• Article
  • Print
  • Send to a friend
  • Comment (1)
  •  

Military Blog Site - with Robby McRobb Blog

Afghan prisoner torture claims

The stories from Ottawa and the Afghan Prisoner hearings, to me are another waste of Government spending. The $ $ $ wasted on yet another committee would be far better spent on our Troops their families and for the bereavement packages awarded to a wife, husband, mother or father. As well as our walking wounded whether physical injuries or injuries to the mind. We should be far more aware and constructive towards our own.

I read letters and blogs in many forms of the media and the net. People write in that the prisoners ( people that kill our soldiers, afghan nationals and children in the most cowardly of ways should be mollycoddled). Well in this Bloggers opinion the rules are quite clear all prisoners are to be turned over to the Afghan authorities then our duty is done. As far as I am aware NATO's mandate is to provide training, provincial reconstruction and unfortunately combat. All of the tasks are dangerous to the NATO troops. We are supposed to train army, police and correctional staff to our standards they run their country not us. Therefore the welfare of enemy combatants leaves our juristriction at the handover.

Afghan trooper on guard at local prison.

Former Afghan MP Malalai Joya told reporters in Ottawa on Thursday that Richard Colvin's testimony about the torture of Afghan detainees is accurate. (Rodrigo Abd/Associated Press)

Canadian diplomat Richard Colvin's claim that detainees transferred by Canadians to Afghan prisons were likely tortured is true and an open secret in her country, a former Afghan MP said in Ottawa on Thursday.

Colvin, who was posted in Afghanistan from 2006 to 2007, gave explosive testimony last week before a Commons' committee, alleging that all prisoners handed over by Canadian soldiers to Afghan authorities were likely subsequently abused and that government officials were well aware of the problem.

He also said many who had been arrested were innocent people.( Isn't everyone innocent in jail

Malalai Joya, a human rights activist who was suspended from the Afghan parliament in 2007 for openly criticizing officials, told reporters on Thursday that Colvin is correct in his assessment.

What he has been saying is what I've heard from my people, she said.

Many of the victims are women and children detainees who have been raped, she said. It's not new for our people. ( Sad but true )

Canada's former chief of defence staff, Rick Hillier, slammed Colvin's testimony on Wednesday, calling it ludicrous.

We detained, under violent actions, people trying to kill our sons and daughters, who had in some cases done that, been successful at it, and were continuing to do it, Hillier said.

Hillier said they may have detained the occasional farmer, but that they were almost inevitably immediately let go.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay also questioned the credibility of the allegations earlier this week. Hillier and Conservative officials denied Colvin's assertion that he reported prisoner abuses as early as 2006.

Joya said diplomats are often in denial after issues of abuse or corruption are brought to light.

He exposed, she said of Colvin. And I hope [more is exposed].

Joya, who has been touring Canada to speak about Afghanistan and to promote her book, A Woman Among Warlords, said the international military occupation in her country has made conditions worse.

She said her people are squashed by forces that include tribal warlords, Taliban insurgents, foreign military and a Karzai government she compared with a mafia organization.

Democracy will never come by war we need an invasion of schools, economy, hospitals, and streets. We need these kind of helping hands.

Joya also offered condolences to the parents of Canadian soldiers killed while serving in Afghanistan.

Both sides of the story, I much prefer General Hilliers tedtimony and Defence Minister MacKays comments than a career external affairs flack.

Remember Everyone Deployed

Nil Sine Labore

Robby

Comments

  • Username
    A Vereran
    - June 29, 2010 at 08:51:03

    Robby ... In your blog, Joya said Democracy will never come by war we need an invasion of schools, economy, hospitals, and streets. We need these kind of helping hands. br Isn't this our primary role there? br We aren't there as invaders, but We do have to protect ourselves from an invisible, non-uniformed enemy. The Taliban (and Al Queda) will say and do absolutely anything to discredit or harm the Infidels (infidels being anyone that doesn't want and believe what they want and believe). br If a Taliban was caught harming or killing innocents , that very same Taliban would lie and implicate the innocents so the innocents were also taken prisoner. But for what purpose? br These innocents because they are taken prisoner, like Taliban, would learn to hate and fear the authorities and eventually become Taliban. A very successful tactic (called psychological warfare, I believe) on the Taliban's part. br If a Taliban is willing to blow him/her self to bits, somehow, I don't think telling lies is above them. br Do I deny or refuse to believe that torture takes place at the hands of Afgan authourities? No ... but nor do I deny or believe that the situation is as bad as what's being claimed. br I do believe that if we, as well as the Americans, pulled out as the bleeding hearts want us to do, then we wouldn't be party to sending prisoners to be tortured. We would however be party to the death, destruction and results that would befall Afghanistan after we all leave. br I've done some research (considerable, I think) on this Colvin person, and a picture is beginning to form for me. What I'm seeing puts me in mind of certain Scout Leaders, Teachers, Clergy, who are well known, respected, and admired ... then when what's been going on behind the scenes comes to light, their friends and associates are saying, Oh no, I can't believe that ...

    Submit a Comment

Submit a Comment

Submit a Comment

This form is NOT used for emailing the article to a friend. Please use the "Send to a friend" link at the top of the page for that purpose.

The Guardian is not responsible for posted comments. Please be polite and confine your comments to the subject of the posted story. If you have an account, please sign on to it..

(we keep all emails private)
Agreement

We ask that users remain courteous. You may not post insulting, discriminatory or inappropriate content, which may be removed at our discretion. We are not responsible for user content and opinions. Use of this site as well as content submission & ownership are governed by our Conditions of Use and Privacy Policy.

Member organizations should be non-profit in nature, and promote legal activities. Any organization found promoting illegal activities or commercial products or services will be deleted from the site.

I agree with these conditions.

Notice
The management of this site indicates that it is not liable for persons, organizations and / or organizations to register in order to promote and make themselves known. Moreover, the managers of this site should not be held responsible for errors or other errors that slip inside information recorded under this heading.

Advertising

Expert bloggers

Ride for Heart
Blogger
Heart and Stroke Foundation
Sore buns . . . happy heart!
[Sponsored]

More bloggers here

Newsletter

Please enter your email to receive our free newsletter

Subscribe to news alerts
loading...

The Guardian Twitter

Advertising