Ghiz says province cutting 60 teaching jobs

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The government is eliminating about 60 teaching jobs across the province, but they will all be through retirements, says Education Minister Alan McIsaac.

McIsaac said the government expects to cut about 120 positions over three years in the education system, including the education department and the school boards when they amalgamate.

"Teachers only through attrition," he said.

Opposition Leader Olive Crane raised the issue during Thursday's question period when she asked Premier Robert Ghiz why the government was firing 120 teachers.

"How is firing 120 teachers going to help the education system," she said.

Ghiz responded by saying there would only be the 60 teaching positions eliminated through attrition and that Crane should get her facts straight before she rises in the house.

Crane later asked Ghiz if he was going to meet with graduating UPEI education students to tell them he was firing 120 teachers and there wouldn't be work for teachers in P.E.I.

"You want them to leave the province," she said.

Ghiz responded by saying he wanted to make the cuts clear to Crane.

"She can accuse me of being a liar or whatever she wants to do, but look at me and listen, 60 teachers are gonna be eliminated over the next three years, OK," he said.

He went on to say the ratio of students to teachers will stay the same.

"I wish the leader of the opposition would pay attention to what the answers are in the house, otherwise why is she even asking questions," he said.

"She can accuse me of being a liar or whatever she wants to do, but look at me and listen, 60 teachers are gonna be eliminated over the next three years, OK," Premier Robert Ghiz

In an interview after question period, McIsaac said no teachers will lose their jobs because of the changes.

"Definitely not," he said.

The decisions about cuts won't be final until the budget comes down, McIsaac said so he hadn't met with the P.E.I. Teachers' Federation yet to discuss the changes.

McIsaac said he did plan to meet with them Friday afternoon so the federation would have a chance to talk about the changes before the budget.

"They definitely will," he said.

The province has seen enrollments go down and the government has committed to maintaining student-teacher ratios so there is room to reduce the number of teachers, McIsaac said.

"The biggest thing is we want the best education for our children."

Crane said she thinks the government shouldn't reduce the number of teachers in P.E.I. despite the lower enrollment numbers because students have shown poor academic results.

"For me, right now the outcomes are what parents are interested in and while our kids continue to fail because of the education program this government is running we need the support and absolutely we need the educators," she said.

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  • voter
    April 15, 2012 - 10:55

    teachers are much more necessary than politicians !!!! almost 20 years after the stupid 7.5% rollback of the 1994 etc callbeck reign maybe those same mla's should be asked again about cuting jobs and people --mlas 1995 were-----------Bradley, Walter [C] (2nd Kings) Agriculture, Fisheries and ForestryBruce, Stanley [A] (4th Kings)Buchanan, Alan [A] (4th Queens) Provincial Affairs and Attorney GeneralCallbeck, Catherine [C] (1st Queens) Premier, and President of the Executive Council Carroll, Tim [C] (5th Queens)Cheverie, Q.C., Wayne [A] (5th Queens) Provincial Treasurer Clark, Edward [C] (3rd Prince) Connolly, Paul [C] (6th Queens) Doucette, Peter [A] (3rd Kings) Dunphy, Tom [C] (3rd Queens) Guptill, Nancy [C] (5th Prince) Speaker Hicken, Barry [C] (5th Kings) Environmental Resources Hubley, Libbe [C] (4th Prince) Deputy Speaker hubley, Roberta [C] (3rd Kings) Huestis, Stavert [A] (4th Prince) Lea, Jeannie [A] (6th Queens) Higher Education, Training and Adult Learning MacDonald, Rose Marie [A] (5th Kings) MacInnis, Gordon [A] (2nd Queens) Education MacKinley, Ronald [C] (2nd Queens) MacLeod, Hector [C] (1st Prince) MacPherson, Lynwood [C] (4th Queens) Maddix, Robert [A] (3rd Prince) Matheson, Claude [A] (2nd Kings) McEwen, Q.C., Walter [A] (5th Prince) Health and Social Services [A] (2nd Prince) Transportation and Public Works Morrissey, Robert [A] (1st Prince) Economic Development and Tourism Murphy, Marion [A] (1st Queens) Soloman, Roger [A] (1st Kings)Young, Ross [C] (1st Kings)

  • Sarah G.
    April 14, 2012 - 07:03

    "She can accuse me of being a liar or whatever she wants to do, but look at me and listen, 60 teachers are gonna be eliminated over the next three years, OK," he said. It is quite frustrating when you are talking to someone and they do not listen.... I am asking you to listen Mr. Ghiz. Please Stop Plan B. Please do not spend 16 Million of our hard earned tax dollars on the TransCanada Highway. Please find a cheaper way to improve the highway and safety. Please Stop Plan B. Thanks.

  • Shirley
    April 13, 2012 - 08:11

    Robert should LISTEN to the question been asked. There is right now students graduates to become teachers so if he is cutting all these teaching jobs where are these new teachers going to teach ROBERT is that clear enough for you to understand?????????????????????

  • Angie
    April 13, 2012 - 07:20

    Methinks Mr. Ghiz needs a new name...how 'bout "The Slasher"??

  • DISGUSTED
    April 13, 2012 - 07:09

    Our arrogant little worm of a premier of Charlottetown needs to go and right now Before we have no jobs on pei. except for the government hacks Take a cut in salary MLA's Give up your meal tickets gas money and then you will know how the rest of us live. Olive Crane told us not to re-elect the Ghiz Kid government and now we are reaping the benefits of our being disobedient.

  • Thane Adams
    April 13, 2012 - 06:53

    Ghiz has to go, ASAP. An uneducated moron could run our province better

  • David
    April 13, 2012 - 01:04

    Enrollment is down so why would we need all the teachers. It is not rocket science. If the number of students attending schools is declining then why would we need all the teachers. Doesn't take much sense to know this. Besides might be the first time in their careers that these teachers might actually have to work a full day or even a full year.

  • SG
    April 12, 2012 - 23:08

    What's next the 7% Roll Back?

  • True classroom ratio
    April 12, 2012 - 21:10

    Maybe we should get real student to teacher classroom ratios. Maybe we should exclude the French school classrooms with 5 students for one teacher. When you have some English classroom teachers trying to teach 30 children with probably 5-6 in that room with learning challenges.

  • John
    April 12, 2012 - 20:46

    The worst medical system in the western hemisphere and lowest achieving education system in Canada. Is there anything this provincial government does right?

  • Mel
    April 12, 2012 - 20:12

    Apparently our children's education means nothing to this poor excuse of a premier. How long until we can vote him out?

  • Gary
    April 12, 2012 - 19:32

    Way to go Awesome! Maybe we could go back to horses and buggies, since cars cause pollution. Actually it isn't teachers we should be getting rid of; it's television. BTW, everybody still donating their 7 1/2 % to reducing the deficit?

  • Question
    April 12, 2012 - 18:17

    Did Robbert ever have a real job.One he got on his own without political connections.He must realize that a person who studied and worked to get a job is devastated to be told ....GO HOME

  • paul
    April 12, 2012 - 17:55

    i can think of a few teachers they can axe, and it would actually help the education system

  • ME
    April 12, 2012 - 17:37

    Surely to God there must must be one honest person who can be an honest politician out there in this province who would care and be for by and of the people. I am SO GD tired of spin and crap and wasteful spending and stupid decisions.

  • where's it going to end?
    April 12, 2012 - 17:28

    Why doesn't the MLA'S take a cut in pay and get rid of senators who are back chairs taking up room we don't need? That would save from cutting some good jobs that are much needed for PEI ,family's.I'm sure Ghiz and his buddy s are not too worried about a pension. Damn you politicians. We would be better of with no government........

  • Funk & Wagnalls
    April 12, 2012 - 17:25

    The one room schoolhouse isn't a bad idea as the graduates of one room schoolhouses are better educated than a lot of graduates of the consolidated system. Maybe that is why we have such poor politicians, they didn't go to one room schools.Sir John A went to a one room schoolhouse and he was a better prime minister (drunk or sober) than Steve Harper.

  • N.
    April 12, 2012 - 16:55

    This Premier should be ashamed of himself and his government. It was almost 2 years ago that I sat in the office of the former Minister of Education, Mr Currie, asking what I needed to do to stay competitive with long list of substitute teachers that could not secure full time employment as a full time teacher on PEI. It was then that I was told to return to university to pursue level B educational assessment certification. After following through with this suggestion from the former minister I have yet to recieve full time employment as a certified teacher in the very province I grew up in and was educated in, therefore leaving me no choice but to shut the door to the public school system and find employment elsewhere. When I addressed these concerns to the Premier at an educational forum just before the election, I was told that " There will always be someone whining about the hiring process". Well Premier, at least I can hold my head up high knowing that I am contributing to the well-being of Islanders....unlike yourself! You're a disgrace!!!

  • al fredd
    April 12, 2012 - 16:54

    Not that I am particularly wise, but would it not make sense to scrap the whole department of education, minister, deputy and all, an appointed new school board, like Health PEI (get rid of Dept.of Health too) could run the show, and look at all the money we would save. ---. All the poor souls that are forced to trot to Summerside to work every day would be released, - and all the money spend on restoring the offices up there would be no more wasted than so much more under this government, - eg. the road at Bonshaw. Just a thought----------

  • MgEllis
    April 12, 2012 - 16:22

    CBC news quotes the PEI Teachers federation as saying 120 education and teaching spots will be cut and that "with this announcement we will have a hard time maintaining the gains that have been made." Sounds to me like the premier is splitting hairs on this. What's the difference between an educator and a teacher? At the end of the day there will be 120 fewer of them when the Ghiz government gets through with them.

    • Mrs. Brownie
      April 12, 2012 - 23:09

      AUDIT MLA'S Government Expense Accounts ! ! !

    • bob from cardigan
      April 13, 2012 - 07:48

      thanks for investigating that, its good to see someone actually looks for the facts. we all suffer in the end.

  • Binns Supporter
    April 12, 2012 - 16:01

    Bring back Binns before every doctor leaves this province and RN's lose their jobs along with teachers.hire a group of grade 12 students and let them bring our province back. so you are not all taking a raise GOOD.Its time all government cars were taken away to save us money.Shape up or ship out

    • Call it like it IS
      April 12, 2012 - 22:13

      No offence intended BINNS SUPPORTER , However, in tracing back the Binn's CON government as compared to the current Ghic Lieberal government although there wasn't anything the magnitude of the Immigrant - investor PNP scam, rip-off, thefth, there are reams of internet informations of the same whining and complaining. Would the PEI WHINERS LIKE SOME CHEESE TO GO WITH THEIR WHINES? OFFER up some Suggestions,to Solutions to go with the Whines. DID YOU KNOW - THE PEI WHINERS With VOTERS, "REPEATIDLY" CONFIRM EINSTIENS DEFINITION OF INSANITY Which Is:- QUOTE:- “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.” ISLANDERS HAVE BEEN DOING tHIS FOR DECADES, IT'S 2012, DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO BETTER INFORM YOURSELVES ABOUT THE WORKINGS OF GOVERNMENT, YOUR PROVINCE'S GOV. LEGISLATED ACTS aka LAWS, yOUR RIGHTS? It HAS come to YOU, Your CHILDREN And FAMILY AGAINST THEM, It is NOT Con-Lieberal, Lieberal-Cons anymore. It's a matter of survival, It IS you against them AS tHEY'VE BEEN AGAINST yOU FOR DECADES . . . NOW. WAKE UP - For Your own survival & that of your Children's futures & health, well being, SMARTEN YOURSELVES UP !

  • Guess what
    April 12, 2012 - 15:43

    Anybody who voted for Robbie Ghiz is getting exactly what they deserve-he's the worst Premier ever and its only going to get worse folks.

    • arlene
      April 12, 2012 - 18:19

      It doesn't matter what party gets in they are all the same....lining there own pockets....

    • Spud Islander
      April 12, 2012 - 19:28

      Totally Agree Guess What! The people of PEI voted Ghiz back in (but I wasn't one of them) - So hope all you Liberals are happy because it doesn't matter who you are your getting S*r*w*d by Robbie boy and hope you are all enjoying it! Thankfully I still have a job to go to tomorrow!

    • Frank
      April 12, 2012 - 20:09

      Things wouldn't have been any better under an Olive Crane government. Cutting the PST by 2% wasn't going to fix our debt problems, or accepting 2% raises for MLA's. Hopefully islanders start realizing there are more than two options in this province.

  • Alma McDonald
    April 12, 2012 - 15:33

    , ---Oh, is the honey moon over???(teachers) -- Well, so is the election, - glad you are getting screwed over like the rest of us.

    • Alma's a moron
      April 12, 2012 - 16:53

      Alma, you certainly a miserable so and so. What a moron. What's the matter? Your regular stool at Tims taken by someone else?

  • bob from cardigan
    April 12, 2012 - 15:24

    and I quote "only be 60 teachers cut over a three-year period" Sir. Robert the Great Ghiz... I wonder if Mr. Ghiz ever had to face losing a job and having it called "only" a job.

    • Frank
      April 12, 2012 - 20:07

      No teachers are losing their jobs. 60 teachers will not be replaced when they retire. That's a huge difference than someone losing their job.

  • Awesome.
    April 12, 2012 - 15:10

    PEI has the worst education system in the country. Let's fix it by getting rid of teachers. Maybe we could go back to one room schoolhouses, they only need one teacher.

    • You know
      April 12, 2012 - 18:09

      PEI has a poor educational record because of the attitude that if you aren't guaranteed a job when you are done, only the stupid and lazy get "educated".

    • What
      April 12, 2012 - 20:08

      What