without thought or conscience and patronage payouts so obvious it's insulting. No wonder these people who understand the broad issues around Plan B are standing with the hemlocks. There's more intelligent discussion going on in that stand of trees than there has been in any government office for many decades. And I thank these courageous souls for telling these corrupt and ugly beings we see them.

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      Stalwart
      - October 14, 2012 at 09:13:34

      Nicely said Hold Fast - poetically describes the truth!

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    june
    - October 12, 2012 at 13:11:43

    I AM SADDENED BY THE EVENTS OF PLAN B ,I AM ASHAMED TO SAY I HAD A HAND IN ELECTING THE LIBERAL GOV. ON PEI. I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN WHO LIVE IN BONSHAW AND THEY ARE ALSO SADDENED BY THE EVENTS OF PLAN B.THE GOV. SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES LINING THE POCKETS OF THEIR FRIENDS AND DISTROYING BEAUTIFUL FORESTS. KEEP THE FIRE BURNING

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    Frankie
    - October 12, 2012 at 12:29:15

    Now I have a question for all of you who are complaining about the money the government is spending on this and that they didn't ask Islanders what they thought about redoing this road... where were you all when they redid the route 2 through Hunter River. That road has seen major changes at least 3 times in the past 40 years (twice in recent memory). They have sidewalks now!! in Hunter River...what's the population there, 300!! But you never protested that road or the millions spent on it. I'm pretty sure those pretty lights they put up cost a ton of money. As for the environment, I"m sure lots of run off went into the river there...why didn't you protest that! And for those of you who are screaming for Liberal blood...go read the story about Kevin MacAdam... I'm not saying the Liberal Government is right spending all this money but all governments spend money on stuff they shouldn't or on people they shouldn't, just ask the Irving family how much they've been given. I have an idea for all those protesters, if you don't like what the government is going, why not run in the next election, use it as your platform...see how many of you get elected....oh and I hope you all have a great weekend!

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    Piet Hein
    - October 12, 2012 at 11:57:15

    By Stander, citing that you have to go to work is a flimsy excuse for not going to visit the campsite. Many people out there work, but go on lunch time, after work or on the weekends. No, I think you are afraid go out there because you may learn something of the real issues and you may have to rethink your ideas about the protest.

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    lyle grower
    - October 12, 2012 at 11:46:57

    As many have alluded to, - this it much more than the environment and the huge amount of taxmoney, -- it is indeed about democracy and the obligation that goes with being elected, namely, listening and consulting with the electorate. This plan B objection, as mentioned by many, although the most important, is about much more than plan B, it is about all the waste and ill thought out steps taken by Ghiz and his sheep. People that cruzify the protesters should realize they are victims of these other poor decisions and that they are seeing their taxmoney wasted too.. Many mentioned they go to work etc. well, think about it, -- are you working so your taxmoney can be wasted or given away to the politicians and their friends, -- are you that dull that you can't see that, --- look hard and join us so we all can stand together against waste and patronage.

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    Andrew
    - October 12, 2012 at 10:46:31

    So the fire can't be put out because it was started by a native elder. Why is that sacred to the RCMP, they started the fire to stall the project. I find it laughable that they won't put out a fire because the person who started it is a native elder. I know history, I'm an anthropologist, and its all done this way because our culture is hell bent on not being seen as ethnocentric.

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      Respect for RCMP
      - October 12, 2012 at 11:26:52

      No, it's not that the fire can't be put out, the fire shouldn't be put out - there's a difference. Can shouldn't determine ought; Plan B can be built, it ought not to be built. For my part, the fire represents so much more than burning wood, just like Plan B represents more than a useless road. I can live with a useless road - even boondoggling. What I can't live with is disrespect of the environment, disrespect for liberal (not Liberal) principles, and disrespect of our responsibility for our youth. My respect for the RCMP just went up ten-fold . . . and I've always respected the RCMP.

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      Hold Fast
      - October 13, 2012 at 19:35:04

      Andrew - You and your prejudices are safe once again. The RCMP were just saying that so the protesters would relax and leave the camp for showers and whatnot. Then 20 officers dragged out the 4 women who remained there. Oh, and one of the officers threw one of the sacred logs into the water so your contempt for traditions was expressed. I hope you feel better now.

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    Hold The Press
    - October 12, 2012 at 10:14:55

    Hold The Pressl I think I've just been knocked off the fence! Isn't Professor David Weale the person who was known as giving almost everything a passing grade? Holy cow, if he's known as a soft touch when it comes to evaluating projects, what does that say about his condemnation of Plan B? I think when respected Island teachers like Weale say such things about Plan B, it may be time to somehow join the protest. Either that, or start getting rid of respected Island teachers. Which, it appears, this government would rather.

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    islander
    - October 12, 2012 at 10:13:21

    so do the protesters realize that they are burning trees to keep their fire going or is that ok because its them burning the wood. get over yourselves and for deeply concerned you should be deeply concerned because as a parent you shouldn't be endangering your children too bad child protection don't take a visit out there or better yet a visit to your house considering what you put your children through. and for the mother holding her child over the fence in front on heavy machinery you shouldn't even be allowed near your kids again .

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      Amalia
      - October 12, 2012 at 11:16:05

      Re: Islander I don't know anything about the mother holding her child over the fence so I cannot comment on that...however, I do know that we are burning a small amount of trees to keep this fire burning compared to what we will be destroyed. Also, we are not burning Heritage Trees (that is what the Hemlocks are). They are trees that are closed to being wiped out on PEI and this is one of the few areas of PEI that has NEVER been plowed. It was clearcut a very long time ago, but never plowed. Thus, this in one of the few areas on the Island remaining that has the original soil from the time PEI was created. That is a part of why we're protesting. Another reason (not mentioned in the article) is that this is unnecessary change. As someone said below, lower the speed and that would increase safety. Also, putting up guardrails and cutting down a few trees near the edge of the road to increase visibility (aka line of sight) around the curves would be a huge impact on how safe that section of road was.

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      Ulfric
      - October 12, 2012 at 11:32:32

      Oh my Islander, are you that thick in the head? They are not burning the virgin forest. They can burn all day off leftover brush and dead falls.

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    ALSO DEEPLY CONCERNED
    - October 12, 2012 at 09:33:15

    how about just reducing the speed limit along that stretch of road instead of spending millions of dollars unnecessarily.

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    It is about more than trees
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:54:29

    If we had a government who showed a little bit of compassion, who even pretended to listen to the taxpayers, who showed a little respect, and who were the "transparent" government that they promised, we may have trusted them when they said that was a good idea. However, they have done nothing but let Islanders down and act in a very condescending way. Most of the MLA's and the premier will have good pensions at the end of this term. I bet many will not even seek re-election so they don't care. Their pockets have been lined and they don't have to worry about getting voted in again. I am so sick of the arrogance of our provincial government and our federal government, especially since both promised that things would be different. So glad to say that I did not vote for either party!

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    Shawn Worth
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:49:31

    It look's to me like child endangerment. The kids are to close to that machine, no matter what side of fence the the kids are on.What kind of father or mother would willing put their children in danger. That is what l see in one of those picture's. Child Service's should be called..

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    woodsman
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:37:10

    Who thought up this statement for the RCMP....so now they're holding up the project in that area......what a joke!!!

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      RCMP know people and roads - listen.
      - October 12, 2012 at 10:26:36

      The RCMP are educated intelligent people; they know that the protest is really about more than a road. Also, they know Island roads and what causes accidents. To how many accidents has Yeo or Vessey responded? The RCMP have supported everything from helmets to fighting drugs in schools - they publicly support projects that are worthy of supporting. If 10% of the cost of construction was spent on more rigorous policing in that area, the "safety" issue would be addressed. Arrests for the real causes of accidents - not obeying traffic controls, speeding, using cell phones, impaired driving, etc. - would then help all Islanders feel safer on all Island roads.

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    Rob
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:32:19

    The highway has been there since 1952. I have an idea, lets delay construction until AFTER the next election. Make this issue a platform issue. If the gov't is re-elected, then they will have a mandate to go ahead. Unfortunate, but yes they have the democratic authourity to proceed. Predictions about the liberals never being re-elected will be a mute point if the area has already been destroyed. This project should only go ahead with the explicit blessing of the majority of Islanders.

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    Vessey's Frankenstein?
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:21:19

    Weale is right on, there is a huge cynicism among most young people. The youth, indeed all Islanders, have been clearly taught that authentic input is not wanted and engagement is futile. However, since despots benefit this cynicism, I wonder if this attitude is fostered by design? It's been said that we don't inherit the environment from our ancestors, but that we borrow it from our children. Much the same can be said about democracy; Plan B is a political, social, ecological, economic, aesthetic, disaster. And yet the ludicrous thing is that the government forges on with their position. Clearly the government deows not control Plan B, it's Plan B that is controlling the government. Vessey's Frankenstein?

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    What's all the fuss about?
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:14:00

    Seriously people! You are protesting this because of a few treees and the fact that the government is doing this illegally. Well I have news for you.........the roads you drive and the house you live in at one time or another was part of a forest!! As for the government.....how many of you protesting checked the liberal box in the last election? Give me break and get a life!!

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      Ulfric
      - October 12, 2012 at 13:23:00

      "the roads you drive and the house you live in at one time or another was part of a forest!!" Virgin trees, very few are left. If we went by your logic, there would be no trees anywhere. People need places to live. Roads to drive on. This highway is not needed. I've seen worse highways in the Prairies for crying out loud. And who cares what box was checked? Not me. All you have to do is check one and you have a say. For those who voted Liberal and are opposed to this, they have the strongest say. They did not vote for this pocket lining project. If you were smart, you'd be questioning how many have something to say and didn't vote at all. Or do you fall under that category?

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      That Guy From PEI
      - October 13, 2012 at 19:58:35

      People are losing their lands and homes....in a the Information Age that we are in, Ignorance is a choice!!! Get informed before silly narrow-minded comments are made! Go Protesters!!!!!

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    enough is enough
    - October 12, 2012 at 08:03:40

    Keep up the good work! If it takes a sacred fire to keep the police away, then so be it. This is so much bigger than a road people don't want or need, this is about a government who does NOT represent the people and their arrogance is only matched by the size of their wallets! I, and many others, are counting the days until our next election. The two old parties and their patronage will be gone. It's a new day on PEI and some fresh blood is needed to repair all the damage that has been done. Ghiz, you might want to make that new road run right to the Confederation Bridge...because when all this is over, we are sending you packing.

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    steve
    - October 12, 2012 at 07:55:06

    I have a hard time understanding how someone would put a "sacred fire" in harms way.

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    Magic fire extinguisher
    - October 12, 2012 at 07:51:19

    WOW now they have come up with a magic campfire. Whats next . I propose that we all start an EI claim like most of the protesters,get some weed and sit in the woods smoking with johnston and weale at least until our EI claims or welfare run out. Then the RCMP can use my magic fire extinguisher and we can all go home. Really a magic campfire.

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      That Guy From PEI
      - October 13, 2012 at 20:02:33

      You're level of ignorance doesn't surprise me. It most likely took you many hours to write your silly comment. You need a history lesson in the worst way. I feel bad for you... We ALL live on the land of the Mi'Kmaq people. It is ther land and always was...you could learn a thing or two...or 65 from an elder

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    Joe Citizen
    - October 12, 2012 at 07:34:55

    These people give me the s#@$%!

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    Chester L
    - October 12, 2012 at 07:14:11

    The View From Here.:) 1. This Plan B scenario is less about the project and its costs as about the fact that Government in Power cannot reallize that perhaps they made a mistake, and due to this have no knowledge or backbone to say " We were wrong " and stop the foolishness a move on with the real isssues facing average islanders, Jobs, Economic future, taxes and Equal and Fair representation in our democracy......By The People, OF The People, For The People 2. It less about local politics and more about the need for change in PEI's political system and finding a new way to run our democracy with out blatant and overt patronage..This is beyond Liberal , Tory, Green or NDP, is about tearing down the " Old backroom Regeime mentality " that purposely foregets and neglects to listen to those concerns from the voters who gave them the Elected status............District by District this is the case........Our youth and new voters must now be coached to enter the political scene with new and a changed way to doing " The Business of Elected Officals and paid beaucrecats.......we need to be looking at " Recall Legislation " that would throw out those in power who refuse to listen to reason and only look for their " self sustained livilehood " first and our concerns secondary, if in fact that even happens............This issue of Plan B is just a " flicker of a conflgration " that could ensue if average Islanders start saying to our local MLA's and from District leadership " WE HAVE HD ENOUGH " ....it is coming, watch it build over the next 3 years.........It is not about the current political Parties it is about " Listening to common folks " and taking action on that basis............Which ever Party grabs this and makes it happen then watch the difference.........Ask this question ......What does the PEI Liberal Party stand for ? What does the PEI Conservation Party stand for ?..What does the PEI NDP Party stand for?.....Get this on paper, clear out the " Chaff from the Wheat" then decide...........think about it......enough said!

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    Upperdunker
    - October 12, 2012 at 07:10:16

    It's a cartoon world here on PEI and the it's very clear who the good guys are and who the the bad guys are. Remember The Raccoons tv show of the late 90's? Well, Robert Ghiz and Robert Vessey even look a little like Cyril Sneer, the greedy aardvark out to destroy the forest. The raccoons used friendship and teamwork to stop the needless destruction, but sadly the forces of patronage and greed are now winning in PEI.

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    real canadian
    - October 12, 2012 at 06:55:27

    People yuo voted him in you know the guy in the center of PNP scandal who wouldnt divilge where the money went and alco the guy who said no HST for PEI .

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    spudnik
    - October 12, 2012 at 06:07:35

    This is the same arrogance as refusing to open the books on PNP over "privacy" while leaking the email to discredit the whistleblowers. Reelecting the Liberal Government despite that gave them permission to be contemptuous and dismissive of public concerns. That display of arrogant unaccountability made me switch my planned vote from Liberal to Conservative despite the incredibly lame campaign they ran, although I can understand a person unable to bring themself to do that. But the implied suggestion that it's time for the NDP forgets that he NDP too far left for many Islanders.

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    john q public
    - October 12, 2012 at 05:40:12

    Robert Ghiz and the people behind him in the Liberal Party of PEI are dead in the water. They are dead men/women walking. The next election will be like New Brunswick in 1987, only it will be any other party except Ghiz's that wins. I can't wait to see his smug idiotic smile wiped from his face permanently.

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    David
    - October 12, 2012 at 01:26:08

    During the so called PNP Scandal which turned out to nothing other then the follish comments of a a disgruntled liberal worker who has since returned to his job at ACOA. Plus the 3 women and a defeated Tory candidate we all heard from so many people who said they would never Vote Liberal again. We were told the Liberals would be lucky to win any seats in the 2011 election because of the PNP issue. Now we hear the same foolishness with this issue people rattling on they have voted Liberal their whole life but never again because of a the silly road protest by a few tree huggers. Problem is it is the same people with this issue as it was the PNP Issue. It is like a canned group of protestors who move from one topic to another trying to get public and media attention. If the so called majority of islanders who doesn't seem to number more then 200 at the most couldn't defeat the Liberals with the PNP issue(which really was more serious then a silly highway project) then I doubt the 200 protestors will have any success here either. Within a year it will be something else the protestors in a can will have moved onto and their 200 at the most with be screaming again about the majority of PEI. Really people just stop listening after a while and until they see a viable alternative to the Liberals they will continue to vote for them. The 200 protestors in a can will continue to scream about being a majority of 98,000 voters. But the majority will not be listening to them like they are now.

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    Will Brown from Maine
    - October 12, 2012 at 01:04:34

    Keep the fire going and keep up the good work you're doing to stop Plan B, every one of you. Mr. Weale's comments are heartening and it is good that more folks are standing up against this project as well as the way finances are being mis-handled by the provincial government. It should be obvious to everyone on the island that their tax match in this folly is being going to cost them big-time and that there are so many other highway safety projects ALL OVER THE ISLAND that are far, far more important. You must keep pounding on Mr. Ghiz' door. He will have to answer eventually and when he does hand him a pair of pants, but not until he back-peddles on Plan B.

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      Kevin K
      - October 12, 2012 at 03:20:38

      I am from Ontario and even here people speak about support for the protestors. They see Ghiz's Government as the weakest of any in Canada. He has definitely not helped people's opinions "Gentle Island" hardly! I hope the people in PEI know that their Government is well known across Canada. Whether it is a corrupt citizenship for sale scam or needlessly tearing up the environment, how did you ever elect these people.

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    Bob
    - October 12, 2012 at 00:57:32

    No it's science.

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    Piet Hein
    - October 12, 2012 at 00:45:22

    By Stander, your name says it all. You are one of those who watches life go by and then mocks anyone who stands up against wrongs. It is obvious you have absolutely no knowledge of the protest or protesters because if you did you would know it is not the "usual suspects" Maybe if you went out to the protest site you would see a cross section of people from all walks of life. There are young and old men and women. They are people who believe in something and that is one thing you will never understand.

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      By Stander
      - October 12, 2012 at 08:56:52

      To Piet Hein Some us us have to go to work. I agree we all should all stand for something and I do as well as many others but I don't run out for every cause and protest like some people do . I know that you will enjoy the new highway.

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    Tom Jacobs
    - October 11, 2012 at 23:44:22

    2,000 signatures on a petition can't stop this, but an old man lights a magic fire and the RCMP can't put it out?

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    Highway Man
    - October 11, 2012 at 23:14:02

    No more Liberal votes from me.

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    Javier
    - October 11, 2012 at 22:55:18

    It seems rather odd to burn wood in a sacred fire to protest trees being cut down.

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      Piet Hein
      - October 12, 2012 at 00:36:33

      Javier, are you dumb enough to think they are cutting wood in the grove and burning green wood. They are burning dead wood or wood that has been cut and dried probably last year or more, but I bet you think your comment is really witty.

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    john
    - October 11, 2012 at 22:50:44

    What would ever happen if this took place in Quebec??????????????????????????

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      To John, you're right.
      - October 12, 2012 at 08:00:45

      OKA . . . Our Mi'kmaq brothers and sisters have helped; wonder if the Mohawks nation would help us out as well?

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    Tom Jacobs
    - October 11, 2012 at 22:36:21

    Let it be known that I am totally against Plan B. But I find the idea of a magic fire totally absurd. If a Christian Minister told them that God said they should stop the highway, would they stop?

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      oh my.
      - October 12, 2012 at 09:54:26

      clearly you do not understand the means and intentions

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    MT POCKETS
    - October 11, 2012 at 21:39:15

    I agree with Mr Weale. As a person who has been involved with Engineering and constuction of infrstructure for over 35 years, I say correct just the few areas that are really bad. Then get going on the Cornwall by pass. The actions of those in power have all ready resulted in many many people to change their colors . Sorry grits NO donation this year

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      hughjordan
      - October 11, 2012 at 22:28:46

      The cost of a Cornwall bypass will dwarf plan b just in the bridge construction....forget about it.

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      Pit Owner
      - October 12, 2012 at 05:06:13

      But if correct what needs to be fixed instead to cutting the trees on my land and selling off from the pit, how will I line my pocket the last term the Liberals will have for several elections?

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    Winter
    - October 11, 2012 at 21:37:40

    Democracy is & has been dead on PEI since the days of forced amalgamation. The opinion of the voters counted not one bit, same again on this issue.

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    islanders a vindictive fighter
    - October 11, 2012 at 20:50:00

    The rancid stench from the fifth floor is becoming intolerable. Indeed Mr. Wheel it is a slap in the face with some hair pulling and biting. Dirty fighters hide all the misdeeds behind the majority of seats totalitarian rule. This issue magnifies the disgust with so many bad deeds by Ghiz. It will also stoke the inquiries and digging for dirt against such vile opponents. The witch hunt on Ghiz team is about to get energized like never before. Look at the public inquiry in Quebec and compare to the great corruption inquiry we could have in PEI. Public Inquiry on PNP and watch your caucus Ghiz.

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  • shawn vincent
    islander man
    - October 11, 2012 at 20:25:03

    i think the protesters are about 10 years late trying to save the woodland,in case you have not noticed PEI has been almost flattened due to over cutting.i think the highway may be needed,but why now after crying hard times ,job cuts etc.

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    By Stander
    - October 11, 2012 at 20:19:36

    This is too funny, All these guys come out of the woodwork (so to speak ) Sark, Weele etc, etc just to see and hear their names in the news. Where are the other usuals like Brodrick, Boyd, Labchuck, Kolsar . Keep watching they will be there.

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      Ray Mahar
      - October 11, 2012 at 21:24:31

      BY STANDER:-Where are the other usuals like Brodrick, Boyd, Labchuck, Kolsar . Keep watching they will be there. I certainly hope they do show up. BTW is the Issue to small for "International protesters to show up. ie: Siera Club and Greenpiece: Is there no Interest in the womans Groups. (PLEASE HELP) And thank you Grand Chief Sark. Keep the fire burning.

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      By Stander
      - October 11, 2012 at 22:20:37

      Maybe the big professional protesters are not all that wound up over 9 trees. I can't see the local protesters ( that protest everything ) not showing up when they have a chance to see their names in print. Just look at all the protest over the years and you will find all the regulars there.

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      Bystander alright huh
      - October 12, 2012 at 02:55:42

      Sir, or Madam, what do you know about your "Mr" Weale? Apparently you are judging someone you do not really know. Did you know that Dr. Weale is not only a highly respected professor, but also a most insightful and careful writer, author, Islander! Nobody has to agree with his every stance, or with every line he writes or with every word he speaks, but one has to respect him for saying openly whatever he believes, and he is a hundred percent no nonsense "for the people" --unlike some of our bureaucrats.

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    Bob
    - October 11, 2012 at 20:14:26

    If they let them continue on clear cutting trees there will be plenty of wood for the fire.

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      Deeply Concerned
      - October 12, 2012 at 00:11:49

      Wow, I truly hope that is a joke. Those are my children in the picture in middle of that article. It's very sad to see such displays of ignorance...I pray all of your own future generations learn a little more about their surroundings and the effects of their actions and words than those who have chosen to be so hateful. If I had the gift to enlighten those whose minds are so clouded, I would do so in a heartbeat. But alas, I can only continue to do and stand up for what I know is right - not only for me, but my kids and the future of OUR home...this earth.

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