Ghiz endorses Green Party tax suggestions



Carl Pursey, left, president of the P.E.I. Federation of Labour and Leonard Crawford sit beside Stacey Delaney, official timer for the federation's Leaders Debate on Labour Issues. It was held Monday at the Muphy Community Centre in Charlottetown with all party leaders attending. Guardian photo by Nigel Armstrong Nigel Armstrong

Carl Pursey, left, president of the P.E.I. Federation of Labour and Leonard Crawford sit beside Stacey Delaney, official timer for the federation's Leaders Debate on Labour Issues. It was held Monday at the Muphy Community Centre in Charlottetown with...

Published on September 19, 2011
Published on September 19, 2011
Wayne Thibodeau  RSS Feed
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The Green Party may have a challenge to form the next government in Prince Edward Island but that doesn't mean its policies won't be adopted into law.

During an all-candidates debate sponsored by the P.E.I. Federation of Labour, Premier Robert Ghiz says he likes some of the tax policies suggested by the Green Party and he wants to take a closer look at what the party is proposing if he's elected Oct. 3.

"We do need to relook at our tax system," Ghiz said.

"I like the idea of taking taxes off things that promote health, whether it's sporting equipment, vitamins, bicycles. I also like her idea that if you make under $20,000 a year, you don't pay tax.

"Those are some of the things I'd like to explore. I'm not making any promises."

During the debate, Labchuk went a step further. She criticized PC Leader Olive Crane for her suggestion of an across the board cut in the PST.

The Green Party leader suggested the province should hike taxes on products that are not environmentally-friendly, such as pesticides.

Meanwhile, the province should cut taxes on products and services that promote health and the environment, Labchuk added.

"Things like vitamins, sports equipment, certain kinds of health foods and medicines," said Labchuk.

"It's a very basic concept, you tax the bad things."

The two hour debate covered a host a labour issues from the Canada Pension Plan to minimum wage to protecting the public service.

Bill McKinnon of CUPE says he's concerned about the leaders' responses on CETA, the Comprehensive Economic Trade Agreement.

Canada and the European Union have completed the eighth round of negotiations toward a Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement. Canada hopes to have the agreement signed by 2012.

Leaders suggested more debate is needed but conceded it will be Ottawa - not the provinces - that will have the final say if an agreement is signed.

"There are real serious problems for average Islanders in that agreement and everyone's eyes glaze over when you talk about it," said McKinnon.

Tony Tracy, Atlantic regional representative for the Canadian Labour Congress, said he's disappointed there were not more hard commitments for a province that has among the lowest labour standards and minimum wages in the country.

"We didn't hear a lot of hard commitments in terms of increasing the labour standards, minimum wages and so forth but certainly we're left with an opening to go in on Oct. 4, after the election, and have further discussions," said Tracy.

Vaughan Davies of the Public Service Alliance of Canada touched off the most debate over his suggestion that the minimum wage should be increased to $17.10 per hour over the next five years.

P.E.I.'s minimum wage is now at $9.30 per hour. It will increase to $9.60 on Oct. 1.

"We feel that Prince Edward Island's increase to a living wage will greatly assist folks to provide the necessities for their families," he said.

"As far as the costs to business, if you do not pay one way you still have to pay another way through social programs and food banks."

Island Party Leader Billy Cann described the increase as "feasible."

PC Leader Olive Crane said she doesn't make commitments she knows she can't keep.

NDP Leader James Rodd said the minimum wage should be at $11.45 now, but did not commit to increasing the minimum wage to $17.10.

Labchuk pitched the idea of a guaranteed livable income, which she described as a bold idea but one worth pursuing.

Ghiz said: "I'd like to create an economy where the private sector is going to have to pay $20 per hour on their own."

 

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  • Username
    Island Mom
    - September 21, 2011 at 12:40:05

    The NDP and Green Party might not be strong enough to form a Government but their Party members can Form an Opposition and ensure Islanders have a level of Accountability and Transparency which they Didn't Have over the past four years. Over the past four years we had Olive, Jim Bagnall and Mike Currie to Speak out on our Behalf. How did that work for Islanders? Do we want another Majority Goverment and four more years of the same? Four more years of Islanders' Voices Not Being Heard, Not Being Counted and Not Being Represented? I DON'T. For me , it's not about Parties, Colors or how my Grandparents and Parents voted decades ago. It's about ensuring ALL Islanders have a Government and an Opposition that can Govern in the Best Interests of ALL Islanders. I truly hope all Islanders will realize that and not Vote according to Family Traditions, and /or Party Promises (that may again never be realized). Our Island has many critical issues that need to be resolved in a timely and productive manner. WE are the only ones that can ensure that happens by not putting all our Eggs in the Same Basket. Families can Split their Votes to ensure we at least have an Opposition that can hold the Elected Gov. accountable. Without that, we can look forward to another four years like the last four with No Level of Accountability. I truly hope Islanders will see this. I don't care which Party is Elected but I do care about Islanders having a Government that can Govern/Speak on Behalf of ALL Islanders. I truly hope Islanders will give this some thought and consideration on Oct. 3rd.

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  • Username
    For Change
    - September 21, 2011 at 10:15:33

    Our family is voting Green and NDP. We need an Opposition whose priorities are similar to the Conservative Government. All three parties working together in the best interests of all Islanders will bring about the Positive Changes needed and an inclusive Gov. will provide a voice for all Islanders. A majority will ensure nothing will be accomplished. Time for Change.

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  • Username
    angry cat boy
    - September 20, 2011 at 23:28:21

    trollz are hungry

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  • Username
    Taxes are needed to pay for programs
    - September 20, 2011 at 13:24:34

    Taxing unhealthy products (starting with chips, bars, pop, energy drinks, cookies, processed cheeses and meats) will provide revenue to support local produce and meat products and programs for necessities. We currently tax alcohol and cigarettes, why not other unhealthy products? I believe tax should be removed on diapers or that a tax allowance should be given for the purchase of diapers and the tax paid. I believe an increase in the provincial basic personal amount is needed to fall in line with minimum wage increases and the cost of living. The basic personal amount should be raised to $9,600. Do a complete re-write of the tax brackets: As of July 2011 Prince Edward Island $0.00 – $31,984.00 9.80% $31,984.01 – $63,969.00 13.80% $63,969.01 – and over 16.70% Whereas Nova Scotia looks like this: Nova Scotia $0.00 – $29,590.00 8.79% $29,590.01 – $59,180.00 14.95% $59,180.01 – $93,000.00 16.67% $93,000.01 – $150,000.00 17.50% $150,000.01 – and over 21.00% The Nova Scotia brackets have lower tax percentages for the low and middle incomes and an increase in the high tax brackets. People in the higher tax brackets are more able to pay the additional 4% tax per year and can make donations, RRSP/TFSA contributions, etc to adjust their tax return. Adjusting the tax brackets and basic personal amount would take pressure off those who needed it most for each paycheck and funds could then be allocated to home heating, youth activities, etc

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  • Username
    Golf Watch
    - September 20, 2011 at 11:02:13

    The point I was trying to make was its not fair to the $75 million golf industry that is struggling I might add .......... to be nailed witha tax while the other sports roll along tax free. The day the tax was added things went in the tank. Just look at the Gov't courses.

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  • Username
    Island Mom
    - September 20, 2011 at 10:16:09

    I've got to hand it to him, saying he'll look at some of the ideas of the Green Party or even NDP...that might save him. I'm a Liberal, there is nothing they could do that would make me vote PC, it's a Party belief. But I am so upset at the spending (like those friggin' hills in Borden! What the soup kitchen would have been able to do given 2million dollars!!!) but what are my options?! The NDP and The Greens aren't strong enough to form a government here, not yet. If I thought Ghiz was willing to take in good suggestions, I'd be happier with my Liberal vote.

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    • Username
      ROLLOVER
      - September 20, 2011 at 13:19:47

      Here is a good suggestion for Ghiz. Publish the PNP recipient list!!!! Beats knee jerkedly aping Green Party promises that could cost us millions upon millions of dollars.

    • Username
      budthespud
      - September 20, 2011 at 22:06:42

      please this must be Roberts mom is it

  • Username
    Over Taxed
    - September 20, 2011 at 10:14:02

    Why hasn't anyone opted to stop taxing the tax? We are the only province in Canada that applies the GST, then we apply the PST to that. That alone would at least save us 0.5%. If PST is 10% then it should be 10%, not 10.5%!

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  • Username
    Billy
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:25:26

    How about taking the PST off your primary vehicle. With no transit system on PEI, everyone requires a vehicle on PEI.

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    • Username
      see billy walk
      - September 20, 2011 at 10:14:47

      Your legs aren't painted on are they? You choose where you live and where you work. That's your problem, not mine as a taxpayer. And the same goes for whether there are enough people on your road to justify paving, plowing and maintaining it. That's your choice as well.

    • Username
      anonymous
      - September 20, 2011 at 10:37:03

      We've had a transit system in Charlottetown for the past 5 or 6 years. Granted, it's not very comprehensive but if more people ditched their cars and committed themselves to using it then it would have a chance to expand even further. Our population simply cannot support a transit system akin to those found in large cities such as Halifax or Toronto etc. Vehicles aren't necessarily required in all areas of the island (I myself have survived 5 years in Charlottetown without one) and dropping taxes from such a major item certainly won't help the transit system in any way.

    • Username
      to see billy walk
      - September 20, 2011 at 15:59:32

      Iam sorry but the truth of matter is many people d not have a choice whre to work. They work where they can get hired. I chose to work at DVA, however I could only get hired at Tims. My pay cheque is modist, so I have to live were I can afford, not were I would like to. The fact you think people have a choice BS. As for not having PST on your primary car, I do like the idea. However only on a second hand car under $5000. If you can afford new you can afford tax

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    Independant
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:25:20

    Who decides what is bad for us and what is not? The GOVERNMENT? special interest groups? Is a hamburger bad for me? is a granola bar bad for me? is pop bad for me? are some types of bread bad for me? You got too love these people, they take away the little things that people enjoy and impose there will upon them, After taxing the bad things then comes the BAN. Gotta love big government

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  • Username
    Garth Staples
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:24:29

    There isn't a tax Ghiz doesn't like!

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  • Username
    Joke
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:24:23

    Great-so now someone who draws EI wont have to pay taxes-go fish for a few weeks-then maybe dig a few potatoes and work cash jobs the rest of the year-give your head a shake Mr Ghiz!

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  • Username
    Yawnis it over
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:23:30

    This debate was a sleeper. What ever gains the Tories made last week they are giving back very quickly. The Green Lapchuck sure is abrasive! Somebody should wake Rodd up and tell him he is in an election campaign. As for Ghiz - arrogance personified. What a campaign.

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  • Username
    proximo
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:23:15

    I can't tell if Robert is staggering around in his mind and latching on to other party's platforms on a whim. Or is this a purposeful action to boost Sharon and defeat Richard in District 12? In any event the young Tory Miles MacKinnon seems to be besting Richard and will probably get the job done in any case.This election is about corruption and what Islanders are going to do about it.There may just be a hunger for new faces. That is what will finish off Richard and many other Liberal MLAs.

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  • Username
    Andrew
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:22:54

    This is why the green party is really a European party. Their is a time for taxes to be increased, but not here, and not now. Olive has a point with cutting the PST, we're the most taxed province in the country, in one of the most taxed countries in the world, more taxes isn't the answer.

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  • Username
    Issues Issues
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:21:56

    How about government buildings that are all accessible to all citizens for employment? How about a living wage and a health care system? Nothing says hire me like a person with a condition to manage and they have to miss work for 8 hours in a waiting room because they have no doctor, no health insurance to cover the cost of the perscription and have to do this during the time they are supposed to be at work. You raise the cost of the wage it will just raise the cost of goods. That is funny. Olive saying she does not want to make promises she cannot keep and telling Islanders they are going to get a 2% cut in the gst.

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  • Username
    I have seen it all
    - September 20, 2011 at 09:21:32

    Ghiz will say and do anything for the next 2 weeks to get elected, taking the taxes off bicycles and roller blades is not going to help seniors buy oil to keep warm. We need leadership and this guy has displayed very little of it so far this campaign.

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  • Username
    Buy It Now Auction
    - September 20, 2011 at 00:13:51

    $9.60, $11.45, $17.10, $20 going going gone... Ghiz won! Get that new PNP cash register rolling, so we can pay $20 min wage to everyone... What a circus!

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  • Username
    Golf Watch
    - September 20, 2011 at 00:12:33

    PST off Sports Equipment ! Great idea. But are they going to screw over the golf industry again by not charging tax on sports equipment with the exception of golf merchandise. Well for those of you that dont already know ......... thats what they do on Green Fees and Golf Memberships compared to the other sports. When asked about it they said Golf was different becasue golfers are elitests. Nice answer !

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    • Username
      PENNY KOUND
      - September 20, 2011 at 09:22:29

      I myself am a very avid golfer and enjoy golfing with my workmates all the time. We should not need to be taxed at the course as my score is usually punishment enough. if Ghiz gets elected it should be his mandate to subsidize gold memberships for everyone. That way, me and the fine gentlemen I work with could play more often.

    • Username
      DENT KOLLAR
      - September 20, 2011 at 10:12:56

      I take some offence to Mr. Kound's comments on the current golf tax situation. I do understand that a subsidy would help introduce more Islanders to the game however it is quite obvious that it is not reallly a reasonable option. To even make such a proposal indicates to me that your gold game isn't the only thing with a handicap.

    • Username
      DENT KOLLAR
      - September 20, 2011 at 10:14:14

      I take some offence to Mr. Kound's comments on the current golf tax situation. I do understand that a subsidy would help introduce more Islanders to the game however it is quite obvious that it is not reallly a reasonable option. To even make such a proposal indicates to me that your gold game isn't the only thing with a handicap.

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