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Muslims, Christians talk peace at UPEI

UPEI held a diversity-week event Tuesday, a Muslim/Christian dialogue on peace. Panel members were, from left, Rami Nassif, Kelsey Goodick, Jo-Ann Esseghaier and Josh Duffy. Nigel Armstrong

UPEI held a diversity-week event Tuesday, a Muslim/Christian dialogue on peace. Panel members were, from left, Rami Nassif, Kelsey Goodick, Jo-Ann Esseghaier and Josh Duffy.

Published on January 24, 2012
Published on January 24, 2012
Nigel Armstrong  RSS Feed
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UPEI , South America

Christians and Muslims met on the UPEI campus Tuesday for an event to mark diversity week, and things got a little tense.

A panel of two Muslims and two Christians spoke to an audience of about 25 people at the chaplaincy centre. It is one of many events for the week coordinated by the diversity office of UPEI Student Services.

Speakers and members of the audience quoted passages from the Bible and Qur´an, each encouraging people to follow a path of peace.

"Part of what makes us diverse is our claims to absolute truth which can be good but most of the time humans use it for bad," said Josh Duffy a panel member and religious studies student at UPEI. "We fail to realize that only God can convert anybody . . .

"Our responsibility to merge this whole diversity is to just honour God in our own lives, live for him and let him sort the things out," said Duffy.

"I (view) this whole pride and conversion thing as being a huge detriment to unity and peace in the world," said Duffy.

"I don't think you can really make somebody want to believe something," said panel member Jo-Ann Esseghaier. "It has to come from within."

"Maybe your behaviour, by being a model, you can give who you are and people (will follow)," said audience member Khadija Ghanam. "I think the main thing here, we should be all 'love luminaries' and just spread love and peace and respect to each other.

"The main objective of religion is peace and love and that should be the main objective for each," said Ghanam.

"My point is we don't necessarily need to believe exactly the same things to come along side each other in a spirit of peace," said Duffy in another portion of the meeting.

"For example, Jesus went to the Samaritans and they hated the Jews. They were enemies of the Jews but Jesus transgressed those differences to bring peace and revelation to them.

"I shouldn't need to expect you to receive Jesus as God for me to (work with you)," said Duffy speaking to a Muslim couple in the audience.

One of the panel members was UPEI student Rami Nassif who asked if he could speak past the allotted time on an associated topic. He was given that chance later in the meeting, but was soon asked to stop.

He had begun to look at the definition of terrorism and use it to look at the actions of European cultures, beginning hundreds of years ago in South America. He said he wanted to look at the media interpretation of Islam.

Members of the audience and moderator Sister Sue Kidd intervened, saying the direction he was going, likely to say that all religions and cultures can be accused of being terrorist, was not in the spirit of meeting.

"The purpose of this is to let us talk to each other, with each other," said Kidd. "You are putting forward a media issue . . . but that is not what we would like to be about tonight."

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    joan m
    - January 30, 2012 at 13:30:19

    Doesnt matter?WAKEUP ALREADY.Honor killing in Ontario doesnt bother anyone?/Come on and dont talk about HATE SPEACH.Think it couldnt happen here? think again.

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    dm
    - January 26, 2012 at 22:11:01

    Garth Staples go to the CIA if you want to go on a crusade against terrorists theres lots of them there, your comments are dumb as always who ever you are

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    Same God
    - January 25, 2012 at 13:19:45

    Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all believe in the same god, but differ in who is the messiah. Christianity says Jesus, Islam says he's not the messiah but a prophet of god. Judasim says what Islam says, not the messiah but instead a prophet. They share many of the same prophets and angels but hey keep on killing each other over differences of opinion and the holy land. I'm sure god will at least be happy that you took the time out of your day to think about him and spill the blood of others who believe in him, but have a difference of opinion. Dust is worth more than blood, right?

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      George
      - January 25, 2012 at 14:43:24

      There is one little difference. Islam considers Jesus as a prophet. Judaism considers Jesus and Mohhamed heretics. There is more commonalities between Islam and Christianity than between Christianity and Judaism...

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      same god
      - January 25, 2012 at 15:05:37

      Either way they all still believe in the same god, and kill over differences of opinion. God must be very proud. Dust and dirt > blood.

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      Captain Canuck
      - January 28, 2012 at 00:27:23

      Woah there George. While there are lots of commonalities among Christians, Muslims and Jews, Christianity IS Judaism. It is Judaism with the belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the son of God. The commonalities between Judaism and Chritianity are more frequent than the commonalities between Islam and Christianity. Unfortunately most of us only look at the differences, instead of the important stuff - the tenets of all Abrahamic religions preach peace, love, understanding etc. These are the commonalities and that is what we should look at - instead of looking at the wild-eyed rantings of the fundamentalist fringes of each.

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    JOANM
    - January 25, 2012 at 12:34:02

    No one should go into a discussion,without great knowledge of the other party..Do you know that the MAIN purpose of the muslim religion ,is to eliminate the great satan [Christianity] from earth.?True.That said,dont be fooled.

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      Islander
      - January 25, 2012 at 21:03:53

      I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. Please don't spread hate.

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    magnusson
    - January 25, 2012 at 12:01:23

    Funny, but I don't recall religion and diversity being such an issue in the public eye before 9/11. And Muslims? I don't recall any fuss there, either. They just went about their business like everybody else. (Most of them still do, so far as I can tell.) It wasn't a high-profile issue. Now suddenly all the talk is about "diversity" and how the West should show more tolerance. Well, it seems to me that the only ones making an issue nowadays are those with some sort of agenda -- either religious or political. And incidentally, there is a difference between an "Islamist" and a "Muslim". If more people in the West understood that, I think there would be a clearer dialogue.

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    Garth Staples
    - January 25, 2012 at 11:57:53

    UPEI scholars et al would do well to read: Londonistan by Oxford grad. Melanie Phillips.

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    John
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:29:17

    The Australian prime minister has said it best.... "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. I'm tired of this nation worrying whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by the millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not, Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society..LEARN THE LANGUAGE!"

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    Islander and graduate of religious studies
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:24:55

    It sounds like Rami was making some good points. Judging by the rest of what was reported it sounds like a pretty fluffy discussion for the most part. Christians can get away with not defending against historical or cultural crimes here in PEI. As a Muslim on this panel, in a primarily Christian region of a western country, a country that has a lot of prejudice towards Islam, Rami had much more to defend. It sounds like he had some important issues to talk about. Real issues. Good on him for going beyond "we should be all 'love luminaries" to talk about some of the real issues - the elephants in the room. That said, he certainly should have respected the time limit. If he had stayed within it, they could not have shut him down as easily, and more valuable discussion and grappling with the issues would have been possible and required of the "love luminaries" in the room.

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      duffy
      - January 25, 2012 at 10:57:55

      Rami unfortunately did not respect the time limit nor the nature of the event. He had important things to say, yes, but needs a different venue to voice them. This dialogue was on 'peace' within the context of each scriptural tradition.

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      Siddiqui
      - January 25, 2012 at 14:40:49

      At least those 'love luminaries' are trying to build bridges, not blow them up. I am tried of people using religion as a pretext for war. Who really cares about what happened 500 or 1000 years ago? Yes some Christians did bad things, but so did some Muslims. It is no reason to blow up innocents today. Get over your historical grievances and move on. It should form no part of the current dialogue in world affairs (debate over Palestine, etc.). Whenever I hear someone start talking about The Crusades or some such then I know I am dealing with someone who cannot move on. That is part of fundamentalist, extremist thinking. It is no good. Let go of your hate. It will only hurt you in the end.

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      Islander
      - January 25, 2012 at 21:01:30

      Duffy, Will Rami or other marginalized people be given a venue to engage with the real issues around religion? Probably not, because no one wants to hear it. The token "diversity week" events don't offer a venue to explore of the difficult issues that diversity involves. If you want to talk about religion you need to get beyond what the scriptures say, and explore how that is embodied - and it is embodied in almost all aspects of culture. The islamaphobic comments on this article are evidence of the kinds of assumptions and accusations Rami and other Muslims are faced with every day. If we realize that, maybe we should shape dialogue events like this not for discussion of how to be "luminaries of love" but for talking about real issues, and building real peace, even if it is not a "comfortable" discussion.

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      duffy
      - January 26, 2012 at 22:07:13

      'ISLANDER' I don't know if Rami will get a venue for his opinions, I was only asked to be on a panel defining 'peace' as outlined from the Christian scriptures. Maybe if the people commentating on this forum came to the actual event there would have been questions promoting the kind of discussion you evidently want. That would have been cool. But alas, the 25 or so people there wanted to discuss bridges between the two traditions, not the separations.

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    Garth Staples
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:24:09

    When the Muslim community eradicates Islamists from their midst then peace just may follow. How can we explain away 911, shoe bomber, subway bombings etc etc and the calls to eradicate Israel? It is about time Muslims and Christians joined in a crusade against terrorism.

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      Bud Spud
      - January 25, 2012 at 11:53:44

      What do you think of Christian extremists Garth? Should Christian's "eradicate" them as well? Like it or not, all religions have their wingnuts. But you don't hear Pat Robertson say much about Eric Rudolph or Scott Roeder, do you? Don't forget the bombings in Ireland, the KKK, Army of God, etc.

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      Garth Staples
      - January 25, 2012 at 14:45:36

      Bud the Spud--------whoever you are : If a church condones the actions and goals of the IRA then they too are guilty of lack of leadership and should be exposed. Taking lives in the name of politics and religion must be condemmed by everyone . Read : Londinistan by Melanie Phillips.

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      And so
      - January 25, 2012 at 14:37:04

      And so does atheism in terms of the bloodshed in the last century to rid societies of religion. No one's hands are clean. As long as one group wants power over another, someone will come up with a reason. If it isn't religion, it will be something else.

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    Jill Macdonald
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:23:48

    I am tired of Christians allowing themselves to always be the topic of past evil acts. Rarely in public is it pointed out that Christianity is not alone in how it acted in the past. Kudos to the panel for being unafraid to point out that other religions are also guilty. And not letting this muslum "preacher" hijack the conversation. Islam in the media has been interpreted by actions. And the failure of those irresponsible for those acts within their community to condemn those actions instead of blaming us for misunderstanding.

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    josh duffy
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:22:58

    "I (view) this whole pride and conversation thing as being a huge detriment to unity and peace in the world," said Duffy" I'm pretty sure Duffy said 'pride and conversion' not conversation. Conversation is a good thing. Duffy's 8 minute speak is on YouTube http://goo.gl/zG8zj

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    Jeanette Myers
    - January 25, 2012 at 09:21:36

    Our children are the only ones who can make it right despite what has been done in the past. I also believe it will be the children who have faith in their God (whether that is Christian, Muslim, Buddhism, etc.) that will bring them together. They have the power to change the world because they know each other - they go to school together, they chat, they are friends and it is a wonderful thing to see unfold every day.

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    Brian
    - January 24, 2012 at 23:50:14

    Christian, Muslim, it doesn't matter - they're all just human constructs.

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    attended and enjoyed
    - January 24, 2012 at 23:50:11

    Rami was makinga good point European Christians have persecuted and terrorized in the name of Christianity since the beginning...from Northern Ireland to the crusades.....then there is the suttle discrimination by religious bigots....that was areal issue here on the island and Newfoundland.......and still exists in some circles ....totally unacceptable....and there are islamic Fundmentalists..MUslims who interpret the Qur'an..what they want to interpret .....and people are dying.........over all it was a good meeting

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      Narrow minded
      - January 25, 2012 at 12:00:24

      How many millions have died I'm the last century to create a society without religion? I supposed those dead were justified?

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