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Victoria Park closing one lane

Victoria Park closing one lane

Victoria Park closing one lane

Published on May 9th, 2008
Published on June 15th, 2010
Nigel Armstrong

The city is closing down one lane of the Victoria Park perimeter road this summer to create a bike path, pending a legal opinion that it can do so without a public meeting.
Charlottetown City Council held a special open meeting on the bicycle path plans Thursday but no one from the public attended, other than The Guardian.
Sue Hendricken, manager of the city's parks and recreation department, presented council with recommendations from a report looking at encouraging "active transportation" in the whole of the city.
One recommendation was to create a lane in Victoria Park for self-propelled transportation such as bicycles and roller blades.

Topics :
Confederation Trail , Victoria Park , Charlottetown

The city is closing down one lane of the Victoria Park perimeter road this summer to create a bike path, pending a legal opinion that it can do so without a public meeting.
Charlottetown City Council held a special open meeting on the bicycle path plans Thursday but no one from the public attended, other than The Guardian.
Sue Hendricken, manager of the city's parks and recreation department, presented council with recommendations from a report looking at encouraging "active transportation" in the whole of the city.
One recommendation was to create a lane in Victoria Park for self-propelled transportation such as bicycles and roller blades.

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Cars will be allowed to travel on the outside lane next to the boardwalk. That will mean that vehicles will only travel west to east, from the pool to Fanningbank.
The inside lane will be reserved for bicycles and rollerblades and other self-propelled transport. The inside lane will itself be split in two with a painted traffic line on the pavement, setting aside opposing lanes for two-way bicycle traffic.
Where there is no median, such as the centre road to the tennis courts or the playground and pool area, the division between the car lane and bicycle path will be marked with concrete flower planters.
Vehicles wanting to turn into the Kiwanis canteen or the tennis courts will be required to yield to bicycles and others using the inside lane.
"This temporary closure will be a pilot project to establish the level of use of the inside lane by the cycling and wheeling public," said Hendricken. "If at the end of the two or three months we don't find that it is being used all that much then we can just go back to business as usual. There is no harm done."
Council decided to change the traffic flow staring July 1 and running until the end of the September.
Mayor Clifford Lee asked if a public meeting is required to take the road closure action. It was decided by council to make inquires of that issue and if yes, a meeting will be called and if no, the closure will go ahead starting July 1.
Councilor after councillor spoke in favour until it came to Stu MacFadyen.
"You people don't know how many people go to that park in cars who are not able to go anywhere else," said MacFadyen. "Their whole life they have been there. I have seen people there for over 50 years, the same people.
"They are there just because they love the park. It's a quiet spot. I know that we are going to have a lot of seniors that are not going to like this decision and I am one of them."
He and councillor Peter McCloskey were the only two to vote against the lane closure.
Other parts of the active transportation study presented by Hendricken included a decision to look at closing one lane of Fitzroy street to make it a cycling lane in the future.
Immediate action not requiring a vote from council include putting bike racks in the parkades, putting up signs to show bike routes leading to the Confederation Trail and a host of small promotional actions to encourage biking.
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  • Username
    goodIdea
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:43:02

    This is a great idea. Trying to bike anywhere in charlottetown is a death wish. Motorists don't share the road one bit, you're lucky if you don't get hit. With the amount of unhealthy eating, heart disease and obesity these days, it won't hurt a few people to bike instead of drive. Just because someone would rather bike than drive doesn't mean they don't pay taxes to have the roads fixed as well. Just because you don't get your way, doesn't mean you don't have to sulk. There are plenty of roads in charlottetown to drive down, only so many to bike down. One more isn't going to hurt. Be nice & share the road:)

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    Jan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:42:32

    Why can't they just build a cycling lane next to the boardwalk and leave the driving lanes alone? I know my mother is going to be peeved. She's 80 and always drives to the park from the city centre for a view of the harbour before heading home after running errands in the summer. The other approach is too out of the way in her mind and she would probably stop driving through the park altogether!

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    Dan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:42:08

    THANK-YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL! The City of Charlottetown needs to be applauded for reducing the size of the environmental footprint around Victoria Park. The next agenda item: Metered municipal water to a) curb water usage b) generate revenues for green projects/health initiatives within the city, such as additional bicycle paths, more tree planting, accessible paths to promote physical activity for everyone.

    Dan Kunic

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  • Username
    oh really
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:41:56

    Hey there ''Thanks Alot''...

    It seems that the most intelligent use of gasoline by you would be to sniff it. It might just kill off the remaining 2 brain cells you have left. Then Darwin's plan will be complete.

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    Ryan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:41:21

    Um.... Winter? Was this not an option. Or let people use the boardwalk for roller blading and cycling. I've lived in PEI for 22 years and I've never seen any instance where there's been so much foot traffic that it couldn't accommodate both bikes and walkers.
    Also, as Just a Canuck stated. There are many bike paths in the woods.

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    BOB
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:39:34

    Raise the as tax so cyclist can have more space . taxes are too high now ,but seeing cyclists are a minority ,pay no gas tax,get in the way, most obey the rules of the road.,WHY won't be such a great idea? next thing you know they'll Ron for this too.

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    Wonderfull
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:37:03

    This is a great dicision! Hopefully the city will follow up with police patrols, through the park, as the noise from motor bikes can be deafening, also the speeding through the park is bad! There should be one place where we can go and walk and run and bike in peace. Without putting up with this traffic! We are regular users of the park and hopefully this will put a damper on all the unnesserary traffic. If not were not opposed to closing two lanes as an option! Great NEWS!!!

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    Michael
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:36:00

    Good job! I will bring my young fella's bike when we come over and we will put that to good use. Way to progress!

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    Gordon
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:30:33

    Closing the park roadway is ridiculous. Now there is a paved lane for bikes and skaters from Government pond to the cannons alongside the roadway in front of government house. Paving a lane on the cross road to Brighton road which is closed to through traffic will give the cycleists a pathway without interfering with auto traffic.

    Closing the inner lane at government house will force the motor traffic across government road, which is too narrow now for two way traffic and out busy brighton brighton road to enter the park

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    Dixie
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:30:00

    If they close a lane... will it make it harder for some when they are scouting during the late evening hours. Hmmmm

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    Mystery
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:22:24

    This is a great idea. It's so beautiful down at Victoria Park right now, and by the sounds of it; it can only get better. I'm glad the city is trying to focus on turning that area more green instead of twisting it up more to meet our vehicles needs. It would be awesome if they also re-vamp the existing trails in the woods~ like what Parks did with Rainbow Valley.

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    Ilovemycar
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:22:01

    I think this is a stupid idea. We can't only think of the young people here. I know lots of our seniors who would go for a drive through the park. Now it's one-way only, which is going to create all kinds of traffic headaches, kill the business at the Kiwanis canteen, and make it hard to get to the tennis courts. Can't the bicyclist go somewhere else. Why doesn't the almighty city put bicycle lanes down University Ave? It won't because it's too expensive. But they'll pick on Victoria Park because it's cheap to do... and then they can say they are doing something. Ban the bikes, stop this foolish 'we all have to be Green' and keep the city working.

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  • Username
    bad idea
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:21:35

    Cyclists tend to blame motorists for cycling accidents, and rarely consider that the problem may lie from within.

    This idea will cause turning and crossing conflicts for cyclists and motorists; thus encouraging cyclists and motorists to drive in an unsafe fashion.

    How many injuries/deaths is it going to take for the Province to realize that this is a bad idea?

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    cycle fan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:21:27

    As a tax payer I have the right to use the park too and I choose to use it on by bike .The road is in such bad shape it needs to be closed to repair anyway so adding the path is not as big an issue .
    The accident waiting to happen is when cars try to pass a bike on the narow sections .
    Tax gas more then if cyclist can't use the same roads let those who drive pay for what they drive on .

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    J
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:19:21

    A Beliver from Sometimes: If you read the entire article you would see that, in fact, Fitzroy St is next! Remember to read the entire article before getting too excited.

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    Corey
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:18:49

    This has to be the sadest display of people that have nothing better to do but b*tch and complain...

    I enjoy reading the comments, as , no matter what the topic is or the reasoning behind any decision being made OR the option for people to voice their concerns and influence some change...they sit, do nothing , and what for the articles to come out a jump all over it...
    Last time I checked, there was no cover charge for a City Council public meeting . IF you have a problem with something, and there is an avenue to voice your concerns, and you do not jump at this opportunity...shut up, and deal with it...you have lost your right to complain...

    As for the plan to shut one lane down...what is it gonna hurt? Besides, with the price of gas, who can afford to go for a drive ...

    Let the mud slinging begin....

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  • Username
    Moronic
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:16:12

    This is utterly moronic. I am an avid cyclist and I still wouldn't approve of this.

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    Al
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:15:32

    Your English is tragic.

    With luck (yours) , your children will bicycle away. Far away

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    Leisure cyclist
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:10:11

    This is a great idea, I am originally from PEI. Now living in the Fredericton/ Oromocto area we have 85km of biking trails with in the city, however we do share them with pedestrians but they are wide enough to accommidate both.
    I have biked within Charlottetown and it is difficult to go anywhere but on the streets. You can't bike on the boardwalk, as you may hit a pedestrian. Biking on the road in VP is hard also as it is confined.
    Charlottetown should continue to improve the recreational activities. Why shouldnt a cyclist, rollerblader, runner etc. be able to go all around the waterfront and even over to Stratford, there is so much potential within the city.
    It may get those people off the couch and live a healthier lifestyle.

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    My 2 Cents
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:08:09

    My turn!!!

    Close down BOTH lanes. Make the entire area GREEN! Park your car by the cannons and -- prepare yourself for this one --- WALK to get your ice cream, your exercise at the ball diamonds or tennis courts !
    Imagine my gaul!!!
    Surely people can park a block away and walk to where they're going.
    Enough people walk during OHW and Concert Nights !

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    Just a canuck
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:06:48

    Agreed, Stupid idea,

    An accident waiting too happen.

    There are plenty of trails through the park as it is now, great trails, designate one of them through the park as a bike trail.

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    Dick
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:04:53

    This is a very stupid idea!!! There are many other places they could make a biking path around Victoria Park....they don't have to be so cheap and take away one of the lanes the cars drive on. Besides, bicycles drive on the roads everywhere else in town, why do they need their own path at Victoria Park? If they get to have their own path down there, then there should be a rule put in place that keeps them off the streets where the cars drive. The real hazard is trying to drive down the street when you have someone in front of you in the middle of the street with a bicycle. They are slow, they have no protection, they have no turn signals and they are not a motor vehicle.....so what are they doing driving in the middle of the street? The traffic lanes should be meant or cars and only cars. Bicycles should be limited to sidwalks and the shoulder of the road.

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    Biker
    - June 21st, 2010 at 20:02:02

    It's wonderful news that Council voted to trial this idea. The Boardwalk is not big or quiet enough to accomodate bikes and rollerblades. I can't wait to bike along the lane with my family. I understand that people like to drive through the park, I myself do, but this pilot is not affecting that, it's only affecting which way you can drive. We should be applauding this type of action by Council. It is encouraging those who can, to be more active. Excellent.

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  • Username
    Scott
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:59:52

    To Corey from NS: I agree with you. I read posted comments here frequently. You just can't beat it for entertainment. Sad and funny at the same time.

    I will say this about all the people who are complaining about one lane being closed in Victoria Park. What's the big deal? Unless you are planning to drive through the park, do a U-turn at the end of the boulevard and go back through again, what differance if one lane is closed for cyclists, roller-bladers, road repairs or unicorns crossing? You drive through once and keep going on your merry way.

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  • Username
    idiot
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:56:33

    It seems everyone is full of opinions, why didn'y you all go to the meeting and express your concerns there. Instead of b#tching and complaining from your chair!

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    Susan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:55:41

    Get Rid of the Road for cars completly. Half the people driving it are only looking at the women jogging with nothing else to do. The other half have nothing better to do, why would youw ant to drive up and down the park. It's a park. Get out and walk, loose some weight. Lazy Islanders.
    The park should be more focused on families. Put in some bbq pits and picnic tables where the road is now. You would find more people having family events if it was setup to accomodate them.

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  • Username
    Alice
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:53:57

    I am thrilled to learn of this summer's trial closure of one lane of Victoria Park to vehicular traffic. This is a safety and an environmental issue, and will also encourage more physical activity.

    Just the other night I was on one of my first bike rides of the season through the Park, and there was a large van very close behind me that finally passed me in a burst of speed as I squeezed as close as I could to the curb. Many people do not feel safe riding their bikes on the Victoria Park roadway, and it only gets more scary as there are more vehicles and bikes sharing the road in the summer.

    This way there will be a lane for the drivers, the boardwalk for the walkers and a lane for cyclists and roller bladers. It is a win-win-win situation.

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    A Beliver
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:53:42

    Why not get a legal opinion first. It seems to me that one of the taxes I pay when purchasing fuel for my vehicle is for the maintenance of roads. I would persume that includes all roads within Victoria Park. And just what taxes do bicycle owners pay for the maintanance of these same roads. I know, I know bikes have every right to be on the roads. But does this give the Province or City the authority to slow and impede traffic. What is wrong with bikes using the Confederation Trail where we know there is no motorized traffic. City Council is making a bad decision here. Which street is next? I hear Kent street is next!!!

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    Jan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:52:37

    It's a great start . We need more places that cyclists can feel safe riding around the city. Next we need places where we can secure our bikes as we do business in the Downtown core.

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    intobed
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:50:06

    If Fitzroy Street is closed to one lane, it had better be the center one! There are so many vehicles parked in the lanes with the blinkers and four way flashers going while the drivers / passengers have dashed into a store or coffee shop, that one lane will not be sustainable. The whole street should be closed, or parking on one side prohibited along with one lane of traffic.

    As for Victoria Park - closing one lane is great! We need more safe biking areas, and this is a start.

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    J
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:47:59

    This is a great idea. Having an open lane for bikes, rollerblades and skateboards will encourage more people to get out there and do active and healthy things in the summer.

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    I.C.
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:46:32

    Come on people...the outside lane will be readily accessible for parking and viewing the harbour.
    Many parks across Canada close lanes on a temporary basis to allow for other activities like cycling, rollerblading, and little kids learning to ride their bikes.

    Let's not be cranky and learn to share, okay? Sharing is special!

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  • Username
    Kyoto
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:45:57

    It's about time. This was a recommendation of the Parks & REc Master Plan! Great idea!

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    Jan
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:45:10

    If the city was more bicycle friendly it would be faster to get from point a to point b on bike. Also if more people used bikes the city would be be more enjoyable in the summer months.

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    frank
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:40:13

    Just because someone drives a bicycle doesn't mean they don't also drive a car. I think this is a great idea. We should be encouraging people to become more active. I think this will have a minimal impact on the traffic down at Victoria Park. There is still one lane that will be open, so people can take a leisurely drive down there still. But now there will be a dedicated and safe lane for bicyclists and roller bladers. It's time to stop thinking about our cars, and start thinking of other forms of transportation like bicycles a bit.

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    Healthy
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:38:57

    EXCELLENT IDEA. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO.

    ONE WAY FOR CARS IS PLENTY.

    PEOPLE NEED ROOM TO.

    KUDOS TO CITY FOR MAKING A HEALTHY CHOICE!

    MY FAITH IS SOMEWHAT RESTORED.

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    WIDE BELLY
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:37:28

    This is a great idea! I cycle all the time and to be able to ride around the park without some moron in a car impatient because he can't get by me on the narrow roadway will be a blessing. The speed limit around the park is 25 kms, but many drivers go a lot faster. As to seniors where is the problem. The outside lane is still open to cars and the parking spaces are still there and they can still get their ice cream at the dairy bar.
    There ought to be more bike lanes throughout the city. People complain all the time about the price of gas, but how many stop driving and ride a bike? Not many, but more might if there more bike lanes. Trying to ride a bike in this town is dangerous because many drivers take delight in making life dangerous for cyclists not to mention the fact that some of the worst and most stupid drivers populate Charlottetown.

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    Marc
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:36:03

    Stupid. There is hardly anyone that bikes at Victoria Park anyway. Most of them walk on the boardwalk.

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    herb
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:35:48

    It's about time. Finally a place to rollerblade in Ch'town. Trails and boardwalks are not an option. For those who drive cars, you still get the waterside lane. What's the big deal? Some of you have to drive an extra km to get around the park? Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.

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    stupid
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:35:43

    very stupid idea if you ask me. Do they even see the amount of traffic that goes through that park during peak times? Shutting it down to one lane is not only going to be a mess but is also very unnecessary. Sure, take away the lanes for the cars to add for the bikes. Wise choice........NOT.

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    Thanks
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:35:32

    Great......as a motor vehicle driver, this is another place I'll have to avoid because there will be too many cyclists around. I wouldn't mind it AT ALL if they would keep to themselves instead of approaching my vehicle, asking my if I have a lot of gas, if I'm rich, or asking me if I like polluting the air? Then telling me to turn off my vehicle. I pay outrageously prices for gas, so I'm gonna use it where I want to.

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    Hope there is Foresight
    - June 21st, 2010 at 19:34:45

    With little Victoria Park trying to wear many hats, it would appear we need additional green space in our City. It seems to be a good idea for Upton Farm on the other end of town to be left natural for walkers and bikes, etc., as with all the building going on,it will eventually be the center of town.

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