PNP bigger issue for Conservatives than Liberals



09272011 Decision 11 PNP poll

09272011 Decision 11 PNP poll

Published on September 29, 2011
Published on September 29, 2011
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Corporate Research Associates , Globe and Mail , Marriott hotel , Prince Edward Island , Ottawa , Hong Kong

Allegations of fraud and bribery are not traditional issues in a Prince Edward Island election campaign.

That all changed on Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011, with a headline in The Globe and Mail that read: “Ottawa calls for probe of immigration program.”

The salacious allegations that a P.E.I. bureaucrat met a would-be immigrant in a Marriott hotel suite in Hong Kong and handed that bureaucrat an envelope stuffed with cash created a firestorm across the province and changed the course of the election campaign.

Don Mills, president of Corporate Research Associates, says whether it was a game-changer for Island voters depended on which party that voter supported. He said the majority of Liberals felt it wasn’t going to influence how people voted while Conservatives believed it was going to dramatically change the outcome of the election.

“That’s been the big issue,” Mills said. “There hasn’t been anything close.”

In an exclusive poll carried out for The Guardian, Corporate Research Associates asked those polled how important, if at all, were the allegations of fraud and bribery associated with the provincial immigration program, in terms of influencing how the voter intended to vote in the coming election.

About 27 per cent said the allegations were critically important.

Another 34 per cent said they were important, but not critical.

About 18 per cent said they were not very important while another 17 per cent said they were not at all important.

Four per cent said they didn’t know or would not answer.

Mills said what is interesting is what happens when those numbers are broke down by party lines.

About 53 per cent of Conservatives said the allegations of fraud and bribery were critically important in terms of influencing their vote in the upcoming election.

Meanwhile, only eight per said of Liberals found the allegations critically important.

“In Conservative territory, it’s a lot more critically important than in what I would call pure Liberal territory,” he said.

In mid-September, the federal government

called in the RCMP to investigate allegations of

fraud and bribery in the immigration program.

The federal Citizenship and Immigration Department referred the case to the Mounties after it received information from three former provincial bureaucrats, one of which alleged that a would-be immigrant gave an Island bureaucrat cash-stuffed envelopes to have their application fast-tracked.

The RCMP has not decided yet whether it will launch an investigation.

Mills said there were other issues which resonated more with voters than PNP. He will outline what those issues were in The Guardian on Friday.

“(PNP) caused some people to rethink their voting patterns. It may have narrowed the gap but at this point not sufficient enough to make a difference in the outcome of the election.”

Comments

  • Username
    Too Bad
    - September 30, 2011 at 11:34:39

    It really is a shame the Tories didn't do a better job legislating this program from the get go. The way Olive presented it really couldn't have worked out any better for the Liberals. This woman knows nothing about how to run a campaign, let alone a province. Here's to a 24-3 Liberal knockout, with Olive not being one of the three. Best case scenario for ALL Islanders.

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    • Username
      yeah
      - October 2, 2011 at 00:18:30

      Yeah, those bad Tories that made Ghiz and crew rush through hundreds of millions of PNP$. Then the Tories made them give the money to Liberal friends, including government employees! Yeah, I'm votin' red 'cause the Tories didn't put in rules to prevent Liberal corruption.

  • Username
    not a matter for a poll
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:59:40

    This is no longer a matter for polls, thankfully; it is a matter for the RCMP.

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  • Username
    Karma
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:59:19

    Same old story. The Guardian is at it again. Trying to set up a Liberal election and embarassing itself in the process.

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  • Username
    Sylvia
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:46:05

    The people in power, not just the politicians, but the people who are big frogs in this little puddle do not want PNP disclosure. They know as long as Ghiz is in this isn't going to happen. I am so disgusted with Ghiz government, never voted for them 4 years ago and never will vote for them. I knew it was going to be a disaster. I don't know why people who voted for them couldn't see that. I have never been so disgusted with any government in my lifetime.

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    Gerry
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:45:36

    The only reason the PNP is a bigger issue for Conservatives versus Liberals is because the Conservatives are not arrogant and unassuming. As for the recent "Guardian" poll, who actually puts any stock in these polls? I doubt very much if LIberal taxpayers (who did not benefit from the PNP scandal) take this PNP fiasco lightly.

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  • Username
    PNPLIberalPorkbarrelling
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:41:27

    "PNP bigger issue for Conservatives than Liberals."..well YES....The Liberals are the ones who benefited most from it......$200 million dollars distributed to senior party members and bureaucrats based on how close you were to the powers that be.....If I had a couple of units of PNP ,I would avoid making it an issue also...Silence is Golden!! ..they are hoping islanders will forget about it....that's not going to happen

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  • Username
    what does don mills know
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:41:09

    I wonder if don mills is a tad bit liberal? Every poll he has shows the liberals winning... Wait. They were supposed to win in NB, right? Wrong. People, especially you young voters, get out and VOTE! Its our responsibility and right as free Canadians to elect honest, and integral people to WORK FOR US! Have your say on October 3rd.

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  • Username
    Censorship
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:15:04

    This has to be censored....

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  • Username
    Monday
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:12:20

    Surprise Surprise.The Liberal way,the Robert Way was to deny with hide and seek agenda.They made millions.Do you really think they want an investigation????A conservative Gov. would have an immediate inquiry.They shiver at this fact.Let,s get the truth and put this pnp to rest once and forall.A National Embarasment.

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  • Username
    salacious
    - September 29, 2011 at 20:08:04

    The Guardian obviously has a different definition of salacious than Webster's or is that just another way to slant the story? Wouldn't the RCMP at least have to investigate when allegations of wrong doing are made? I mean, after all Ghiz said he would allow it, unless he changed his mind.

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    Joe Blow
    - September 29, 2011 at 14:15:27

    For me, its all about honesty and integrity. I have no intentions of voting for a party that steals PNP money and then lies about it to cover it up. If Ghiz wants my vote, he'll produce a list of people who got PNP money and admit they made a mistake. But all this lying and dis-honesty is forcing me to vote for any other party but the Liberals. Its time that we had a government for ALL ISLANDERS instead of a party that throws money at people and businesses that DO NOT need it. Islanders are sick of seeing the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Fairness for all islanders is all I'm asking for....and a little bit of intergrity.

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    • Username
      Read with open mind
      - September 29, 2011 at 20:29:00

      The RCMP have not decided yet whether it will launch an investigation. Reason why????Because when at least one of these women made these unsubstantiated claims, there was no evidence. Now they came forward at election time, with more unbelievable accusations that they themselves say they can NOT prove or back up!!!!!!!!!Olive Crane had the last 3 years to have an investigation launched. Even the stupidest of people can't believe that the timing had nothing to do with the election. Let me spell it out for you"DIRTY POLITICS.BULLY STRATEGY." I will not vote PC ever again if the best they can do is Olive Crane.

    • Username
      TO JOE BLOW
      - September 29, 2011 at 20:13:47

      Good Luck on getting a little bit of integrity from Liberals. Everyone, including themselves know about their corruption. The Rank and File will do anything to advance their dirty practices, including fraud, theft, and outright lying. No matter what Liberal pollsters, journalists, and TV shows try to shove down to us, they all can be proven WRONG.

  • Username
    voter
    - September 29, 2011 at 14:07:12

    the pollsters are wrong AGAIN

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  • Username
    meanwhile back in Borden....
    - September 29, 2011 at 13:34:01

    A FULL investigation would put this whole mess to rest; other than for the wealthy Islanders who filled their own pockets with this "LIBERAL CORUPTION" (rest would be difficult for them, or maybe not). Mean while back in Borden; we can all view the "WAVES" that Tax Payers forked millions over for instead of having our $$$'s support the Education and Health Departments that so need attention from our tax dollars. It's time for this "Gentle Island" of ours to create some waves of its own and shake some sense into the people we vote in. It's taken this little Island 125 years to get to a debt of 1.5 billion and the past 4 years for the current govenment to add another 408 million to the Provincial Debt! Do the math on that and try to make sense of it; I simply can't!

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  • Username
    Ann
    - September 29, 2011 at 11:44:57

    There so many MLAs and Legal Firms on PEI who are involved in PNP program abuse, that it is unlikely they will allow anyone to dig into the mess. Anyone who has a hand in this mess will do anything to stall investigation. I wonder why RCMP hasn't started the investigation yet...

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