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Provinces to pay for senate elections: federal minister

Federal Conservative MP Tim Uppal, second right, visited Charlottetown and one of his stops was at the Rotary Club of Charlottetown. From left are Nelson Haggerman, chair of the meeting; Bria Brown, co-chair, and Larry Sider, acting club president. Guardian photo

Federal Conservative MP Tim Uppal, second right, visited Charlottetown and one of his stops was at the Rotary Club of Charlottetown. From left are Nelson Haggerman, chair of the meeting; Bria Brown, co-chair, and Larry Sider, acting club president.

Published on July 30, 2012
Published on July 30, 2012
Teresa Wright  RSS Feed

Ghiz has said he is not opposed to senate elections, but does not want to pay for them

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House of Commons , Alberta , Charlottetown , British Columbia

Provinces will have to pay the cost of senate elections, according to the federal minister of state for democratic reform.

Tim Uppal was in Charlottetown Monday for meetings with provincial government officials and members of the public to discuss senate reform.

In an interview with The Guardian, Uppal said the federal government believes provinces should follow Alberta’s model of senate elections and hold them concurrently with provincial or municipal elections.

“You’re not recreating or paying for the whole structure of an election. You’re adding a ballot, which, yes there’s a cost to it. But the costs are considerably less than a full-out election,” Uppal said.

“The cost of that, like in Alberta, would be with the provinces.”

The Harper government introduced legislation in the House of Commons last year proposing a system for provinces and territories to establish elections for their senators. The prime minister and governor general would have to consider those elected, but would not be bound to appoint them when vacancies arrive. The bill also proposes to limit senators to a single nine-year term.

Alberta became the first to hold elections for three senate nominees during its recent provincial election. British Columbia and Saskatchewan have also made moves in this direction.

New Brunswick Premier David Alward announced last year he would join the train and introduce senate nominee elections as well. At the time it was believed other Atlantic provinces would feel compelled to follow suit.

But so far none has shown interest.

P.E.I. Premier Robert Ghiz has said he is not opposed to senate elections, but does not want to pay for them.

“We're dealing with our own financial situation in the province,” he said in a March interview with The Guardian.

“I do have an issue with the provinces running it – these are federal senators, they're not provincial senators.”

Ghiz also said the notion of senate reform is at the bottom of his priority list for P.E.I. However in his speech from the throne this spring, he did announce he would send it to a legislative committee for review, “to engage Islanders on whether Prince Edward Island should pursue election of its senate representatives.”

Uppal said he is supportive of this approach as a way to engage the community on the issue.

But he said the federal government will be moving forward on the issue because it believes Canadians are in favour of it.

The Senate Reform Act is currently in second reading in Parliament, but has been stalled from quicker progress by the Opposition NDP and Liberals.

“I’ve asked that they stop stalling it and let it come to a vote,” Uppal said.

“At the end of the day, travelling across the country, Canadians support term limits for senators and having a voice in the senate in the sense of senate elections.”

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    Island Boy
    - July 31, 2012 at 12:02:11

    Well Garth Staples,,,some day you will start thinking like an Islander and stop hiding behind every Tory stance. Harper put the likes of Mike Duffy into the Senate,,, he would have been better off to select either of the two Legion guys Duffy had his picture taken with,,, Sorry Garth, born a Tory; die a Tory no longer applies,,, Islanders DO think.

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    angus
    - July 31, 2012 at 11:28:29

    Let's remember first of all that you cannot abolish the Senate without reopening the constitution - Quebec, along with some others will not agree - period. So while Harper may want to abolish the Senate it's a non-starter at the moment. For those who object to an appointed Senate - he's offered to give them the option of elections. Those provinces opting to do so will pay for them, why should all taxpayers across the country? It's time many citizens started getting the message - you want it - you pay for it. Whine all you want, the days of Liberals bankrupting the country like Trudeau and his successors did, to buy your votes with goodies are over. Deal with it!

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    Trevor Leclerc
    - July 31, 2012 at 10:02:27

    Provinces to pay for elections to the federal Senate, but the feds will not have to appoint them? I would love to hear the semantic contortions to make this sound logical.

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    Not Crazy Yet
    - July 30, 2012 at 23:42:24

    If I remember rightly, Harper was in favour of abolishing the senate. Here we are talking about provinces paying for federal position elections now. I need a program to follow the flip flops of governments at all levels. Anyway, aren't those senators in there for life, once appointed? How many elections would this mean for our FOUR senators, and why do we need FOUR (and that includes the one who hasn't lived in PEI since he was a very young man)? I like the sober second thought idea, but think we have too many elected people between municiple, provincial and both levels of the feds. If they knew what one another was doing, then I could accept it, but alas, it is not so.

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    • Username
      check the constitution
      - July 31, 2012 at 12:09:26

      to NOT CRAZY YET - our having four senators is in the Canadian Constitution.

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    Island Boy
    - July 30, 2012 at 21:45:25

    Somebody has got to be kidding us,,, pay for Senate elections?? What guarantees do the Provinces have that the Prime Minister will appoint those persons the Province suggests. For Premier Ghiz to even consider this proposal is beyond belief. Sir John A. designed a place of 'sober second thought' (the Senate) and I am sick and tired of seeing the Senate's role in the Canadian Federation tossed around and played with in the manner that Harper is suggesting. The Senate has a 'role', appointment of 'hacks' undermine that role . Islanders be aware, the Senate is ultimately our 'protection' against being 'over whelmed' by larger Provinces and it is not helped by what is proposed or has been actioned by the present Government. We are not the USofA, the 'powers' of the two main bodies of our Government are defined and the Senate with representation for smaller Provincial mandates must be maintained to ensure our 'voice' is heard.

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      Garth Staples
      - July 31, 2012 at 07:45:27

      Island Boy : Well 'my boy' the Prov. Govt wastes enugh money in a day to run 10 senate elections. Get with it. Let's have some democratic reform. Let the people vote for their Senate reps. It is such a simple concept that some of those who are protecting their 'entitlements can't comprehend losing them.

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      Resident
      - July 31, 2012 at 08:24:57

      You can opt out from the elections, can't you?

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